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Postby Gash » 03 Jun 2007, 09:07


Woyanie,

The most dumb and stupid Weyane, who try to act as an expert on something he knows nothing or knows very little. We are tired of hearing your groundless irritating lies and ideas. Your mor*onic analysis is sickening. By your posts you are insulting the intelligence of your audience. You might fool some innocent and naïve people but you can not fool anyone with your endless misinformation. Remember, there are many knowledgeable and silent observers of this form and remember you just are ridiculing yourself in front of these observers.

Do you understand the difference between Freedom and Independence? I think you don't. You must have had preconceived ideas and the sooner you heard him say that TPLF will defend Freedom of the people of Eritrea, you jumped at your fear.

Yes. TPLF will stand for the Freedom of any peoples, whether its Eritreans or Somalis or South Sudanese. The Freedom to chose how to be governed. The Eritreans under Shaebia chose Independence rather than Freedom.
That is the main point of his statement.


Please tell us how you say freedom and independence in Tigrigna, I would like to hear it. I also want to hear what you mean when you say the Eritrean people chose independence not freedom. Also please tell us what kind of freedom you are giving to the Ethiopian people.

Regarding Shaebia wanting to compromise with Derg, even Shaebia would not deny this. Shaebia was in dire situation in Sahel, and if it wasn't for Derg empty Bravado and misteken strength, Shaebia was ready to go only for Freedom to choose, at the most a Federation. But both got ahead of what was needed. Derg thought, if Shaebia can accept this, it means Shaebia is close to death and all Derg needed was a small nudge. Derg was wrong.
Shaebia thought if Derg is willing to deal only with us, that means all the organizations will be under our wing and will not be with Derg so Shaebia will be equal to Derg. Shaebia was also wrong.


Where did you get this crap? When, Where and How was the EPLF ready to compromise? Do you really remember when and where the negotiations took place? For your info first it was in Atlanta and next it moved to Nairobi. The carter center launched the peace plan after the huge victory of Afeabet which was the turning point of the Eritrean struggle from being the hunted to the hunter. It was conducted after the huge Fenkel military operation and the capture of Massawa. The negotiations came into closed door in Nairobi, because Derg was proposing an autonomous arrangement while the EPLF was consistent with its long held standing “The Eritrean people should decide its fate all by itself by conducting referendum”. The EPLF had no mandate to decide on the fate of the Eritrean people. The peace negotiations were came into closed door and EPLF also accused the so called president carter for taking side. The EPLF even made public the series of letters exchanged between carter and president Issayas through DIMSTI HAFASH at that time. Now you come from no where and you say this and that. For your information, the Weyane was non existent in the eyes of the Derg.

Later in 1991, when the American government again tried to salvage Mengistu out of demise, they arranged a meeting in London. It is the EPLF that purposely delayed the meeting and ordered the capture of Asmara a few days before the meeting. After the capture of Asmara and scramble of the Derg, the meeting in London has no meaning because of the de facto on the ground. The meeting only agrees on a safe entrance of Weyane to Addis.

We have been hearing a lot of lies from you and your likes. Lying can not change history. You also claim to have saved shaebia in Nakfa. Let me tell you, Shabia survived 8 consecutive offensives from Derg only starting 1978. The 6th offensive which Derg calls QEY KOKOB is the heaviest of all. It is true, Weyane have participated in the 6th offensive. But it was for a simple reason that their existences were totally dependent on the existence of Shabia. If in any case Mengistu managed to crush shabia in Nakfa, he only can step on Weyane like an insect in his way back to Addis. The huge military of Derg the HULETGNA ABIOTAWI SERAWIT could annihilate weyane in a matter of hours. So they just went to join the fight in Nakfa because it was also for their very survival. It was no also as someone comes and saves you out of hell. The Weyane soldiers simply were distributed under the Shabia ranks and commands and increased the number. Shabia had no confidence on the capability of Weyane to give a specific place to be guarded solely by Weyane. I am not underestimating their contribution, but I am saying this just straighten the record which getting abused by you and your likes.

But Shabia for Weyane is everything. Shabia trained you, armed you and saved you when you needed help and carry you all the way to Addis. What you did is just drive on the road Shabia prepared for you. You just happen to be lucky and run until Addis on the very smooth ground. So please feel some shame when you say we did this we did that for Eritrean people. You might mislead some innocent Ethiopian people but the Eritrean people know every single history of the past.
Last edited by Gash on 03 Jun 2007, 09:24, edited 1 time in total.



Postby Finot » 03 Jun 2007, 09:17


But Shabia for Weyane is everything. Shabia trained you, armed you and saved you when you needed help and carry you all the way to Addis.


Gash,

my friend here is telling me to scribble this response to you. I don't agree with her so don't get mad at me lolz

"why do you cry like a lil baby. Your modus operandi is to help groups that ultimately will create problems for you. You did it with weyane yesterday, you doing it with EPPF now. what a fool!"



Postby Gash » 03 Jun 2007, 11:41


So, it is your Asadagi and Asadagit who thought you to lie. LOL…But our way is to tell the truth as it is, and if someone deserve an insult we insult him and if he deserves a slap we slap him. That is the way we raised and we are proud of it.

By the way, as far as I know, Natsinet and Harnet are a synonym words in Tigrigna that are used interchangeably. What I hear is also Aboy sibhat mentioning Natsinet not Harinet, and explicitly said he will defend the Natsinet of Eritrea. The name of EPLF in Tigrigna is also HIZABAWI GINBAR HARINET ERITREA, So are you saying its name doesn't refer to Natsinet Eritrea. Anyway let's leave this to the linguistics.

I have challenged you in multitude of issues and asked you many questions, but what you did was run away from it with lame excuses.

P.S. In a serious note: I admired Aboy Sibhat on his boldness, though his speech had included some lies with it which is your trade mark.



Postby sony » 03 Jun 2007, 12:24


Woyanni wrote:Regarding Shaebia wanting to compromise with Derg, even Shaebia would not deny this.


I hope all Ethiopian adjust the priority of their enemy list.

What came out of this discussion is, Woyane is the number one enemy that lead to the dismantling of Ethiopia and still working to deepen the split of Ethiopians.

Ayen yalew Yastewel, joro yalew yesma!!!

The problem for Woyanniew spin is, Meles's book. Does Woyanneiw plan to go back and re-edit it? :lol: :lol: :lol:



Postby sony » 03 Jun 2007, 12:44


I am sorry, it is too late for you to spin things.
Good day!



Postby Gash » 03 Jun 2007, 17:55


Wayanee,

From the beginning, I didn't respond to you to convince you. I just did it for the other silent observers to know the truth. I understand your mor*onic mentality and I did not engage you to have a fruitful debate. You proved me right.

In fact, most of the time I do not understand what you say or what you try to say. All your posts are simply nonsense and do not have any solid ground. So I have concluded what I want to say to you in any issue. You can continue to blabber endless nonsense but you will only expose your ignorance and bore people.

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