Comments on: Birtukan's choice: serve Woyanne or stand with the people? http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092 Ethiopian News & Opinion Journal Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:20:41 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Shegnew http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-52735 Shegnew Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:58:08 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-52735 Hi everybody! We are chatting for Ethiopia in our individual ways. Now, what is our target? The ruling party. What makes the problem the ruling party our target? Its way of ruling the country in a destructive way be it called democratic or whatever. Then, how come we talk of any other party negatively which is not standing against our cause having the major target down there. UDJ is not neither standing against Ginbot 7, nor OLF nor Arbegnoch Ginbar nor EPRP nor ... UDJ is trying its best against the ruling party to get it down! Now there have been so many complaints about that the opposition parties have collectively been unable to focus on the target and organize their struggle for the common cause. The evidence is also here on this platform that some of us are throwing words against UDJ (and at times against its leader personally). But does it help the struggle (your struggle)? I doubt; it may rather cause you to lose a backing effort for your cause. What makes some of you so mad over the peaceful struggle? What makes you believe your choice (armed struggle shall be the recipe towards the future Ethiopia) is the best ever existed for Ethiopia’s current problem? Who told you such a stand is democratic (as we are longing to that cause)? If we can’t be patient to one another at least to a common goal (our goal is peaceful and democratic Ethiopia), then we will remain to be a failed state. When we talk of others we must be conscious of human nature towards freedom. You chose armed struggle. Fine as far as you are not against the common cause, free Ethiopia from EPRDF which is ruling the country in a destructive way. Armed struggle was around during 2005. No opposition parties were concerned of them because of the common cause, apart from the ruling regime which finds they were against its interest. The regime understands when the opposition parties were saying they were standing in support of peaceful struggle which means officially, by implication, they were against armed struggle. However, it was obvious fro the ruling party that they (the opposition parties) were happy at the back in support of any means against the regime. But the opposition parties were mentioning this when only necessary or they were challenged to talk about it. Which means they never tried to shout aloud about the armed struggle. What is now surprising me is that there is so much madness about the UDJ with Ginbot 7’s supporters. I also frankly support Ginbot 7 as well as UDJ. That is me. What makes UDJ so bitterly your enemy as if it is your number one target? Ginbot 7 is not UDJ’s business as far as Gibot 7 is not standing against the cause of UDJ! So, what makes UDJ the Ginbot 7’s supporters business as far as UDJ’s is not standing against the cause of Ginbot 7’s? Hay, why don’t you spend your effort as to how to push your struggle along with Ginbot 7’s time table apart from feeling so much concerned about UDJ line? If UDJ is wrong time proves that. As much is also the case to Ginbot 7. My hope is both parties cause is one and two extreme options leave no cavity to the target. Do you please understand that? Both Gonbot 7’s and UDJ’s cause are same! Is that not true? Some of us are not contributing any to both parties except we support them lip service. And I am sure some of us who are complaining about UDJ in seemingly support of Ginbot 7 are not contributing any to Ginbot 7’s cause concretely. And don’t forget, that I said some of us. How come I dare to tell you not to support Ginbot 7. Could I also tell you in stead to support UDJ? I can’t dare doing that as I have not even been able to tell the supporters of woyane not to. So I have some brothers supporting woyane and I don’t dare to tell them whom to support against the other as far as they know what to and why. So I will have my choice and respect others by simply keeping quite; and when I oppose a party I tell openly the shortcomings of their cause when I disrespect theirs. That is why we do have a common cause about which we may shout – woyane. So, don’t stand against UDJ and others as far as their cause is same as yours and especially as far as their cause is not against yours. Don’t tell them to follow your line which makes you undemocratic. Ginbot 7 announced officially any form of struggle against the ruling party and that is beautiful!!! And among the “any struggle” there is peaceful! If you ask UDJ about armed struggle OFFICIALLY, it definitely has to stand against it. But that does not mean UDJ is against Ginbot 7! This is known to the ruling. How come it is not clear to you! DON’T WE HAVE MIND? Are we mad? Let us accept every form of struggle in everyway!!! And let us know what we are doing is for the betterment of Ethiopia and how and why we do that? Above all let’s understand each other and that makes us one!!! OTHERWISE WE ARE HURTING OUR CAUSE!!! Sincerely yours. Hi everybody!
