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Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby Aragaw » 06 Jan 2011, 15:35


which alternative should they accept?! Sit in Djibouti and cry


Yes, you have the habit of doing that the past 40 years. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Can you do the crying from Asmara for a change? :lol: :lol: :lol:



Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby AFDist » 06 Jan 2011, 15:43


To simplify it for the idi*ots like Aite Aragaw,
The life in Djibouti is clear, both the Amhara and the Oromo are suffering under Weyane tyranny. The liberation journey from Djibouti to Diredawa (freedom from fascist Weyane) is the common route for both the Amhara and the Oromo forces. So there is nothing which hinder the Tumsa (the alliance) from happening. The smart politicians from both the Amhara and the Oromo camp should support such alliance to get rid of the slavery.

After arriving at Diredawa, they should have either a polity consensus or a public referendum to live together in Diredawa (Ethiopian Union with Oromian Autonomy). Further move to Adama-Finfinne requires that the Oromo forces be stronger and either compell or convince the Amhara. Further move to the Debremariqos-Bahirdar route needs that the Amhara forces be stronger and either compell or convince the Oromo.

Sure is that choosing the alternative of living under slavery in Djibouti for both nations (Amhara and Oromo) is a stupidity par excellence. Only the fools of both nations or the smarts of the ruling fascists do want to keep the satus quo by opposing the all-inclusive alliance (Tumsa) and saboutaging the unity of both camps (Tokkummaa in both the Amhara and the Oromo camp respectively). As far as Oromo nation is concerned, we need the Tumsa to move to Diredawa and we need the Tokkummaa to be stronger and move to Finfinne.



Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby Aragaw » 06 Jan 2011, 17:12


I guess I have to repeat everything in every thread. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Do you blame me for calling you retarded? You DUMB AS*SS. Didn't you read the news? Sometimes you should stop typing and start reading. There is no alliance with Eritrea you Idi*ot. Read what happened below.

the possible Amara-Oromo alliance and the possible cooperation of this alliance with the Eritrean government.



WASHINGTON, DC - 17 members of the Ethiopian People's Patriotic Front (EPPF), including a former EPPF secretary general, have been summarily executed and buried in a mass grave in a remote part of Eritrea, according to a report by EPPF fighters who fled to Ethiopia.

The rebels who had sought Eritrean support in their fight against the government of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi were murdered shortly after the end of a general congress held in February 2010 in rural Eritrea. The report couldn't be verified independently.

Those killed were singled out for raising questions like:

* Eritrea should stop using EPPF fighters as slave laborers
* EPPF should be independent of Eritrean control and supervision
* The killers of former EPPF leaders such asTesfaye Getachew should be brought to justice
* EPPF should be allowed to wage the armed struggle in Ethiopia etc.

The report alleged that Eritrean security official Col. Fistum ordered the killings that were carried out by Major Dawit (Eritrean) and EPPF chairman Me'aza Gettu and his driver, Fekade Chere.

The following are those killed and buried in mass graves in Areena, Tesseney, Eritrea:

1. Adane Mekuannent (former EPPF secretary general, who was very much defiant to Eritrean intervention and control of EPPF).
2. Alemu Melkamu
3. Desse Abera
4. Gashaw Babel
5. Melaku Abera
6. Alemseged Tekhest
7. Fekadu Endalew
8. Shumet Sisay
9. Asmare Zewde
10. Getnet Feseha
11. Tekle Gebru
12. Esubalew Hailu
13. Beshaw Dube
14. Yaregal Asmare
15. Mohamed Molla
16. Adem Getahun
17. Fentahun Alemshet

The source said "Major Dawit and Me'aza Gettu and Fekade Chere" were physically involved in the mass murder of the fighters.

Previous reports abound that Ethiopian rebels in Eritrea were subjected to harsh treatments that they look like walking skeletons whether they were working on Eritrean fields or were being held as prisoners before their disappearances.

Once an adherent of Eritrean solidarity for political change in Ethiopia, Elias Kifle, editor of Ethiopian Review, recently wrote that the number of the once promising EPPF had dwindled to an insignificant 70 "most of whom would never return to Eritrea if they were allowed to leave."

Elias, who had joined EPPF some years back, accused Eritrean security officials of "arbitrarily arresting Ethiopians, blocking reform inside the opposition groups, sabotaging their activities so that they stay weak, turning their members against each other, and robbing funds that are being sent to EPPF from its supporters in the Diaspora."

