To gain something you have to take risk and the risk is worthy for the pride of the country we will hand in to the next generation.

Halafi, ante lemagn ye lemagn zer, you people know nothing about take and give. you just take, take and take. chigaram ye chigaram zer. There is only one way the next generation to live in peace and harmony, you and your zer has be eradicated. If you people had an ounce of character, you wouldn’t abuse the love the Ethiopian people they have extended to you. In return, all they got from you is massacre, jailing , torture and an absolute dehumanization. Enough is enough, now, make my day go to war, I pray you do.
Lemagn Ye-Engdie lij.

Zemen, I am glad you are taking care if this twisted, esisit evil minded aiggame. I will stop argument with you.

This maniac twisted heart weyane has the nerve to insult amharas and Oromos that fill his hunger striken belly... God please make that day quick...when these twisted evils get to their proper place.

Zemen, I am glad you are taking care if this twisted, esisit evil minded [deleted]. I will stop argument with you.

This maniac twisted heart weyane has the nerve to insult amharas and Oromos that fill his hunger striken belly... God please make that day quick...when these twisted evils get to their proper place.

Good job Belay

I hope and pray that another senseless war is not started. It is very disturbing to hear this kind of news. What is the gain for Ethiopia now to go to war? Losing another thousands of soldiers, destroying infrastructures, spending millions and may be billions of dollars for nothing? This is sick! If Meles goes to war, it shows only how very insecure this guy has become. I hope common sense overcomes at the end and we are spared from another senseless and stupid war!

Fiqre-Hizb,

You seem to be all the time behind the curves. You were arguing with me Meles policy about land leasing to foreign countries are good but I saw you posting you reversed yesterday I am glad to see you it is wrong. Today you are saying it is not good Ethiopia to go to war against Eritrea, I wonder you thinking is about your ethnic gain by being Issayas alive in power than ousted and Ethiopia gains Sea outlet and peace. Ethiopia never had any kind of peace since Eritrea gained independent, we handed them out to live in peace but out efforts became fruitless despite Ethiopia is paying a hefty price for port fees and the price of peace, then why not just go to war and remove the insane and let Ethiopia recover the Afar region. To gain something you have to take risk and the risk is worthy for the pride of the country we will hand in to the next generation.

Halafi, you are misquoting me now for the second time about the land grab. I was always against the land grab. Show me a single statement that show, I supported the land grab. Never! Please see my old thread here: viewtopic.php?t=33478

What I was arguing with you was that the Meles' policy of selling electricity to Djibouti is a right thing to do, which I still stand by my statement. So, get your facts straight. It has nothing to do with land grab.

Now come to the current war mongering. First, my ethnic group i.e. the poor Amhara will benefit nothing from the Eritrean government. Zero! I really did not see any Ethiopian opposition organization that has its main office in Asmara accomplish anything substantive to end dictatorship in Ethiopia. I'm not like Elias, who sees his future in the hands of Isayas Afeworki. Even the so called TPDM and EPPF have achieved almost nothing and I haven't heard of them for months and years now. Let me be frank here, whether in the field of military or politics or diplomacy, their achievement was very little and insignificant. They seem to be totally forgotten not only by the people they claim to represent but also by their very enemy woyane. That tells you how alive they are! I don't want to simply blame the Eritrean government but most organizations that have their main offices in Asmara have become some how paralyzed. I may be mistaken but that is at least my impression.

So, I believe in an indigenous Ethiopian opposition, that is not absolutely controlled by Isayas. With or without Isayas, the fate of Ethiopia is in the hands of Ethiopians and they are the ones that need to do the job. So, my whole stand against any senseless war doesn't come from some futile hope of gaining something from Isayas.

That said, I am absolutely against a war that does not come out of absolute necessity and out of self defense. If Ethiopia starts war now, it is pure adventurism and aggression, which I fully am against. It is simply irresponsible to sacrifice thousands of lives, displace hundred of thousands of civilians in both countries, destroy infrastructure and spend billions of dollars just for the sake of adventurism. If we are not against this kind of senseless war, then I don't know what we kind of people we are. Ethiopians should stand united as one to defeat aggression from outside any time but they should also start to learn to condemn aggression that is initiated by their own government!

The difference between you and me is that you seem to be only focused on the question of who will win the war. I'm against the war not because I'm afraid Eritrea somehow will crush Ethiopia and march to Addis. Who wins the war is not in my equation. The question is not about who wins the war but about finding a long term win-win solution that can serve as a basis for a peaceful coexistence of our both nations. Believe me whether Ethiopia wins this war or another war, as long as you are not able to get the idea of Eritreanism out of Eritreans you are just postponing the conflict to another generation. So lets grow up and start to learn to solve conflicts peacefully through negotiations and compromise. This is the only way that guarantees a peaceful and prosperous future for our next generation. I would want rather to hand to my next generation a stable, democratic and peaceful region than a port that serves as flash point to the conflict of the next generation.

such thing is bound to happen since any proxy effort from either side didn't make fruit. Eritreas effort of using Somalia failed miserably since weyanne neutralized it by marching all the way to mogadishu. Weyanne also exited when the going gets tough in somalia by begging the international community to fund the African Union troops at least 8,000 of them. Weyanne also benefited from U.S and U.N once they chose to support the transitional government of somalia on their fight against al-shabab. weyanne also benefited by the blessing of International community giving the green light to kenia to kick al-shabab from south and western somalia weakening further the threat to weyannes from south and south east. If the Eritrean project was successful there i.e International community stay away from the business, somalis would have complete control of their country subsequaently helping ONLF and OLF from that direction. Weyanne was saved by international community in that direction. Also, Eritrea could have threatened the existence of weyane by arming the people of Gonder but they chose not because it contradicts their long term ajenda of a disintegerated and weaker Ethiopia.

