Ethiopian singer Neway Debebe received a silent treatment on Saturday at a wedding in Washington DC.
There were others singers, including Efrem Tamiru, who performed at the wedding. They were treated normally and politely. In Neway Debebe’s case, apparently most of the guests did not approve his recent cozy relationship with the Woyanne ruling junta in Ethiopia.
The big wedding party thrown by Virginia insurance agent Shewit Woldemichael and bride Aster was attended by hundreds of people.
Ethiopians are increasingily using social rejection against collaborators of the Woyanne ruling junta as a form of protest and a way expressing their disapproval of those who collaborate with Woyanne. It is a warning to others that if you have to do business in Ethiopia, do it quietly without being used by the ruling junta for its propaganda campaign.
After publicly opposing Woyanne for a long time, Neway has angered the Ethiopian community by traveling to Ethiopia and appear on Woyanne-controlled TV and radio stations.
It’s not too late for Neway to appologize, as Mahmoud Ahmed did, and return to the people who have supported him and made him a successful singer.
Meanwhile, Ethiopians in the Washington DC area have kicked Woyanne-controlled ETV off the air this week. The cable company RCN has removed the program after receiving complaints from several Ethiopians that ETV is being used as a weapon of repression by the genocidal regime in Ethiopia.
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What Neway needs to know is that he is not any diffirent than any Ethiopian who is subjugated. Please tell me what is the difference between Mohamud and Neway? And you are talking to Gigi the singer. You might say singers just should sing. Well, we often do some thing else. And we are people just like any body any ways.
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September 7th, 2010 at 9:15 PM
Good job Elias, we have to use any means available to us to expose the dictator where ever they are.
A lot of people criticized you last time for exposing the HODAMS (Samuel’s anniversary and Mimi restaurant) I couldn’t have time then to comment. When you want to cut big trunk tree first you start cutting branches not from the tree itself then it will be easier to cut the tree from the root. Our straggle for democracy, rule of law and good governance should be in all aspect and means.
We need more dedicated people like you to let people of Ethiopian know what is going on by their name. Ethiopian journalists played bigger role than any politician in the past and present by exposing the tyrant while sacrificing their life and their love once .In my opinion we didn’t give enough recognitions to our true journalists.
God save Ethiopia from day light hyenas
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September 7th, 2010 at 9:55 PM
Woyane hodams must be listed to know where we should not go. There must be a a website that list the bad boys of woyane so that people know where we should go.
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September 7th, 2010 at 11:19 PM
How would appearing on ETV make one a supporter of TPLF?
I sometimes think Elias, you are a an agent in disguise. I bet you there is something really weird going on in your camp.
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September 7th, 2010 at 11:37 PM
Dear all,
Please respect other propels’ choice, it does not matter which side
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September 8th, 2010 at 12:06 AM
why pick on Neway the groom also is a woyanne check the guests from Ethiopia
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September 8th, 2010 at 12:47 AM
Neway you are Weyne. You think that we forget what you did? You bow to blood suckers…
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September 8th, 2010 at 12:55 AM
Elias you are doing nice keep it up man!we have to expose the weyane sapporter and hodams singers .
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September 8th, 2010 at 2:35 AM
Elias I am beginning to see your level of intelligence…seems it’s much lower than I expected it…..you are always telling us about Melese and the current udemocratic state of the country, how opposition memebers are treated etc but I see you are employing the same tactics which you are denouncing. You don’t respect other people’s opinions like dictators and want everybody to follow and praise you all the way. If you have a problem with the political attitude or viw of a person, just try to persuade him so that he will follow your way; that’s the democratic way of handling differeneces as far as democracy is concerned. Don’t hate the person hate the thought. Please I beg of you please stop dissiminating hatred among Ethiopians by being a tool of EPLF and dictator Issayas.
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September 8th, 2010 at 2:58 AM
There is a saying in Germany that goes like: “Every nation has a government that it deserves.” When I see our attitude of dealing with our political situation, I usually come to a conclusion that confirms the above saying. How can we be free from tyranny, dictatorship and oppression if we are indirectly doing the same? If our main emblem of political struggle is concentrated upon prosecuting, mobbing and blaming individuals, then we are unfortunately far from the real political objectives. Today this “if you are not with us, you are against us” mentality is becoming so typical for us. If we keep on following this shallow route of individual defamation, we will always end up having governments we deserve.