We are chatting for Ethiopia in our individual ways.
Now, what is our target? The ruling party.
What makes the problem the ruling party our target? Its way of ruling the country in a destructive way be it called democratic or whatever.
Then, how come we talk of any other party negatively which is not standing against our cause having the major target down there. UDJ is not neither standing against Ginbot 7, nor OLF nor Arbegnoch Ginbar nor EPRP nor … UDJ is trying its best against the ruling party to get it down!
Now there have been so many complaints about that the opposition parties have collectively been unable to focus on the target and organize their struggle for the common cause. The evidence is also here on this platform that some of us are throwing words against UDJ (and at times against its leader personally). But does it help the struggle (your struggle)? I doubt; it may rather cause you to lose a backing effort for your cause. What makes some of you so mad over the peaceful struggle? What makes you believe your choice (armed struggle shall be the recipe towards the future Ethiopia) is the best ever existed for Ethiopia’s current problem? Who told you such a stand is democratic (as we are longing to that cause)? If we can’t be patient to one another at least to a common goal (our goal is peaceful and democratic Ethiopia), then we will remain to be a failed state. When we talk of others we must be conscious of human nature towards freedom. You chose armed struggle. Fine as far as you are not against the common cause, free Ethiopia from EPRDF which is ruling the country in a destructive way. Armed struggle was around during 2005. No opposition parties were concerned of them because of the common cause, apart from the ruling regime which finds they were against its interest. The regime understands when the opposition parties were saying they were standing in support of peaceful struggle which means officially, by implication, they were against armed struggle. However, it was obvious fro the ruling party that they (the opposition parties) were happy at the back in support of any means against the regime. But the opposition parties were mentioning this when only necessary or they were challenged to talk about it. Which means they never tried to shout aloud about the armed struggle. What is now surprising me is that there is so much madness about the UDJ with Ginbot 7’s supporters. I also frankly support Ginbot 7 as well as UDJ. That is me. What makes UDJ so bitterly your enemy as if it is your number one target? Ginbot 7 is not UDJ’s business as far as Gibot 7 is not standing against the cause of UDJ! So, what makes UDJ the Ginbot 7’s supporters business as far as UDJ’s is not standing against the cause of Ginbot 7’s? Hay, why don’t you spend your effort as to how to push your struggle along with Ginbot 7’s time table apart from feeling so much concerned about UDJ line? If UDJ is wrong time proves that. As much is also the case to Ginbot 7. My hope is both parties cause is one and two extreme options leave no cavity to the target. Do you please understand that?
Both Gonbot 7’s and UDJ’s cause are same! Is that not true?
Some of us are not contributing any to both parties except we support them lip service. And I am sure some of us who are complaining about UDJ in seemingly support of Ginbot 7 are not contributing any to Ginbot 7’s cause concretely. And don’t forget, that I said some of us. How come I dare to tell you not to support Ginbot 7. Could I also tell you in stead to support UDJ? I can’t dare doing that as I have not even been able to tell the supporters of woyane not to. So I have some brothers supporting woyane and I don’t dare to tell them whom to support against the other as far as they know what to and why. So I will have my choice and respect others by simply keeping quite; and when I oppose a party I tell openly the shortcomings of their cause when I disrespect theirs. That is why we do have a common cause about which we may shout – woyane. So, don’t stand against UDJ and others as far as their cause is same as yours and especially as far as their cause is not against yours. Don’t tell them to follow your line which makes you undemocratic. Ginbot 7 announced officially any form of struggle against the ruling party and that is beautiful!!! And among the “any struggle” there is peaceful!
If you ask UDJ about armed struggle OFFICIALLY, it definitely has to stand against it. But that does not mean UDJ is against Ginbot 7! This is known to the ruling. How come it is not clear to you! DON’T WE HAVE MIND? Are we mad?
Let us accept every form of struggle in everyway!!! And let us know what we are doing is for the betterment of Ethiopia and how and why we do that? Above all let’s understand each other and that makes us one!!!
OTHERWISE WE ARE HURTING OUR CAUSE!!!
Sincerely yours.