Weyanne in the other hand did similar effort by arming and organizing dissident Eritreans. but most of them are old falks who have no vision and interest on getting things to be done quickly. Only the Afar group has minimal effect on causing damage only once in a year. Since both weyanne and shabia can not coexist, they will go to war one day. if not this year, may be next year and so. Also If eritrea fully exploited the recent Mineral business, it would become a country that can modernize its army and defenses including its support somali or ethiopian oppositions to unseat meles from his power. if the report of troop movement is true, it is common sense for Meles and weyanne to react quiclky and take on Eritrea before it become very powerful to take on.

The only sad thing about the war for me is that Tigrayans will sit behind as usual and the death toll will be only on Amharas, Oromos and Eritreans. Once the war is finished, we will see tigrayans with their kebero singing "We are heroes ...etc"

The only sad thing about the war for me is that Tigrayans will sit behind as usual and the death toll will be only on Amharas, Oromos and Eritreans. Once the war is finished, we will see tigrayans with their kebero singing "We are heroes ...etc"

That is the truth Semira.

Ethiopian Review sources are reporting that Woyanne is amassing troops in northern Ethiopia. Hundreds of buses filled with troops are observed heading north. Is this a preparation for war with Eritrea? This is a developing story. Stay tuned.

Does this mean shabo, TPDM, EPPF, etc. will be heading to Sinai to become organ donors?

Oj..if there are non tigrean troops servicing weyane and if they die, I have no sympathy..because that person has betrayed his people to work under woyane leadership. However. If the Weyanes start to recruit fresh soldiers from the farmers and if those farmers ate unaware if Weyanes policy and signed up and go to war front because of excessive propaganda...I have symphaty...because I know these fresh solders are manipulated by weyane false propaganda.

Eritrea could have threatened the existence of weyane by arming the people of Gonder but they chose not because it contradicts their long term ajenda of a disintegerated and weaker Ethiopia.

Weyanne in the other hand did similar effort by arming and organizing dissident Eritreans. but most of them are old falks who have no vision and interest on getting things to be done quickly. Only the Afar group has minimal effect on causing damage only once in a year. Since both weyanne and shabia can not coexist, they will go to war one day. if not this year, may be next year and so. Also If eritrea fully exploited the recent Mineral business, it would become a country that can modernize its army and defenses including its support somali or ethiopian oppositions to unseat meles from his power. if the report of troop movement is true, it is common sense for Meles and weyanne to react quiclky and take on Eritrea before it become very powerful to take on.

The only sad thing about the war for me is that Tigrayans will sit behind as usual and the death toll will be only on Amharas, Oromos and Eritreans. Once the war is finished, we will see tigrayans with their kebero singing "We are heroes ...etc"

Arming Gonder is like pouring water in to a broken jar. No mater how fast your pour the water to the jar never be full of water. The same is true no matter how Shaebia spends time and resources to train and arm Amhara, the end result is the same as the day one when they start training them, never move one inch to be guerrilla fighters. You have to have the gut to be a guerrilla fighter in the bush with out Lebleb Tibs siga and woman.

About your Eritrean opposition assessment, I tend to agree with you and the others about Eritrean resources and both Issayas and Meles will not coexist anymore and one of them has to go is correct assessment. I hope both go ASAP though!!!

The war between Eritrea and weayne (Tigrains) is a good thing every non-Tigrain Ethiopians should support it; however, we should not stand still and wait until weyane’s back is broken by shabia; instead the opposition groups should try every means to arm their followers, especially the mountain area of Gondar: armachiho, welkait, Tselemt, wegera, debretabor, gaint and quara are still safety zones to start armed struggle.

As the Shabia general described it, Weayne is a group of peasant militias do not have any training in conventional warfare, except dying in thousands to liberate one small land.
I had a chance to see them fighting in Debark, wegera and Deberetabor area, and it was sad to see them coming toward the front and die, no tactic at all except singing Tigrgna song and become the folder of the tank.

I still have strong confidence that if the Amhara area is well armed it would defeat the Tigrians.

The main thing is that the opposition should do is strong propaganda and makes the war between Amhara and Tigre aas well as aware the Gondar peasant how the Tigrians are considering him like a women.
propaganda is verey important, with propaganda you could change the most coward individuals to the beast.

Alexander’s greatness was not happened randomly, but his wise mother groomed him to be like that by teaching his divine parentage. She told him that he was a super-human and his father was Zeus not Philip the king, and Alexander had believed it and become the fighter the world even known.

Psychology works and Ethiopian opposition groups should make their case and prepare their followers to be Alexander the great and break the Achilles-tendon of Tigrians.

By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise. Adolf Hitler

I hate Hitler, but I like his quote about propaganda, and our opposition should learn form it.