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September 8th, 2010 at 4:57 AM
What about Efrem tamiru? He is also colablator with Woyanne. Almost all singer have connection with Woyanne. I don’t understand why we have to pick Neway Dedebe only.
I don’t blame the singers, as they are illiterate they don’t understand the suffering of the people.
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September 8th, 2010 at 5:41 AM
We have to confront anything when it comes about woyanne. This regime is vicious by nature and who ever support or work with this junta has to be condemned. Great job Elias
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September 8th, 2010 at 6:32 AM
Hello Ellias,
I was used to really appreciate you, but these days you are becoming obsessed with individuals[successful ones]
What is the problem with you. You don’t post my comments, I bet that tells me your way of thinking.
Speaking of Neway, all he did was went to his beloved country to live with the Ethiopians who appreciate him for his talent and for who he is, what is wrong with that.
Back home people accepted him despite his political affiliations, I am not sure though if he supports TPLF. All he is trying to is live his life as a normal singer.
Just because you have access please do not ruin peoples life just because they are doing what ever is pleased them.
Attack the government not poor[not literally speaking] people who are really doing something for their country. They do investment you scare them to post their photo, are you insane?
Libona yistih.
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September 8th, 2010 at 8:53 AM
#5&9,
You cannot be more wrong. How sad, you actually believe what you are saying.
Not only dictator Meles, but all Dictators around the world, including Adolf Hitler couldn’t have stayed in power without their supporters, that have ignored and given a blind eye to human abuse and the gruesome crimes that have been committed on innocent people, because of pure hate and greed. Just like their masters, dictator supporters also lack the ability to feel and understand the agony and the suffering of others. And they cannot identify the difference between cruelty and great leadership. If Meles supporters challenged and questioned Meles when he comes out with evil idea to deny others, their basic human-rights, torture, kill and loot—thousands of our young people around Ethiopia wouldn’t have been gunned down, thousands of our innocent young and old people around Ethiopia wouldn’t have been thrown in jail and killed without a day in court — our fertile land wouldn’t have been given to foreigners… Shame! Shame! on all those who support bloody hand dictator Meles who is responsible for hundreds of thousands innocent Ethiopians deaths.
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September 8th, 2010 at 9:18 AM
good job Eliaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!
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September 8th, 2010 at 9:42 AM
Gigi, this is not about people’s choices. this is either you are with the butchers of Addis who have blood dripping in their hands or you are with the people of Ethiopia. I know Neway. he is the worst ass kisser I have ever seen. We are not saying that he shouldn’t go to Ethiopia and do business, but Neway went little further short of Solomon Tekelagnes humiliating submission to tyrany. Look Ephrem, he does his thing quietly and never been used by weyane junta for their propaganda. However Neway being the attention starved he is, he was cozying with weyane killers. Any one who associates with weyanes who has blood in their hand. Aleqe – Deqeqe!!
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September 8th, 2010 at 9:45 AM
Good job my dear fellow country people, Don’t let the weyannes and their coolaborators in the USA get away with murder. Edena//Sweden
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September 8th, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Gigi
I guess you are one of the HODAMOCH, you look scared…It is good idea that Elias or whoever inform us about everything regarding our country and thoes double faced people. Instead you fucus in our country affair, you are blah blah blah…about Eritrea and Isayas.
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September 8th, 2010 at 11:20 AM
good job elias,
i was at the wedding too, i saw neway and he was so ashmed to appear in public eventhough he finally sung one single song ” YE BELAY LIJ” with a few no of people on the dance floor while a lot of people ignored him. actually he was only at the wedding for less than 30 min then he disappeared since he doesnt want to be challenged. moreover he was facing down to floor all the time that he was at the wedding….shame on neway!
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September 8th, 2010 at 12:59 PM
I don’t expect too much from artists. Afterall, don’t forget the adage, ‘wedesh new getabit negus tamogesy’. For some reason, i can’t take most artists seriously. So, bottom line, we should leave the artists alone and we should focus more on the top scavengers. For e.g. with the birr devalued, I would like to know how it is going to fair the scavengers. So, make it known to every Ethiopian every business plants that weyane owns inside and abroad. Then we can boycott from buying their products. A classic one was the people who refrained from eating at the wedding party in the presence of Lidetu. Embarrassing hodams like Samuel, having lavish party in DC while millions are starving in Ethiopia is also effective. Patriots like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are donating their fortunes to boost the US economy. Ours are on the frenzy to show off their wealth. Very sad.