Ethiomedia maintains a long-standing principle that Ethiopia is caught between two enemies: Meles and Isaias. The two leaders - who look like they are sworn enemies to each other - fought for Eritrean independence from what they called "Ethiopian colonialism." Why should they then help armed Ethiopian groups that would eventually restore Ethiopian sovereignty and territorial integrity - of course including the Red Sea Port of Assab?

Report in Amharic - Must read

The Crisis within EPPF (By Tikur Chaka)



Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby AFDist » 06 Jan 2011, 17:24


Contrary to this stu*pid Weyane cadre, Aite Aragaw, who tries to camouflage as Amhara nationalist, the genuine Amhara nationalists need to be bold and honest in order to liberate the Amhara nation from Tigrean colonization/domination. Their hitherto attempts to forge and lead the “multinational” parties were only detrimental to themselves. Such parties are open for the Tigrean spies to infiltrate easily and to sow a seed of discord so that none of such parties have become strong so far and survived further. A classical example is how the strong CUD has been disintegrated and destroyed by infiltrators within a very short time. That is why Amhara nationalists should take off their mask (the name Ethiopia) and learn to be organized as Amhara, and then honestly forge an alliance with the organizations of the Oromo and with those of the other nations. Only in this honest way, the Amhara democrats can distance themselves from the backward obsolete minded ones hiding behind the name Ethiopia, till now are used as an instrument to save the Tigrean rulers by offering their handshake with the colonists, and by their hyperactive opposition against the opposition as seen among the UDJ factions during the past election campaign. Where are these obsolete minded backwards now? Are they now satisfied with their saving of the Tigrean colonists from the challenge which would have come from the strong opposition, from the Medrek? Why did they make much noise at that time and are now keeping quiet as the colonists seem to be stable to rule further?



Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby Aragaw » 06 Jan 2011, 17:52


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Contrary to this stu*pid Weyane cadre, Aite Aragaw, who tries to camouflage as Amhara nationalist,


Typing, typing and more typing all day long. Don't you get tired? Do something else for a change.Like masturbate. Mechem mist yelehem. :lol: :lol: :lol: Tefram.

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Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby AFDist » 06 Jan 2011, 18:08


The current move of the Amhara democrats and the Oromo liberators, including the forces of other colonized nations in the empire to forge an all-inclusive alliance against the Tigrean fascist rulers, is a nightmare for the cadres of the colonists in the cyber world (like Aite Aragaw) and the real world. They are now talking about the Beddeno massacre of the poor Amhara, accusing OLF as a perpetrator; and they are also singing about the Cellenqo massacre of the Oromo people to curse Minilik of Amhara – the whole maneuver being to hinder the coming together of the Amhara and the Oromo forces. But the Amhara youth now seem to have started to follow the example of Wallelign Mekonnen and to fight for the freedom of their Amhara nation and for the liberation of all the oppressed nations in the present Tigrean empire, instead of wearing T-shirts with a picture of the feudal king H/Sillasie and instead of singing about the “goodness” of the monarchy as they used to do under the leadership of the obsolete feudals in their hitherto “multinational” parties. I think the trend, as seen in the article of Professor Daniel Kinde and as heard in the rhetoric of some Amhara nationalists recently, is encouraging. It is better late than never, so let us, Oromians, now welcome the Amhara nation to the club of the colonized nations in the Horn of Africa.



Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby Aragaw » 06 Jan 2011, 18:13


the whole maneuver being to hinder the coming together of the Amhara and the Oromo forces.


Amara and Oromo are together all the time. It is Ethiopia and OLF who are not together you DUMBASS and will never bee together regardless of who is in power. Kebte.



Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby AFDist » 20 Feb 2011, 08:34


*Last Warning* You repeat this post again, the whole post will be locked and you will never be able to edit it.



Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby AFDist » 26 Mar 2011, 08:38


Why is he still ruling? Why there is not yet a revolution? What about in the future?



