Some historians say the rivalvry between Eritreans and Tigryans goes back to the 16th century (1550s), others say only 140 years (from the time of Kassa Mirach 1880s) and they back it up with historical account where Kassa invaded and burned their fields to the ground after looting all harvest. Till Italians arrived Eris were getting killed by the powerful Kassa Mirach who was using the weapons he garnered for snitching on Tewodros to the Brits.

What do you guys think?

Good question Aba Dula. Although Meles and Sibhat including their ignorant hordes try to falsify history by pointing their fingures on Minilik, it all started way back in 200-300 years ago and exasberated during the kassa Mircha (King Yohannes period). I believe they tricked one of the Eritrean noble man into some kind of negotiation and killed him on his arrival to Tigray and continued rampaging Eritrean barka, Kunama and baria lands. Mind you, the Tigrayan ethno-fashists and supremacists blame and accuse Minilik and the Shoa amharas expansion to the south, west, and east of Ethiopia and they encite hate against amharas. but they have never mentioned the attrocities they commited in Eritrea particularly the murders and ethnic clensing they commited against Kunama and Barai tribes in eritrea and the Gojjam region.

They blame Minilik on the boundary that is created between Ethiopia and Eritrea by Italians while it was clear and evident that Ras allula and Tigrayan nobles were doing a back door dealing with Italians offering the entire Eritrea to italians to score against minilik. All in all, for every ill they encounter they like to point finger to someone. they still do not know to take the responsibility of their wrong doings which is a sign of laziness and ignorance

the elites of the two tegarus have been at eachother's throat ever since colonialists played with their brains and stole them of their self confidence. almost all the elites of people of the world that share same ethnic/ tribal background living separately because of the historical fact of colonial borders would love to live together or, at least, work together for common goal. Example, somalis, kurds, afars, pashtuns, azerbajans etc etc ....

but the elites of the two aig'ame cousins have been and will continue to work against the interest of eachother. only some kind of common existentional threat will bring sense into them. otherwise, they are faaked. the problem is huge because the two not only fight eachother but they take entire horn of africa to hell because the two control power in the two countries and beyond.

that's why i advise constantly that power should be devolved to the lowland Eritrea elite and the oromo, amara .... elites in Ethiopia.

Eden

The problem of the Horn is the wildest dream of Abay-Tigray ajenda by people like you. your submissiveness to the British during the Theodor time just for the lust of power, Your submissivenss during Italian expansion in which Allula offered Italian Ocupation of eritrea just for the same lust for power and your current submission to the West still to stay in power is one of the big problems for the wars in somalia and eritrea that is consuming the life of the entire horn people. the person you admire and call zena is selling the nations arable land to any outsider to loot money and those who are investing through him to protect their interests which litterally translates to protecting zena itself is one other big crises you people are creating in a daily basis. the scars you are leaving on peoples body and mind can not be erased in thousands of years

semira zimbel ante wendagere, you know nothing about the two brother peoples. Tigray was always one until the Italians stole the north part.

the elites of the two tegarus have been at eachother's throat ever since colonialists played with their brains and stole them of their self confidence. almost all the elites of people of the world that share same ethnic/ tribal background living separately because of the historical fact of colonial borders would love to live together or, at least, work together for common goal. Example, somalis, kurds, afars, pashtuns, azerbajans etc etc ....

but the elites of the two aig'ame cousins have been and will continue to work against the interest of eachother. only some kind of common existentional threat will bring sense into them. otherwise, they are faaked. the problem is huge because the two not only fight eachother but they take entire horn of africa to hell because the two control power in the two countries and beyond.

that's why i advise constantly that power should be devolved to the lowland Eritrea elite and the oromo, amara .... elites in Ethiopia.

Who did say ''If someone hits you with a cudgel, you don't get upset with the object but with the hand behind it''.

Trying to portray yourself as a worthy 'enemy' that could challenge Eritreans is laughable. To Eritreans, you're just an errand boy who won't last on the throne for a day without the support of your masters.

long before ancebas were richristened as Arrterans they were always Tigrayan subjects. Even during the Zemene mesafint when Ethiopia was desolved by Kingmaker Sehul Mikael of Tigrayabay, he (Sehul) kept the entire Semen ... North of Dabat town , the entire eastern agew including Lasta and wag--- that is, besides keeping Tigray proper & Merebmilash. Kingmaker Sehul Mikael was followed by Ras weldegebriel of Axum, then by Ras weldeselasse of Enderta (who hails from the house of Ras Fares of Southern Tigray), followed by Ras Sebagadis of A-game, followed by Ras Nigus Wube (of Tembern and Tselemti), followed by Ras Baryagabir (during the Tedros rule), followed by Yohannes.

This chain alone--as an uninterrupted, albeit last rule by Tigray-- lasted well more more than 100 years.

thank you qindibu and abel qael for providing the beef to the skeleton/ my argument. you just proved the two tegaru elites are too much and power concentrated at their hands is a recipie for disaster for the horn of africa. I REST MY CASE!

thank you qindibu and abel qael for providing the beef to the skeleton/ my argument. you just proved the two tegaru elites are too much and power concentrated at their hands is a recipie for disaster for the horn of africa. I REST MY CASE!

That is what I thought- one of your face-saving strategies.

You don't rest a case that isn't there to begin with. You don't exercise the power you don't own, and by definition that is what it means an errand boy. You can't be a messenger to others if you have the power. Thus you don't devolve the power you don't have in the first place. Simply, your woyane is there by the 'goodwill' of the West and woyane's power 'devolves' when the West says so.

Anyhow, I know, you're equipped neither with the congintive skill nor the emotional maturity to expound and come up with palatable ideas.

i think qindibu is giving more weight to foreigners than the people when it comes to the destny of a country. respectfully, i kind of disagree. let's take the egypt example. the foreigners wanted Mubarak to stay but the people power was too much in the end. so the same goes with the powers in addis and asmara. i'm not naive about the weight of foreign intervention but i do have trust in people.

in the end, the argument remains that power should be distributed instead of being concentrated at the hands of the two tegaru elites up and down the mereb. i don't know if there is any legitmate reason to oppose this. if so, qindibu please do not be afraid to explain and speak your mind. afterall, this is what forums are for, aren't they?