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September 8th, 2010 at 1:29 PM
Oh guys please leave the singers alone, why should u all waste time? most of our singers are struggling for their own survival/economically/ there is no wuleta, yilugnita or yager guday….for such …..
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September 8th, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Good job exclusive journalist Elias, I salute you from the bottom of my heart for your fantastic job in tracking down Woyane cadres where ever and when ever they are getting ready to host wedding parties or other similar events across the world investing money of the poor Ethiopians (last impoverished nation on the planet).
You know, you just brought the idea to the attention of the readers then a number of frustrated and concerned citizens are commenting sharply.
But a few who queued with Woyane to do business are uncomfortable with. Carry on your fantastic job.
Death for Woyane and its supporters.
Ambasel (wolleyewu)
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September 8th, 2010 at 1:41 PM
I think when we fight woyane we have to fight to death all its ramifications, supporters and Hodam boot lickers like the transgendered solomon and others who sold out their conscience for a dime. The struggle with woyane is an all round one applying every means including hatchet as our struggle is not confined only in political struggle because woyanne in un equivocal terms is home brewed BITTER ENEMY in the fifth column.Were they, our forefathers,not right in fighting, first and foremost, those Bandas bowed to Italians who sold their people for LIre. Is there as such a marked difference between woyane and Italian fascists. Except that woyane is a domestic enemy and The Italians are foreign plunderers. But both share the same goal i.e. dismantling and vanish Ethiopia and Ethiopians from the world map. So why woyane sympathizers ,supporters and darlings try to disparage and undermine by way of misconstrue the struggle as if focused only on individuals? But deliberately tend to forget that individuals are part of the whole make up of woyane’s evil machination.Such excuses by no means unacceptable as our struggle is merely to save Ethiopia and ultimately ensure our existence. Thus the struggle and the war on all fronts shall continue until woyane and its hench men will inevitably dumped into the dust bin of history.
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September 8th, 2010 at 1:54 PM
We have to fight all woyanes hench men and boot-lickers with any means possible.Such low life Azmaries like Solomon, Neway, and the likes who make bussiness and bent on glorying and falsely painting the woyanes diabolic image as saint. Such Azmaries who sold out their conscience for a dime are tantamount to committing a crime against the poor Ethiopian people.Therefore the Ethiopian people have to single out these Hodam azmaries and should take serious social measure by distancing itself from such little heyenas.Because our struggle believes that individuals are part of the whole of woyanes genocidal instrument.Those who opted for woyane have to be treated like our #1 enemy woyane. Enemy is Enemy. one who surrendered to enemy is Banda. Banda and ASHOKSHAKE have to be the first to be eliminated if we want come out victorious over woyane.
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September 8th, 2010 at 2:29 PM
i am wondering how tplf/eprdf has more supporters than we can admit, which could mean it may not be as bad as we think or its better than the alternatives. who would have thought that people like neway, efrem and some of the famous musicians and soccer players who ran for dear life during derg time are now back in ethiopia and some even became its sympathisers at the expense of being targeted and threatened by elias and his followers. i know i didnt.
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September 8th, 2010 at 3:43 PM
what if you really don’t know who the woyanes are except Meles and Seyuom? what ever that is any ways I just hope we don’t end up asking each others ID soon like a police on each other.
How the hake do you know if some body is a ehadeeg or not at this point? I’m sure this people are not 5 or 6.
And don’t you people think it is better to change woyane’s mind
than any kind of war.
We just have to convince them on their wrong’s and may be they will change. And every body is trying that any ways. One can say that they know they are wrong. Ok but they got to know it is wrong they need to correct them selves until admitting that they wore wrong and fix it or go away from power.
And we need to learn from that too. And let’s not forget the country belongs to them as well just like it belongs to any of us.
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September 8th, 2010 at 3:46 PM
Neway Debebe has exposed himself as an opportunist of the worst kind. What he’s doing amounts to open collaboration with the enemy. Perhaps it is time to stop buying his records!