Re: Why was it easy for Meles' regime to rule over Ethiopian

Postby AFDist » 01 Apr 2011, 15:54


As far as the Ethiopian empire is concerned, the right step to the right direction now is to rise up in unison, if we want to move from dictatorship to democracy, which is actually possible only in the decolonized nations, who are suffering under dictatorship of the rulers from their own respective nations. Even though I don’t think that liberation through democratization is so effective in empires like Ethiopia, where nations are fighting firstly for collective national liberation and then secondly for individual citizens’ liberty, we can take the unique situation of the Ethiopian empire into consideration and try to find a unique solution, such as a public uprising in unison (revolution)! Here is the necessity of reconciling the difference between the two opposition blocs against Woyane regime: the Amhara pro-integration bloc struggles for only ‘individual liberty’, whereas the Oromo pro-independence bloc fights for both ‘collective liberation and individual liberty’! This suggests that the struggle of the Amhara bloc (for individual liberty) can be considered as part of the struggle of the Oromo bloc (which includes individual liberty to collective liberation). Unless there is a sort of such compromise between these two opposition blocs to cooperate and coordinate their actions against the Woyane fascists, it is very easy for the Woyane to play the divisive political game by balancing the two blocs, beating them turn by turn as it did till now and by further making the two neutralize each other.

Oromo nation is the one who loses nothing, when Woyane loses everything through the possible revolution and especially if both freedom and democracy be realized in that country in the future, whatever the future type of sovereignity as a result will be: independent Oromia, true ethnic Federation or unitary Ethiopia. But, I think an independent Oromia in an integrated Ethiopia (collective national liberation including individual personal liberty) is the possible compromise solution for the hitherto face-off between the pro-independence Oromo forces and the pro-integration Amhara forces, so that they can work together to help the expected revolution erupt and to get rid of the fascist and racist Woyane. As far as the Oromo are concerned, I hope all Oromo patriots in all Oromo political organizations will agree with each other in the future and act in tandem to struggle for Oromian independence and Oromian unity, also taking into consideration the the necessary unity of the region at the following levels:

- at Finfinne level: to attain and maintain that Finfinne be the cultural, economic and political center of Oromo and Oromia; to be build as a core of our Oromo nation, that means Finfinne is like our Oromo heart; and to promote it be the center of all the other levels of unity; i.e the capital city of the unity at the level of Oromia, level of Ethiopia, level of the Horn and level of Africa.

- at Oromian level: in addition to having Finfinne as a core, to attain and maintain our national liberty and national unity in a form of Oromian independence and Oromian integration unconditionally, because Oromia is like our Oromo body.

- at Ethiopian level: after securing Oromian independence and Oromian unity, we do have no problem with a possible Ethiopian union, which can be considered as our Oromo inner clothing, like a shirt, which we can put on or take off based on our political will and our necessity.

- at the Horn level: a union, which will be based and build on an independent and an integrated Oromia, will be just advantageous for Oromia in particular, and for the Horn region in general, which is our Oromo middle clothing, like a coat.

- at African level: a federation/union with Finfinne as its capital or with Oromia as a center of African politics is simply a glory for Oromia, which is like our Oromo overcoat.

Last but not least, a compromise solution is not an optimal (best) solution. It is always a temporary solution till one will be in a position to demand the optimal result. That is why ‘Oromian autonomy within Ethiopian union’ (true ethnic federation = independent Oromia within integtrated Ethiopia = national self-determination with multi-national democracy = self-rule with shared rule = internal self-determination =…etc) is only a temporary solution for the Oromo question, as a prelude to the optimal solution, i.e a prelude to the referendum on: ‘Oromia autonomy within Ethiopian union’ vs ‘Oromian independence within African union’. A lasting and optimal solution is only the one, for which the Oromo majority will vote during the public verdict. The Oromo people have nothing to lose if we can decide per referendum in the future, be it for ‘independent Oromia’ or for ‘ethnic Ferderation’ or for ‘unitary Ethiopia’, as long as we can and will achieve both freedom and democracy. So, our future common values and virtues are these two concepts (freedom and democracy), for which we can have an all-inclusive alliance against the fascist and racist Woyane. I do believe that our colonizers (Abyssinian ruling class) also will be compelled in due time to learn accepting and respecting this vision as their own long term goal. Hopefully, the popular mass of both the Amhara and the Tigrai also will slowly start to struggle for the self-determination of their own respective nations in order to then forge the lasting commonly advantageous union of independent nations in the Horn region, based on the public verdict of all the stakeholders.

Related:
- Can Overcoming the ‘Amhara Elites Vs Oromo Elites’ Face-off Help the Possible Revolution in Ethiopia Erupt? ( viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26834 )

- My last advice for the suffering Amharas and Oromos! ( viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9169 )

- G-7 and OLF discussing on UNITY: enjoy! ( viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11552 )

- Oromian National Liberty & Ethiopian Regional Unity!( viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11614 )

- ALL against one EVIL: current slogan of the opposition! ( viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9071 )

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- Independent Oromia in Integrated Ethiopia: fact or fancy? ( viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1735 )

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