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Re: Indian Ocean Newsletter: US looking to replace Meles Zen

Postby ethiopianunity » 22 Feb 2012, 07:57


Beles wrote:An Ethiopia that descends in to chaos is a security nightmare for US. And policy analysts in Washington at last clearly has identified Meles as the source of that instability. The old tribal loyalty in TPLF has long been replaced by self interest. Most of the high and middle ranking military personnel that exist to day are not only trained by US but also draw their pay check from funds provided by US whether in peace keeping mission or in the country. Meles's only leverage over the armed forces is the funds provided by US. They are often deployed where ever US needs them. Therefore who ever is favored by US will take command of the armed forces.
The three choices given to Meles, Tewodros Adhanom the current minister of health who is more of a technocrat than a politician, Arkebe Oqubay an inside rival and whose administrative style shown to be different to that of Meles, and former Chief of Staff and General Tsadkan Gebre-Tensae who was dismissed by Meles shows that US is not only interested in changing Meles but his style of governance too. The absence of Meles's hand picked yes men (Hailemariam Desalegn et. al) clearly shows US will not give Meles a room to play Putin in the post Meles politics of Ethiopia.

ras wrote:The key question. Why would the US want to change meles?


U.S will give power to a leader that will spread neoliberalism in Ethiopia. The leader must allow Western corporations to come in and exploit. If the Ethiopian army is under the control of U.S army, you might as well say we are already neocolonized, it is a done deal. This means the army only answer to the well being of the West but not Ethiopians and its unity.



Re: Indian Ocean Newsletter: US looking to replace Meles Zen

Postby ethiopianunity » 22 Feb 2012, 08:11


revolutions wrote:
ras wrote:The key question. Why would the US want to change meles?


Because he's just another disposable slave that the IMF can easily replace by an equally mindless slave mimicking nice-sounding but completely vague buzz words. The bankers, who systematically enslaved the country by debt, don't want to see a leader who will provide 3 meals per day to the Ethiopian people, or put shoes on the feet of the impoverished 15 million barefoot coffee farmers in the country, or provide education and health-care to the population. It is the country's debt that has priority for repayment over the basic needs of the Ethiopian people. Higher priority is also given to the job security of the over a million people working for various NGOs in Western countries who earn a living from the man-made humanitarian crisis and the AID that flows into Ethiopia.


We agree here. As your comments are sporadic going between Ethiopia and Eritrea, it is true with what you said above.



Re: Indian Ocean Newsletter: US looking to replace Meles Zen

Postby ras » 22 Feb 2012, 14:42


ethiopianunity wrote:
revolutions wrote:
ras wrote:The key question. Why would the US want to change meles?


Because he's just another disposable slave that the IMF can easily replace by an equally mindless slave mimicking nice-sounding but completely vague buzz words. The bankers, who systematically enslaved the country by debt, don't want to see a leader who will provide 3 meals per day to the Ethiopian people, or put shoes on the feet of the impoverished 15 million barefoot coffee farmers in the country, or provide education and health-care to the population. It is the country's debt that has priority for repayment over the basic needs of the Ethiopian people. Higher priority is also given to the job security of the over a million people working for various NGOs in Western countries who earn a living from the man-made humanitarian crisis and the AID that flows into Ethiopia.


We agree here. As your comments are sporadic going between Ethiopia and Eritrea, it is true with what you said above.


I think the problems in the area are interlinked as some Ethiopian groups are in Eritrea



Re: USA already looks to post- Meles

Postby Dagna » 22 Feb 2012, 18:02


I wonder how Meles Zenawi lasted thus far. I thought he would have been cut lose long time ago, especially right after the 99.6% election result. Everyone was surprised, I think even TPLF insiders could not believe the result, it was more like vote for TPLF or die hungry, and Ethiopians being the soft people they are they chose TPLF over hunger. Farmers were threatened with fertilizer blockade, hungry regions were threatened with food aid blockade, students were threatened with school closing and diploma denying, graduated people were threatened with job prospect. I thought US would take a firm stand on TPLF on these measures. Instead they increased the aid regiment. food aid became the way of life in Ethiopia, and now food aid is the one and only path.



Re: USA already looks to post- Meles

Postby revolutions » 22 Feb 2012, 18:47


Dagna wrote:I wonder how Meles Zenawi lasted thus far.

The Woyane slaves, being property, their relationship with their master or how long they should be at his service is not established through a contact. They are completely at the mercy of their master's whims. The master has the only say in all matters relating to the slaves. At least that's what Dr Berhanu Nega found out about the slave woyanes in 2005. Watch this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrPaNYBl ... age#t=409s
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Re: Indian Ocean Newsletter: US looking to replace Meles Zenawi (with non-Tigryan)

Postby yoha » 23 Feb 2012, 05:24


YeSat-Nebelbal wrote:Reality is creeping, slowly but surely. US is fed up with TPLF Mass murder programme against Somalis, meles is becoming a liability. As nations are looking at the US with a shock over the genocidal regime in Ethiopia, US is feeling the heat, because they do not want to be looked at as being the backer of genocide, they are cutting their relations with liabilities like Meles Zenawi and Azeb esfin, mob style.