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September 8th, 2010 at 3:54 PM
Please guys stop painting TILASHET to artists and investors alike who go to Ethiopia simply because it is their country and has to contribute something.
It is by far better to contribute something than complaining sitting abroad.
Do you guys implying no one has to go to Ethiopia?
I invite you all listen to the new single by SAMVOD, the title of the song is ABYSSINYA
and MELKAM ADDIS AMET
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September 8th, 2010 at 4:54 PM
“#19 melat says:
good job elias,
i was at the wedding too, i saw neway and he was so ashmed to appear in public eventhough he finally sung one single song ” YE BELAY LIJ” ”
#19,
You are at wedding as well. They said it was a weyane weeding. If that is the case your hodam as well. One way or the other you were there with neway.
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September 8th, 2010 at 4:59 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Let us do something, by stopping complaining.
Contribute positively to Ethiopians at home and then ……
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September 8th, 2010 at 5:00 PM
Here’re my 2 cents worth if it passes the “sansur” :)
I think for the likes of Elias, whoever goes to Ethiopia for any reason is a Woyanne. I also believe the basic reality that Ethiopia is our country has been forgotten by the diaspora. Meshem, Negam, Kefam, Delam, an Ethiopian should not even be questioned why he traveled/moved to Ethiopia…After all it’s what we call home….Protesting not to go back is a personal choice, as it holds true for those who choose the opposite. P.S. the fact Neway no longer supports the diaspora politics does not necessarily make him a woyanne supporter.
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September 8th, 2010 at 5:11 PM
About time we Ethiopians do something here in the Diaspora. Guess what though, there has been as ER mentioned mass immigration of Weyanes to the U.S and the rest of the West and even other countries so that they can influence the diaspora, they can spy and report to Weyane and control the power the diaspora has to change course in Ethiopia. If these Weyanes are found and as Elias does we must have investigators from every corner of the world to study these people and what they could to hurt and weaken the Diaspora in order to strengthen Weyane’s rule. We must do these investigations and if they are found doing anything against the diaspora we can make their lives hell. In addition we must convince them to support Ethiopia not ethnicity or Weyane. I think positive approach is better.
The other issue is that people who go to Ethiopia now becoming pro Weyane. We have to know certainly, if an Ethiopian goes back to Ethiopia especially if they are famous, and if they have to go because of urgency and certain issues. Let us learn that these people have no choice but abide by Weyane’s rule in order to go see their beloved country. They have to do that other wise Weyane will just do something to hurt their family and themselves. That being said, if they do it for cowardice act and want just to support Weyane for their own greed and selfish reason then we should oppose. The other issue is that, it is clear that those celebrities who oppose Weyane once and now support for sure just pretend to be supportive. Many Ethiopians just go along with Weyane but their heart is not Weyane. So we must becareful not to oppose everybody but instead, convince them Ethiopia than Weyane.
Great for Ethiopians who are on FB. That is Weyane’s night mare, the power of diaspora and that is why many spies are now left Ethiopia to control the diaspora.
Long live Ethiopia
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September 8th, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Here, something is missing from our way of thinking about democracy. Respecting someone’s opinion/choice doesn’t mean individuals/companies selling ammunition to tyranny are not collaborator but they are doing a business.
In the first palace we can’t talk about democracy where there is tyranny however where there is a democracy & rule of law we can talk about deferent opinion/choice because it can be tolerated.
No body can says that doing business in Ethiopia by it salve is supporting the regime
(Unless it is for crumb), millions doing business (at low level because they can’t compete with the Woyane) without collaborating, the point here is do what ever you want to do but don’t prolong the suffering of our people by being means of propaganda.
God save Ethiopia from day light hyenas
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September 8th, 2010 at 9:41 PM
Anonymous @ 14
Like they say there are two sides to a story….and in your case…The truth (actual fact) side and the Elias side. I see here that he has twisted your head and had you brainwashed that what you mumbling as a comment doesn’t even make sense….just a bunch of inconsistent thoughts…..I especially enjoyed the last line “Meles who is responsible for hundreds of thousands innocent Ethiopians deaths”…I wonder where you get this great info….oops silly me I forgot…from the elite intelligence unit of ER….hahahaha.Anyway let me tell you this brother; have patience and respect to others and their opinions; hatred bears more hatred nothing else. I see also you are just one of them confused folks by Elisas. Remember brother Elias is a man with a plan. Don’t be his tool because you are indirectly becoming the tool of his masters whom we all know. Wake up brother.