]]> By: Terefe Taye http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-52732 Terefe Taye Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:16:24 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-52732 Whatever we will going to build the struggling democracy party now or as before the aim should be one to get freedom for our opressed people full of right to suceed thier own great aim. The aim of full determination and right to do what ever so the people wants to decide by thier oun power. Andthen we all together creat our struggle party to go forwards anytime, any moment without giving the gup of time. but the most shame for the young geneation regrating according to the way to struggle even up to death. Whatever we will going to build the struggling democracy party now or as before the aim should be one to get freedom for our opressed people full of right to suceed thier own great aim. The aim of full determination and right to do what ever so the people wants to decide by thier oun power. Andthen we all together creat our struggle party to go forwards anytime, any moment without giving the gup of time. but the most shame for the young geneation regrating according to the way to struggle even up to death.

]]> By: Haimanot http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-51670 Haimanot Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:18:21 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-51670 Hi there !!! I like "yequaraw lij" comment. It is so thouthful and to the point. Aplifing what woyane wants us to say and to do will not take us to the better. What I think about Birtukan or any other opposition part in Ethiopi is that keep on the struggle. Kepp your eye on weyane than eachother. What is wrong to struggle woyane in the way one feels is right ? Especially,in the very risky enviroment. What is wrong to try to organize people for a certain cause ? Therfoe,please support any struggle that aim at woyane and try to creat a room for mutual understanding of one another. Focusing on differences gives room doubt and disintigration. thanks!! Hi there !!!

I like "yequaraw lij" comment. It is so thouthful and to
the point. Aplifing what woyane wants us to say and to do
will not take us to the better.
What I think about Birtukan or any other opposition part
in Ethiopi is that keep on the struggle. Kepp your eye on weyane than eachother.
What is wrong to struggle woyane in the way one feels is right ? Especially,in the very risky enviroment.
What is wrong to try to organize people for a certain cause ?
Therfoe,please support any struggle that aim at woyane and
try to creat a room for mutual understanding of one another.
Focusing on differences gives room doubt and disintigration.
thanks!!

]]> By: Gashu http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-51652 Gashu Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:48:26 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-51652 EPPF, OLF and ONLF have been out there for decades. BUT WHAT THEY ACHIEVE SO FAR?? NOTHING!! Why was Kinijit so popular in few months time after its creation??? The reason is one and one. NATIONAL AGENDA AND PEACEFUL STRUGGLE. For sure at least 75% of the people back home know little or nothing about EPPF. OLF may be popular in Oromia though it is fading through time and so does ONLF in Ogaden. It is too early to comment on Ginbot7. It is yet to be tested. No matter what small, there is a room for peaceful struggle. But it is dangerous and risky for real opposition groups. If they have the courage to do so we shall honor them rather than shamefully try to lebel them loyal opposition. We need to understand the pressure and challenge in the peaceful struggle. It is not as simple as sitting in front of computer, making some calls, and posting articles while we are in western countries. By the way Eliay, I apprecialte the person who interviewed you on ETN. He is matured and well seasoned. He tried politelly to help you to come to your conscious. He tried to help you to evaluate by reasoning and justification. You are too emotional. All your had to say is "yemeslegnal" and "endemegebagn", my be you are angry. It seems you have personal problem with weyane like Aregawi (of reporter) with Al Ahmudi. I believe (and so does kinijit) that no long term peace can be brought about by armed struggle but a range of well organised and coordinated peaceful struggle. By the way our problem is not just poletical {though it is determinental). We have problems in the economic and social sectors too.There are a lot of things we can do in these regards besides the peaceful struggle in the poletical erena. We can do some grass root community works to boost the capacity of the people at local levels. Be fair and calm gasu EPPF, OLF and ONLF have been out there for decades. BUT WHAT THEY ACHIEVE SO FAR?? NOTHING!! Why was Kinijit so popular in few months time after its creation??? The reason is one and one. NATIONAL AGENDA AND PEACEFUL STRUGGLE. For sure at least 75% of the people back home know little or nothing about EPPF. OLF may be popular in Oromia though it is fading through time and so does ONLF in Ogaden.

It is too early to comment on Ginbot7. It is yet to be tested.

No matter what small, there is a room for peaceful struggle. But it is dangerous and risky for real opposition groups. If they have the courage to do so we shall honor them rather than shamefully try to lebel them loyal opposition. We need to understand the pressure and challenge in the peaceful struggle. It is not as simple as sitting in front of computer, making some calls, and posting articles while we are in western countries.

By the way Eliay, I apprecialte the person who interviewed you on ETN. He is matured and well seasoned. He tried politelly to help you to come to your conscious. He tried to help you to evaluate by reasoning and justification. You are too emotional. All your had to say is "yemeslegnal" and "endemegebagn", my be you are angry. It seems you have personal problem with weyane like Aregawi (of reporter) with Al Ahmudi.

I believe (and so does kinijit) that no long term peace can be brought about by armed struggle but a range of well organised and coordinated peaceful struggle. By the way our problem is not just poletical {though it is determinental). We have problems in the economic and social sectors too.There are a lot of things we can do in these regards besides the peaceful struggle in the poletical erena. We can do some grass root community works to boost the capacity of the people at local levels.

Be fair and calm
gasu

]]> By: Ras http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-51143 Ras Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:49:56 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-51143 Ethiopian across the board now a day have no hope in Brtukan's party.Because it doesn't bring any change in coming election.So what next waiting? another theatrical election drama? Ethiopian across the board now a day have no hope in Brtukan's party.Because it doesn't bring any change in coming election.So what next waiting? another theatrical election drama?