USA already looks to post- Meles

ETHIOPIA

Some Ethiopian opponents are convinced that the United States may have already begun to discuss the succession of Prime Minister Meles Zenawi. (...) [271 words] [$7]


ዩናይትድ ስቴትስ መለስን የመሰለ ገረድ ከየትም ማምጣት ስለማይችሉ እሱን ማቆየት ይመርጡ ይሆናል ዋናው ቁም ነገር ግን ጭራሹንስ ወያኔ የሚቀጥለው ምርጫ ተሳታፊስ ይሆን ወይ ብለን ብንጠይቅ መልስ ማግኝት ይቻላል::



Re: USA already looks to post- Meles

Postby BEQA-Meles-BEQA!!! » 23 Feb 2012, 18:36


yoha wrote:ዩናይትድ ስቴትስ መለስን የመሰለ ገረድ ከየትም ማምጣት ስለማይችሉ እሱን ማቆየት ይመርጡ ይሆናል ዋናው ቁም ነገር ግን ጭራሹንስ ወያኔ የሚቀጥለው ምርጫ ተሳታፊስ ይሆን ወይ ብለን ብንጠይቅ መልስ ማግኝት ይቻላል::


Meles Zenawi and TPLF don't care whether or not they come to power, they already have all the money they want. After twenty years of looting, one does not want anything extra. If you let me loot for twenty minutes, I would be set for life, imagine if I loot for twenty years? All the people I know in the world will be set for life. You all have seen how TPLF had enough money to bring Beyonce for a 45 minutes concert. This is while millions of Ethiopians were on food aid, and some in Ogaden were deliberately being killed by starvation.

If Ogadeni farmers grow crops, TPLF junta comes and take the main worker for a month letting ripe crops fail from being harvested. Sometimes, they burn the whole crop, for its dry and easily catches fire. This shows how mean spirited TPLF is, and the financiers are helping it carry all this crazy activities in the name of making Ethiopia look good, thanks to US taxpayers, they can handle anything, what they cannot handle is unemployment and on top of being unemployed they are being sucked dry. Some very smart observer once said, "the business of aid is taking money from the poor in rich countries and giving it to rich folks in poor countries."



Re: USA already looks to post- Meles

Postby Beles » 24 Feb 2012, 11:34


ወተት ጠርሙስ ውስጥ የገባውን እባብ ታሪክ እንዴት ረሳኸው:: ወተቱን ጠጥቶ ጠጥቶ ልውጣ ቢል የጠርሙሱ አንገት ያዘው:: ለመውጣት ወተቱን መልሶ መትፋት አለበት:: ስልጣን ላይ ወጥተው የሚከብሩ ሰዎችም እንዲሁ ናቸው:: በቀላሉ ሊወጡ አይችሉም:: የበሉት ያንቃቸዋል::

BEQA-Meles-BEQA!!! wrote:
yoha wrote:ዩናይትድ ስቴትስ መለስን የመሰለ ገረድ ከየትም ማምጣት ስለማይችሉ እሱን ማቆየት ይመርጡ ይሆናል ዋናው ቁም ነገር ግን ጭራሹንስ ወያኔ የሚቀጥለው ምርጫ ተሳታፊስ ይሆን ወይ ብለን ብንጠይቅ መልስ ማግኝት ይቻላል::


Meles Zenawi and TPLF don't care whether or not they come to power, they already have all the money they want. After twenty years of looting, one does not want anything extra. If you let me loot for twenty minutes, I would be set for life, imagine if I loot for twenty years? All the people I know in the world will be set for life. You all have seen how TPLF had enough money to bring Beyonce for a 45 minutes concert. This is while millions of Ethiopians were on food aid, and some in Ogaden were deliberately being killed by starvation.

If Ogadeni farmers grow crops, TPLF junta comes and take the main worker for a month letting ripe crops fail from being harvested. Sometimes, they burn the whole crop, for its dry and easily catches fire. This shows how mean spirited TPLF is, and the financiers are helping it carry all this crazy activities in the name of making Ethiopia look good, thanks to US taxpayers, they can handle anything, what they cannot handle is unemployment and on top of being unemployed they are being sucked dry. Some very smart observer once said, "the business of aid is taking money from the poor in rich countries and giving it to rich folks in poor countries."



Re: USA already looks to post- Meles

Postby revolutions » 24 Feb 2012, 17:35



The Ethiopian people should be allowed to vote in US Presidential elections because the candidate who receives the most electoral votes gets to decide who should be the next dictator in Ethiopia.



Re: USA already looks to post- Meles

Postby YeSat-Nebelbal » 24 Feb 2012, 23:07


revolutions wrote:
The Ethiopian people should be allowed to vote in US Presidential elections because the candidate who receives the most electoral votes gets to decide who should be the next dictator in Ethiopia.


Meles Zenawi sold Ethiopia's foreign policy to the US, and we need to vote in a country where our foreign policy is dictated from, for we have great stake in the outcome of the election in the US. The next President of the US needs to do better by Ethiopia, not the way things have been for the past several years, but a different course. When President Obama got elected, we had hoped things would be different, despite ideological difference between the two diametrically opposite political parties in the US, policy on Ethiopia remains the same. To our surprise, whatever the previous administration ideologue insiders did was, in fact, scaled up and carried out with precision. We need change.

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