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September 9th, 2010 at 12:37 AM
If you Hate Neway you Hate Ethiopia.
I was in Ethiopia when he made the interview on ETV it was the local Addis Abebea Tv .
She Asked Him: have you seen any change in the country and he said yes The Airport, lots of new buildings….
What do you expect him to say he went to Ethiopia for recording not for poletical fight..
They would have put him in jail by theway all of you who sounded heros here would have done worse who knows if you were in Neway shose.
Don’t be rush to judge, he his our brother and true Ethiopian.
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September 9th, 2010 at 6:08 AM
To Newaye,people are not as important as air ports and building and roads are.when he was asked what changes he sees,he replied to the interviewer what sees in his naked eyes not what people want him to see and feel.If there is no feeling,there is no truth in what he sees.Why did not he reply to the interviewer,there is a change from bad to worse because more and more people are becomeing dependent on donation,more and more youths are jobless,and more and more people are forced to leave their country?
If he can not see the reality,hwo can he see what is ahead of him in the future?
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September 9th, 2010 at 6:45 AM
hi elias you are doing always good for the ppl of ethioia. God bless you
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September 9th, 2010 at 8:36 AM
any one and every one directly or indirectly who benefits from Woyane is also WOYANE.it is not against any individual person it is rather for the survival of a nation call Ethiopia.therefore we should ask the Question this person contributing to the destruction of our country?and if he/sh is part of the distraction they should be neutralise before they can do more damage to our country including GIGI.
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September 9th, 2010 at 10:55 AM
#34,
My opinion is based on facts. I get my information from many sources including ER. There are a few things I don’t agree with Elias, but mostly, I do agree and support what Elias is doing. I admire Elias’s boldness and bravery.
It is because of people like you, Dictators stay in power and able to abuse, loot, torture and kill innocent people. The world might know only, the 200 plus people that were gunned down in Addis during the 2005 election, but Meles along his cousin Esayas have been killing Ethiopians way before Meles has taken power. Many Ethiopians have been missing, and some bodies have been found thrown in the bushes around Ethiopia. Recently, a mass fresh grave was found in Addis, while they were digging to expand prison and no investigation was performed … because they knew Woyanes have caused the death of those Ethiopians. In my home town alone, the local people had found seven bodies that was thrown behind one of the local churches, during the election of 2005. The local people knew these people were killed somewhere and thrown like a piece of trash. Again, in my own home town, one of my relative that was a body guard for one of CUD members was murdered along with his friend while they were watching TV in the evening, they broke the door and ambushed both of them and disappeared. Many people also have been killed and left in the streets. If there is a data somewhere that shows all the people that have been killed and disappeared out of the earth—in Addis Ababa, Afar, Harer, Gambela, Gondar, Gojame, Wolega, Wollo, Ogaden, Somalia you name it… the innocent people that have been killed and thrown in prison–the number is staggering.
#34, you can not help it, it takes conscience, compassion, kindness, sympathy to understand the suffering of others. One life is too many to loose, let alone thousands. You are one brainwashed dude, that admires the cold blooded killer Meles. You are one of those fools, that can not identify between great leadership and a looter cold-hearted killer. Just like you, many people in Germany also admired and cheered Adolf Hitler, when he was sending over 6 million innocent people to gas chambers. Shame on all people like you who sides with a world known killer Meles.
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September 9th, 2010 at 10:58 AM
I have never been Neway’s, fan but I strongly condemn the way he is being treated for appearing on ETV. Whoever appeared on the Woyane-controlled TV should be judged by what they said on the show. If he just appeared and entertain the oppressed people of Ethiopia, he should even be rewarded. There is only one way these artists can talk to their audience. But, they should also be brave to use the media and express their solidarity with the people even though it is obvious that the junta will censor it.
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September 9th, 2010 at 12:49 PM
oh oh oh guys, please wake up !!!!
Did Neway said something bad to the Ethiopian people or praise the weyane regime ? If he did so, ok he deserves the punishment. If you accused him just because he went back home and appear on ETV for some apolitical interviews, I think that it is time to stop this kind of cheap information.
Elias, if you want to be a true editor of a magazine, your starting point should the INFORMATION not the hearsay.