]]> By: seleshi http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-51123 seleshi Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:09:15 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-51123 good analsisy we have only one thing for woyane power sruggle unless it doesn't work peacefully sruggle!! good analsisy
we have only one thing for woyane power sruggle
unless it doesn't work peacefully sruggle!!

]]> By: yeQera lij http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-51111 yeQera lij Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:34:15 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-51111 It is so amazing to read such kind of fabricated "analysis" that tries to damage UDJ and its leader. It is no wonder that Ethiopians in Diaspora are talking in such authority about a struggle inside the country. It seems that every Ethiopian in Diaspora has the entitlement to talk like a political pundit and want to guide the struggle in Ethiopia. The only thing I want to comment about is that the struggle in Ethiopia, no matter how you call it, will continue. It is a new kind of struggle - a type of struggle unknown and unheard by the Eprp generation. It is a struggle waged by the new generation. If you want join the army of this effective struggle. If you don't want keep on doing what you're doing now. But I can assure that you tactic is not going to work this time. Finally, in so much you portray yourself as a Meles hater, I am really amazed to suggest the method Meles provide to the opposition party leaders in Ethiopia. These were the options Meles told Dr. Berhanu in the aftermath of the 2005 election - "stay away from politics, or leave the country if you can't take one of these jails is your place". But UDJ told Meles a choice that he HAS NOT provided "how about staying inside Ethiopia and work with our people?" That is the UDJ's way. The other alternative!! It is so amazing to read such kind of fabricated "analysis" that tries to damage UDJ and its leader. It is no wonder that Ethiopians in Diaspora are talking in such authority about a struggle inside the country. It seems that every Ethiopian in Diaspora has the entitlement to talk like a political pundit and want to guide the struggle in Ethiopia.

The only thing I want to comment about is that the struggle in Ethiopia, no matter how you call it, will continue. It is a new kind of struggle – a type of struggle unknown and unheard by the Eprp generation. It is a struggle waged by the new generation. If you want join the army of this effective struggle. If you don't want keep on doing what you're doing now. But I can assure that you tactic is not going to work this time.

Finally, in so much you portray yourself as a Meles hater, I am really amazed to suggest the method Meles provide to the opposition party leaders in Ethiopia. These were the options Meles told Dr. Berhanu in the aftermath of the 2005 election – "stay away from politics, or leave the country if you can't take one of these jails is your place". But UDJ told Meles a choice that he HAS NOT provided "how about staying inside Ethiopia and work with our people?" That is the UDJ's way. The other alternative!!

]]> By: Give up http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-51109 Give up Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:19:30 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-51109 YES, WE CAN .YES, WE CAN, I vote for OBAMA even i grow up in US in the past i didn't care to vote, because none of them care for Ethiopia or Africa . I watch OBAMA for two years listen what he said & i said it is time to vote for CHANGE YES, WE Can Ethopians. Woyanne will be history inculding his BANDS. ONE LOVE ONE PEOPLE ONE ETHIOPIA ETHIOPIANS 2010 YES, WE CAN. YES, WE CAN .YES, WE CAN, I vote for OBAMA even i grow up in US in the past i didn't care to vote, because none of them care for Ethiopia or Africa . I watch OBAMA for two years listen what he said & i said it is time to vote for CHANGE YES, WE Can Ethopians. Woyanne will be history inculding his BANDS.

ONE LOVE
ONE PEOPLE
ONE ETHIOPIA
ETHIOPIANS 2010 YES, WE CAN.