Be clear or Disappear !!!!!
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September 9th, 2010 at 12:55 PM
GIGI@26
are u really the singer GIGI? if u are from u songs i used to listen to you sound a very enlightened and Hailey convince self actualized person.
but from Ur comment i see u are not.but having said that Haw do u change a leopard spot? the answer is u cant the same Way U can not change WOYANE by asking them to change. the only thing Woyane understand is Force. thy came by force the will be replaced by force. i think 20 years is not enough for u to understand WOYANE GIGI.
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September 9th, 2010 at 1:03 PM
@34
why dont u go tell 80 Million Ethiopian Meles is a good Leader see what kind of response u get. why dont u go to any political prison in Ethiopia tel the pathetic story see what they will do to you….why dont u go tell that to people who safer in the hand of Woyane see what they will do to you….not the messenger.
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September 9th, 2010 at 1:31 PM
#14 this is for you
Wikipedia says
A dictatorship is defined as an autocratic form of government in which the government is ruled by an individual, the dictator. It has three possible meanings:
1. A Roman dictator was the incumbent of a political office of the Roman Republic. Roman dictators were allocated absolute power during times of emergency. Their power was originally neither arbitrary nor unaccountable, being subject to law and requiring retrospective justification. There were no such dictatorships after the beginning of the 2nd century BC, and later dictators such as Sulla and the Roman Emperors exercised power much more personally and arbitrarily.
2. A government controlled by one person or a small group of people. In this form of government the power rests with one person. Such power is often obtained forcibly. A dictator usually takes away much of people’s freedom.
3. In contemporary usage, dictatorship refers to an autocratic form of absolute rule by leadership unrestricted by law, constitutions, or other social and political factors within the state.
In the twentieth century and early twenty-first century, hereditary dictatorship remained a relatively common phenomenon.
For some scholars, dictatorship is a form of government that has the power to govern without consent of those being governed (similar to authoritarianism), while totalitarianism describes a state that regulates nearly every aspect of public and private behavior of the people. In other words, dictatorship concerns the source of the governing power (where the power comes from) and totalitarianism concerns the scope of the governing power (what is the government). In this sense, dictatorship (government without people’s consent) is a contrast to democracy (government whose power comes from people) and totalitarianism (government controls every aspect of people’s life) opposes pluralism (government allows multiple lifestyles and opinions). Though the definitions of the terms differ, they are related in reality as most of the dictatorship states tend to show totalitarian characteristics. When governments’ power does not come from the people, their power is not limited and tend to expand their scope of power to control every aspect of people’s life.
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September 9th, 2010 at 3:04 PM
#14 this is for you too
Wikipedia about Tyrant:
Historical forms
In ancient Greece, tyrants were influential opportunists that came to power by securing the support of different factions of a deme. The word “tyrannos” then carried no ethical censure; it simply referred to anyone, good or bad, who obtained executive power in a polis by unconventional means. Support for the tyrants came from the growing middle class and from the peasants who had no land or were in debt to the wealthy land owners. It is true that they had no legal right to rule, but the people preferred them over kings or the aristocracy. The Greek tyrants stayed in power by using mercenary soldiers from outside of their respective city-state.
Cypselus, the first tyrant of Corinth in the 7th century BC, managed to bequeath his position to his son, Periander. Tyrants seldom succeeded in establishing an untroubled line of succession. In Athens, the inhabitants first gave the title to Peisistratus in 560 BC, followed by his sons, and with the subsequent growth of Athenian democracy, the title “tyrant” took on its familiar negative connotations. The murder of the tyrant Hipparchus by Aristogeiton and Harmodios in Athens in 514 BC marked the beginning of the so-called “cult of the tyrannicides” (i.e., of killers of tyrants). Contempt for tyranny characterised this cult movement. The attitude became especially prevalent in Athens after 508 BC, when Cleisthenes reformed the political system so that it resembled demokratia (ancient participant democracy as opposed to the modern representative democracy).
The Thirty Tyrants whom the Spartans imposed on a defeated Attica in 404 BC would not be classified as tyrants in the usual sense and were in effect an oligarchy.
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September 9th, 2010 at 3:10 PM
the two Wikipedia postings were for #34 not #14 so sorry.
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September 9th, 2010 at 3:16 PM
# 39
Thanks for the constructive arguemnt you have tried to present here and I respect you and your opinion. But having said that I got to say this; your arguement is based on bunches of lies and deceptions forwarded to you by Elias and the likes. I wonder from where you get the info regarding the mass grave in Addis…I was laughing my ass off when I read about that…I was in Addis recently and at least I am much closer to info like that than the elite and the much talked and hyped about ‘ER intelligence’….by the way I agree on your points that there are many problems in the current government to say the least…but what I am saying to you, brother, is that the Elias’s way of alienating your fellow brothers and sisters just because they expressed their opinion is not the right path of settling down disputes….by the way I can tell you some horrific actual facts that I heard and confirmed from the local ( during the days when I was a worker of one of the international aid agencies in Eth)about the mesmerizing and terrible things that are being done by organizations that your ‘great’ elias supports…I remember I was crying like a baby when I heard how those ‘liberators’ have done from witnesses and victims…so believe me again brother there indeed are two sides to a story…one more thing I forgot to warn you…you said ‘Meles along his cousin Esayas have been killing Ethiopians’…brother this remark will create a big problem with ur relationship with ER and Elias…no dog would like his master to be touched or abused by others…and like I said before, Elias is a man with a plan…a plan to destruct and divide Ethiopia…and be at the mercy of EPLF…wake up brother.
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September 9th, 2010 at 3:40 PM
Guys
Why you worry about people like Neway and other Azmaris these people are just laymans, you have to know their back ground don’t surprise if they drive U turn now and then.
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September 9th, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Ato Elias,
You have not yet posted my comment.About the story posted on the Ethiomedia “Yarbegnoch Ginbar kifil 2″. Would you?
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September 9th, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Elias thinks Ethiopians are only the Ethiopians living in US.
So, who cares if few ppl had treated him silently? He is still beloved by millions back at home…….period.
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September 9th, 2010 at 4:36 PM
We know the interview was not conducted at the air port.The interviewer asked Newaye what changes has he been seeing.Newaye must have been walking around or driving around the the neighbourhoods in the city;as the question raised to him had been directed as an open ended question;it meanse,it must have been answered in depth;not on the surface,it must have included all he had observed in relation to the existeed rality of the situations in Ethiopia.
What if the poor,the imprisioned,the homeless asked him what he had been observed or had been seen in their existed situation as an observer? Would he tell them that nothing or something?
What is important to him? Seeing changes in air ports and buldings or seein observable changes in the poors and the homelss life?
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September 9th, 2010 at 5:16 PM
If we hate each other how are we going to fight the enemy? Are we already doing our enemy assignments if we are at each other’s throat.
UNITY= STRENGTH
Fight start by uniting against the common enemy Weyane/TPLF.
Don’t lose your eye of the BALL
PUBLIC enemy No 1 TPLF.
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September 9th, 2010 at 7:08 PM
#47
so in other word you are telling as you a DOG your master is Melese Satnawe.i think you are the one and the hodam who is bringing division among Ethiopians not Elias so get lost.
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September 10th, 2010 at 12:56 AM
#47,
It is fun and game for you to the point of laughing your ass off. But for far too many Ethiopian parents, brothers, sisters and close relatives of the victims of Meles, they are living in a never ending nightmares. Obviously, you are one of those hard-core blind supporters, that have sold your soul to the mighty dollar to go here and there to blame the messenger, instead of the very man that is responsible for the death of too many Ethiopians, and the very man that has thrown way too many Ethiopians in jail and that has given and sold our land to foreigners. The Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International have been keeping records of the human abuses in Ethiopia under dictator Meles. And the Woyane govt. and the likes of you have been blaming the organization for speaking out against Human Rights in Ethiopia. I am pretty sure, Woyanes like you try their hardest to make sure the crimes they have committed kept hidden, but the whole truth will come out in time. While Meles, his wife and his acquaintances enjoying life and becoming multimillionaires at the expense of 76 million Ethiopian Tax Payers…. according to UN 15 million Ethiopians depend on Food Aid, and the other 12 million Ethiopians are expected to die of starvation. Which record are you proud of the most.. .Building cheap buildings and roads — Your ethnic group controlling the whole Ethiopian government and loot — Giving our fertile land to Sudan and other foreign countries —Throwing innocent people in prison — Torturing people — Killing innocent people — Taking Freedom of Speech and Press — and Letting 20 t0 25 million Ethiopians starve to death. Let me repeat again, you have the same mentality of those who lacked conscience and stood on the side of Adolf Hitler when he was slaughtering innocent people. I wish you nothing bad, but I pray to God, to give you conscience, so you can see and understand the suffering of others for the sake of humanity.