]]> By: Binyam http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50632 Binyam Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:40:39 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50632 This is not a news at all,this is a series of fictions by Elias. It is impossible to establish peace and democracy in Ethiopia in any other way than a peaceful struggle. No one seems to understand what a peaceful struggle (None violence)is,it is not just UDJ led public meeting, demonstration, and election it is far beyond these.Peaceful struggle is building confidence and trust within the supporters of the incumbent,in other words taking over the support base of Woyane.It is working together with all forces that are at stake:OLF,ONLF,OFDM,MEDREK,UEDF,EDP MEDHIN,AEUP,ONC, Woyane it self and so on.This might be unusual to many of us,but peace and democracy can only be born with in the womb of the dectatorial regime step by step.It seems difficult only because we donot have politicaly genious leaders,our intellectuals usualy run abroad and keep crying from there. We must not ignore realities like;Millions of people knowingly or blindly suport Woyane,OLF and other political organizations ,Millions hate UDJ,AEUP.We not only blame the people in power but the mass support behind them.This mass support helped Dergue to promot Red Terror,this mass support helping Woyane to widespred ethnic hate, No opposition party is prepared enough to face or resolve post victory chalenges,all the focus is only on geting rid of the Woyane,but Ethiopia needs stability and peace in order to build democracy. No one seems to ask what will EPRDF,and OLF do after is the overthrow of Woyane by force? Who is going to defend the nation,who is going to maintain law and order? If we are not able to wage a peacful struggle we will not be able to lead the country. Removing Woyane must be done with out the cost of blood,infrastructural and social damage;must not cause a new wave of revenge,and destabiliztion;must not creat anew line of enemies and sessetion movements. This is not a news at all,this is a series of fictions by Elias.
It is impossible to establish peace and democracy in Ethiopia in any other way than a peaceful struggle.
No one seems to understand what a peaceful struggle (None violence)is,it is not just UDJ led public meeting, demonstration, and election it is far beyond these.Peaceful struggle is building confidence and trust within the supporters of the incumbent,in other words taking over the support base of Woyane.It is working together with all forces that are at stake:OLF,ONLF,OFDM,MEDREK,UEDF,EDP MEDHIN,AEUP,ONC, Woyane it self and so on.This might be unusual to many of us,but peace and democracy can only be born with in the womb of the dectatorial regime step by step.It seems difficult only because we donot have politicaly genious leaders,our intellectuals usualy run abroad and keep crying from there.
We must not ignore realities like;Millions of people knowingly or blindly suport Woyane,OLF and other political organizations ,Millions hate UDJ,AEUP.We not only blame the people in power but the mass support behind them.This mass support helped Dergue to promot Red Terror,this mass support helping Woyane to widespred ethnic hate,
No opposition party is prepared enough to face or resolve post victory chalenges,all the focus is only on geting rid of the Woyane,but Ethiopia needs stability and peace in order to build democracy.
No one seems to ask what will EPRDF,and OLF do after is the overthrow of Woyane by force?
Who is going to defend the nation,who is going to maintain law and order?
If we are not able to wage a peacful struggle we will not be able to lead the country.
Removing Woyane must be done with out the cost of blood,infrastructural and social damage;must not cause a new wave of revenge,and destabiliztion;must not creat anew line of enemies and sessetion movements.

]]> By: Aden1 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50598 Aden1 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:08:23 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50598 “It would have been a death nail to Woyanne if all the "loyal" opposition in Ethiopia announce that they are no longer able to operate inside the country and cease their political activities at once” ER - One of your suggestive ideal place is stated as Asmara. Well they all might as well move there and empwer Isayas to the tune of a great joyful and cynical laughter and scheme. “Prof. Mesfin and their surrenderist group refer to those who are forced to raise arms as "backwards." ER _ The problem is people like prof. Mesfin degrading one form of struggle and people like Elias labeling the peaceful opposition like UDJP, “surrenderist”. The best suggestion is given by PEACES' POST, "We have seen the power of the Ethiopian people in 2005,if not for our failed leaders handling and lack of long term vision. In science and engineering we know that, there are different ways of doing the same thing correctly..( the Dr. way , the Birtukan way, Elias way, X way ). we don't yet know whose political will be effective and sustainable for the future generation of Ethiopia.." “People are starting to pay attention to the messages of EPPF, OLF, ONLF, TPDM, Ginbot 7 and others who have recognized the right of people to defend themselves and fight for their freedom.” -OLf ad ONLF are secessionist groups and you need to specify what people support their their fight for “freedom” . “When these groups come together and form a transitional government in exile, put their fighters under a unified command, and make a call to the people of Ethiopia to rise up, Woyanne will crumble the same way….” -A call to Ethiopian people? From OLF and ONLF?. And Woyanne crmble?. No there will be open warfare and civilian Ethiopians will pay the prize. “If Barack Obama, a person whom nobody knew just two years ago, can rise up to be leader of the most powerful nation in the world with his message of change, hope and 'yes we can' slogan, why not the leaders of OLF, G7, EPPF, ONLF and other Ethiopian opposition groups come together and liberate Ethiopia?.” -OLF&ONLF have been known as problems to Ethiopia. Ginbot7’s leaders and their pattern of struggle had been known the last 40 years. Not too many people generally know about US presidents until they they run for the position. Simply, it is a childish comparison. “It would have been a death nail to Woyanne if all the "loyal" opposition in Ethiopia announce that they are no longer able to operate inside the country and cease their political activities at once” ER

- One of your suggestive ideal place is stated as Asmara. Well they all might as well move there and empwer Isayas to the tune of a great joyful and cynical laughter and scheme.

“Prof. Mesfin and their surrenderist group refer to those who are forced to raise arms as "backwards." ER

_ The problem is people like prof. Mesfin degrading one form of struggle and people like Elias labeling the peaceful opposition like UDJP, “surrenderist”.

The best suggestion is given by PEACES' POST,

"We have seen the power of the Ethiopian people in 2005,if not for our failed leaders handling and lack of long term vision. In science and engineering we know that, there are different ways of doing the same thing correctly..( the Dr. way , the Birtukan way, Elias way, X way ). we don't yet know whose political will be effective and sustainable for the future generation of Ethiopia.."

“People are starting to pay attention to the messages of EPPF, OLF, ONLF, TPDM, Ginbot 7 and others who have recognized the right of people to defend themselves and fight for their freedom.”

-OLf ad ONLF are secessionist groups and you need to specify what people support their their fight for “freedom” .

“When these groups come together and form a transitional government in exile, put their fighters under a unified command, and make a call to the people of Ethiopia to rise up, Woyanne will crumble the same way….”

-A call to Ethiopian people? From OLF and ONLF?. And Woyanne crmble?. No there will be open warfare and civilian Ethiopians will pay the prize.

“If Barack Obama, a person whom nobody knew just two years ago, can rise up to be leader of the most powerful nation in the world with his message of change, hope and 'yes we can' slogan, why not the leaders of OLF, G7, EPPF, ONLF and other Ethiopian opposition groups come together and liberate Ethiopia?.”

-OLF&ONLF have been known as problems to Ethiopia. Ginbot7’s leaders and their pattern of struggle had been known the last 40 years. Not too many people generally know about US presidents until they they run for the position. Simply, it is a childish comparison.

]]> By: kotebe http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50542 kotebe Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:04:39 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50542 Hello Elias! I read your article or can I say propaganda? to discourage Birtukan from returnining home and wage the peaceful struggle. I can't understand the way you guys think. You live in the west where democracy is practiced every single day but learn nothing out of it. This is as confusing as a fish swimming in the water and not getting wet. Do you think Ethiopians read the things you write on the internet? or are you trying to wage armed strugle hiding 12000 miles away? so much for your armed struggle. I bet you are not going to start shooting from Washington Dc. Hello Elias!

I read your article or can I say propaganda? to discourage Birtukan from returnining home and wage the peaceful struggle. I can't understand the way you guys think. You live in the west where democracy is practiced every single day but learn nothing out of it. This is as confusing as a fish swimming in the water and not getting wet.

Do you think Ethiopians read the things you write on the internet? or are you trying to wage armed strugle hiding 12000 miles away? so much for your armed struggle. I bet you are not going to start shooting from Washington Dc.

]]> By: Tezibt http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50526 Tezibt Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:14:40 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50526 Yes accept the fact and chill. Talk is cheap. How many sons and daughters of Ethiopia are we going to consume. Once Prof. Mesfin said that here in the U.S.A. you demand so much from the struggle in Ethiopia but you can't even contribute money that would be enough to buy a small town house. So the comment above hits bull's eye. A coward should never ask more than what is deserved. Let them become woyanes weapons or what ever, if you can't provide what is demanded, shut up. The Somalis do get support from the Arab world, Eritrea and Somalians in the diaspora. Ours don't have support. You guys are really cruel, selfish, cowards and greedy. Yes accept the fact and chill. Talk is cheap. How many sons and daughters of Ethiopia are we going to consume. Once Prof. Mesfin said that here in the U.S.A. you demand so much from the struggle in Ethiopia but you can't even contribute money that would be enough to buy a small town house. So the comment above hits bull's eye. A coward should never ask more than what is deserved. Let them become woyanes weapons or what ever, if you can't provide what is demanded, shut up. The Somalis do get support from the Arab world, Eritrea and Somalians in the diaspora. Ours don't have support. You guys are really cruel, selfish, cowards and greedy.

]]> By: zenash http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50508 zenash Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:03:51 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50508 this generation Ethio men are cowards. Bertukan, Mesfin w/m and Ledetu etc choose to surrender because there is no real men in the country or outside the country. everyone likes to talk and make speeches. talk won't bring down woyane. the somali fighters are a good example on how small they are and how they are effective chasing TPLF. with a small armament, they harras TPLF and send them in the run. Ethiopians are to scared to use such tactics. because we are cowards. Accept the fact this generation Ethio men are cowards. Bertukan, Mesfin w/m and Ledetu etc choose to surrender because there is no real men in the country or outside the country. everyone likes to talk and make speeches.

talk won't bring down woyane. the somali fighters are a good example on how small they are and how they are effective chasing TPLF. with a small armament, they harras TPLF and send them in the run. Ethiopians are to scared to use such tactics. because we are cowards. Accept the fact

]]> By: peace http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50499 peace Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:59:16 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50499 Dear brother Elias! As usual, your analysis is just based on so many traditional assumptions and personal interest and wishes.. to help your argument!...i still believe that there is nothing we cant do if we believe so and act consistently! We have seen the power of the Ethiopian people in 2005,if not for our failed leaders handling and lack of long term vision. In science and engineering we know that, there are different ways of doing the same thing correctly..( the Dr. way , the Birtukan way, Elias way, X way ). we don't yet know whose political will be effective and sustainable for the future generation of Ethiopia.Considering this, who are you to tell our leaders the way of struggle they follow. Could you tell us your expereince that change the life of single Ethioian so far? You sound as if a real dictator than we have seen so far in our history, even with out any authority. God bless Ethiopia Dear brother Elias!