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September 10th, 2010 at 1:00 PM
Elias why are you letting this impost-er Anonymous @47 using the other Anonymous @54 name please dont let him confuse people as Anonymous.. please if he want to post any comment he souled use other name.
thanks Elias
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September 10th, 2010 at 2:20 PM
# 53
Number 39 I really have respect for you because you ,at least, have tried to lay down the facts though again I feel it’s far more exagerated mainly blamed up on by yours truely ER.
But # 53 your arguement is simply lame. I don’t have words to express it how low down it is. Don’t act like the other african nationals that have been colonized who think the white man knows everything. Do u expect me to blieve that Amnesty intl. and the so called ‘human rights’ organizations are reporting solely based on facts and without infulence? come on brother give me a break.
Let’s take the instance of Zimbabwe. Do you think Zimbabwe’s democracy is poorer than some countries to the level that all that hype was about it by Amnesty and the likes? absolutely NO. And your ‘arguement’ about land I believe shows your level of intelligence. I believe people like you are easy prey for the likes of Elias and their Ethiopian destruction target.
# 39 you seem to be a reasonable and educated person and please don’t use that mind of you for destruction. Like I said we all agree that the current gov’t has got so many many bad policies and had made some bad decisions but the way of opposing it is not in Elias way of doing business because if we do that we are helping not Ethiopians but the damned and ruthless EPLF.
# 53 please read and analyze…that’s all I can say to you brother.
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September 10th, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Yes! What deos it take for Neway Debebe to appologize from the bottome of his heart to the public for betraying Ethiopians?
Honesty,responsibility,and most of all,it needs a gut to shake off the shame that he is drenched in and come out dry and clean.That is what we are talking about.
Eyes,if they can’t see,they are not eyes.Neway Debebe,if he can’t appologize,he is Solomon Tekaligne.What does it take for Neway Debebe to remove the Solomon Tekaligne from himself? It is true that Mohamud Ahmed had been collaborating with enemeis of Ethiopia and Ethiopians for too long causing significant damage on the security and terretorial integrity of Ethiopia and the men and women who were fighting against the enemy tooth and nail.Few individuals,like Solomon Tekaligne stepped out of the right track and fell in the hands of the tyrany,Meles Zinawi and became disgusting hodams and simply became the propagands mouth of Zinawi’s regime.
Neway Debebe is carried way by selfish desire and has become unfaithful to Ethiopians; now in Zinawians’ camp,being assigned a role,Neway Debebe has begun to appear on tyrany’s propaganda media talking back insults to Ethiopians.Yes,indeed;Ethiopians have taken immediate actions.”Fight us with zinawi’s propaganda machines.but we will definitely defeat all of you.” Now, Neway Debebe unable to face social rejection from all directions,which Solomon Tekaligne and the likes were unable,there were not choices left for him but to roam around in the neighbourhoods being brenched in shame.
The Shame on Neway Debebe is sticky it won’t go away by scrabing it with a knife.But soicial rejection is quite powerful than a knife in a hand and more lethal than a flying bullet.
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September 10th, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Chaka Zulu,
I am assuming that your #56 comment meant @#54. Regardless, you seem to have sympathy for dictator Meles and you try to justify Meles’ hateful actions. My friend, you might argue with the actual numbers of Ethiopians, Somalis and Eritreans that have been killed by Woyanes — But, even taking one innocent person’s life is one too many, let alone hundreds of thousands. Any ways, I wish you well.
I wish all Peace Loving Ethiopians and all EPPF fighter my best wishes for Ethiopian New Year! Inqutatash! May the coming year be the end of tyrant Meles and his criminal friends.
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September 10th, 2010 at 7:53 PM
Gigi, please shut the f* up, you don’t know what you are talking about!!! you are entirely removed from the country and don’t know the day-to-day life of those poor people in Ethiopia. Now, you say it’s possible to change the way weyane thinks, really? you are delusional!!
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June 23rd, 2011 at 10:03 AM