As usual, your analysis is just based on so many traditional assumptions and personal interest and wishes.. to help your argument!…i still believe that there is nothing we cant do if we believe so and act consistently! We have seen the power of the Ethiopian people in 2005,if not for our failed leaders handling and lack of long term vision. In science and engineering we know that, there are different ways of doing the same thing correctly..( the Dr. way , the Birtukan way, Elias way, X way ). we don't yet know whose political will be effective and sustainable for the future generation of Ethiopia.Considering this, who are you to tell our leaders the way of struggle they follow. Could you tell us your expereince that change the life of single Ethioian so far? You sound as if a real dictator than we have seen so far in our history, even with out any authority.

God bless Ethiopia

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50498 Anonymous Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:45:50 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50498 The author of the article I just read a man with a penetrating understanding of Ethiopian politics and with a deep political insight about what is coming. I think, Burtukan Medeksa, would be ill-advised not to accept wholeheartedly the generous piece of advice bestowed to her right on time. I must state honestly, I have a great admiration and respect for Burtukan. The least I want is thus she to become a loser. The path of an armed struggle is the right path to freedom and liberation in Ethiopia today. I hope this courageous and beautiful Ethiopian lady follows that path which will take her along the road for her to become the first woman President of Ethiopia. I wish her all the best. gtsegezab@yahoo.co.uk The author of the article I just read a man with a penetrating understanding of Ethiopian politics and with a deep political insight about what is coming. I think, Burtukan Medeksa, would be ill-advised not to accept wholeheartedly the generous piece of advice bestowed to her right on time.

I must state honestly, I have a great admiration and respect for Burtukan. The least I want is thus she to become a loser. The path of an armed struggle is the right path to freedom and liberation in Ethiopia today. I hope this courageous and beautiful Ethiopian lady follows that path which will take her along the road for her to become the first woman President of Ethiopia.

I wish her all the best.

gtsegezab@yahoo.co.uk

]]> By: tezibt http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50487 tezibt Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:53:38 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50487 The bad news in this article is Everyone seems to feel Woyane is there to stay. The good news in this article is that Burtukan the great is not a woman of quick fix. Actually, the election after 10 or 15 years seem to be realistic. She is young and she will only be in her mid fourties by then. The other good news is that by then most of this power monger communists will be either gone or in a nursing home; therefore it will be easier to organize and become viable. As long as the hyenas are around we will be dreaming and woyane will be recking the country. Bravo Burtukan. She is the only one who is getting it. All the barking for the last 17 years didn't do much and I am pretty sure it will be the same with these power mongers who have no sympathy for any thing but ego. Somalia will be the chess board for Meles, he is purposely retreating so that he can make his money with Obama too. Most of you need more attention with the American politics. The bad news in this article is Everyone seems to feel Woyane is there to stay. The good news in this article is that Burtukan the great is not a woman of quick fix. Actually, the election after 10 or 15 years seem to be realistic. She is young and she will only be in her mid fourties by then. The other good news is that by then most of this power monger communists will be either gone or in a nursing home; therefore it will be easier to organize and become viable. As long as the hyenas are around we will be dreaming and woyane will be recking the country.
Bravo Burtukan. She is the only one who is getting it. All the barking for the last 17 years didn't do much and I am pretty sure it will be the same with these power mongers who have no sympathy for any thing but ego. Somalia will be the chess board for Meles, he is purposely retreating so that he can make his money with Obama too. Most of you need more attention with the American politics.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50483 Anonymous Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:18:37 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50483 Elias, I really agree with your fundamental view as to how to get rid of terrorist TPLF regime. The only question I ask you is why are you hell bent on attacking other opponents of the terrorist TPLF group? Let them do what they think is the right thing to do. Can we all think the same way as you think or do we have to? Why don't you respect the views of other people who happen to think differently from you? Tessema Elias,

I really agree with your fundamental view as to how to get rid of terrorist TPLF regime. The only question I ask you is why are you hell bent on attacking other opponents of the terrorist TPLF group? Let them do what they think is the right thing to do. Can we all think the same way as you think or do we have to? Why don't you respect the views of other people who happen to think differently from you?
Tessema

]]> By: Meti http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50478 Meti Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:01:17 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50478 i think all politician in Ethiopian needs to open their eyes and see what really the ethiopian need at this point. where are all this people when our brothers and sisters stuggle to eat once a daya? we need any kind of struggle that can take this dictator government out of Ethiopia. i think we should forget about Birtukan and all the other so called opposition leaders, because they abandoned the Ethiopian people when we all stood by them. we cried and shouted to take them out of the jail but what did they give back to the Ethiopian people...NOTHING. i think all politician in Ethiopian needs to open their eyes and see what really the ethiopian need at this point. where are all this people when our brothers and sisters stuggle to eat once a daya? we need any kind of struggle that can take this dictator government out of Ethiopia. i think we should forget about Birtukan and all the other so called opposition leaders, because they abandoned the Ethiopian people when we all stood by them. we cried and shouted to take them out of the jail but what did they give back to the Ethiopian people…NOTHING.

]]> By: Gerami http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50476 Gerami Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:33:00 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50476 Is there a way we can hear from Birtukan or her Party. I don't understand why we don't have leaders who keep thier popularity for more than five or so years. Is it beacuse we don't have true heros? what makes me say this is what has happened after the 2005 election. We all know what happened to once admired and very promising young leader Lidetu. Before we know his side of the story his short political career is destroyed and thrown to the arms of the ruling party. I think Birtukan is next. Atleast this guys has shown the courage to fight the evil at the front of the battle field in Ethiopia. Not on cafes of the west, not on websites and papers of the west. They are the ones who can talk about "yes we can" and "change" not us who sit in comfort and try to destroy them for every little mistake they make. This is a disgusting culture trying to distroy a young woman who spent two years of her young age in perison. Only those who did much more than Birtukan can say bad thing about her and it is hard to find persons who qualify this requirment among website, cafe and paper heros. Let us hope this passes your moderation Is there a way we can hear from Birtukan or her Party. I don't understand why we don't have leaders who keep thier popularity for more than five or so years. Is it beacuse we don't have true heros? what makes me say this is what has happened after the 2005 election. We all know what happened to once admired and very promising young leader Lidetu. Before we know his side of the story his short political career is destroyed and thrown to the arms of the ruling party. I think Birtukan is next. Atleast this guys has shown the courage to fight the evil at the front of the battle field in Ethiopia. Not on cafes of the west, not on websites and papers of the west. They are the ones who can talk about "yes we can" and "change" not us who sit in comfort and try to destroy them for every little mistake they make. This is a disgusting culture trying to distroy a young woman who spent two years of her young age in perison. Only those who did much more than Birtukan can say bad thing about her and it is hard to find persons who qualify this requirment among website, cafe and paper heros.
Let us hope this passes your moderation

]]> By: Michael Haile http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/7092/comment-page-1#comment-50475 Michael Haile Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:13:26 +0000 http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/?p=7092#comment-50475 I like how you have managed from criticizing the leader of the only standing major opposition party to butchering her character. We have all seen the movement outside of Ethiopia in the name of freedom and armed struggle. We have seen the OLF and ONLF for the last three decades push their policies on the mercy of Ethiopians in Ethiopia. Let us be honest, there is no free election. That is not, however, a reason to abandon the woman standing against the mighty regime and fighting for equality and justice. That is real change from the years of insurgency and gun fight that has gained nothing for us. She is not doing it across a border at a comfortable distance with better living standards like many of us. It is critical we support her cause and abandon the idea of arm struggle. Let us not forget how the woyane got to power. The idea of establishing a democratic system through democratic ways is not blindness, but common sense. Even Evil Hitler knew that. If this article is seriously naming Somalia as an example, surely, it has no common sense. I like how you have managed from criticizing the leader of the only standing major opposition party to butchering her character. We have all seen the movement outside of Ethiopia in the name of freedom and armed struggle. We have seen the OLF and ONLF for the last three decades push their policies on the mercy of Ethiopians in Ethiopia. Let us be honest, there is no free election. That is not, however, a reason to abandon the woman standing against the mighty regime and fighting for equality and justice. That is real change from the years of insurgency and gun fight that has gained nothing for us. She is not doing it across a border at a comfortable distance with better living standards like many of us. It is critical we support her cause and abandon the idea of arm struggle. Let us not forget how the woyane got to power. The idea of establishing a democratic system through democratic ways is not blindness, but common sense. Even Evil Hitler knew that. If this article is seriously naming Somalia as an example, surely, it has no common sense.

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