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Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby Red Sea » 29 Mar 2012, 15:23


Elias you can not have your cake and eat it too. If the shelter Eritrea is giving to your people (opposition group) is not good enough for you all and you all are resorted to accuse us of their coward attitudes and in actions, then I suggest you relocate them to Somalia. After all, in Somalia is where your enemy is at as we speak.
Being a guest and demanding to sleep in the master bed room, while asking your host sleeps on the floor does not sound a sign of appreciation.
It is simple. If they do not like the way they are treated and cared inside Eritrea, there is always tigray (their domain) if Somalia is too far for them or they are scared to face the woyane where it is at.



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby elias » 29 Mar 2012, 15:58


amantu wrote:Elias,

I don't understand how a junior military officer can take matters in to his own hands and murder a powerful leader of a powerful organization. It is true that Fisahaye was murdered but there are too many facts/theories who could be behind his murder. I don't believe this junior cornel can act on his own to do anything much less to asassinate a leader. If the allegation is true, It must have came from the higher echelon. I will try to learn and understand more about it all once I get there.


Amantu,

Fisseha was shot to death near Col. Fitsum's office. He was killed shortly after he stormed out of Fitsum's office following a heated argument. Every body in TPDM knows that Fitsum ordered the killing of Fisseha.



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby elias » 29 Mar 2012, 16:16


Red Sea wrote:Elias you can not have your cake and eat it too. If the shelter Eritrea is giving to your people (opposition group) is not good enough for you all and you all are resorted to accuse us of their coward attitudes and in actions, then I suggest you relocate them to Somalia. After all, in Somalia is where your enemy is at as we speak.
Being a guest and demanding to sleep in the master bed room, while asking your host sleeps on the floor does not sound a sign of appreciation.
It is simple. If they do not like the way they are treated and cared inside Eritrea, there is always tigray (their domain) if Somalia is too far for them or they are scared to face the woyane where it is at.


Red Sea, I hope that all Eritreans are NOT arrogant fools like you. Asking to free our comrades is not the same as asking to "sleep in the master bed room." What an idiot!

I didn't beg to go to Eritrea. I was invited after Isaias Afwerki said publicly that "Ethiopia's unity is not a threat to Eritrea," and that he wants to provide shelter for Ethiopians who are fighting against the Woyanne ethnic apartheid junta. After the president's promise, I didn't anticipate that a mid-level Eritrean officer by the name of Fitsum Yisehak can throw in jail Ethiopian opposition leaders without any explanation. Cooperation between the GoE and Ethiopian opposition groups is highly beneficial to both sides, and I hope that there are enough farsighted leaders in the GoE to realize that and remove obstacles to cooperation.



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby Minelik » 29 Mar 2012, 20:56


Obamajr. wrote:ፈሶ- Do you heard what Ato Elias said or do you need an @game translator? Let me explain to you in simple Amahric- yetem fichew duqetun amchew. Since you don't read Amharic I have tried my best to help you out.
If Pfl is honest and if he really wants to help the Ethiopian opposition groups from the bottom of his heart, I am with him but if he is playing games like Elias said he is not better than the rest of African tyrants.
Remember one more thing, a great man respected by most of Africans said one time
"our attitude toward any country is determined by the attitude of that country to our struggle. That makes for some un seemly bed follow "
Nelson Mandela
I hope you don't need a translator.


ሊስትሮ why do not you shut the pie hole? ante ልክስክስ... ቡካታም አዛባ ስልጤ.. when I am not around you open your big mouth.. of course what would I expect from ስልጤ..



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby Red Sea » 30 Mar 2012, 04:13


elias wrote:
Red Sea wrote:Elias you can not have your cake and eat it too. If the shelter Eritrea is giving to your people (opposition group) is not good enough for you all and you all are resorted to accuse us of their coward attitudes and in actions, then I suggest you relocate them to Somalia. After all, in Somalia is where your enemy is at as we speak.
Being a guest and demanding to sleep in the master bed room, while asking your host sleeps on the floor does not sound a sign of appreciation.
It is simple. If they do not like the way they are treated and cared inside Eritrea, there is always tigray (their domain) if Somalia is too far for them or they are scared to face the woyane where it is at.


Red Sea, I hope that all Eritreans are NOT arrogant fools like you. Asking to free our comrades is not the same as asking to "sleep in the master bed room." What an idiot!

I didn't beg to go to Eritrea. I was invited after Isaias Afwerki said publicly that "Ethiopia's unity is not a threat to Eritrea," and that he wants to provide shelter for Ethiopians who are fighting against the Woyanne ethnic apartheid junta. After the president's promise, I didn't anticipate that a mid-level Eritrean officer by the name of Fitsum Yisehak can throw in jail Ethiopian opposition leaders without any explanation. Cooperation between the GoE and Ethiopian opposition groups is highly beneficial to both sides, and I hope that there are enough farsighted leaders in the GoE to realize that and remove obstacles to cooperation.


Elias I did not bring the topic of your visit to Eritrea or who invited whom and the demanding to sleep in the master bed room was not directed towards you.
But again, yes your oposition groups are having shelter in Eritrea and that does not mean we the Eritrean people or our government got to baby sit them, or take their interests over our nation's interests.
For one you sound like you got some kind of personal issue going on with Fitsum. And if it is deemed that Fitsum (an Eritrean colonel) found out there is an intention to hurt Eritrea, not only by one of your opposition memebers (a foreigner) but even by an Eritrean for that matter have all the right to put them in jail or shoot them in the spot, and not Fitsum or Isayas has the obligation to tell the world why they did it. We are in a war footing and we are always guarding ourselves.
And as the co-operation you mentioned:
We are not asking your opposition members to fight our fights if we have a fight to conduct to. Your opposition groups are there for their benefit not Eritrea's benefit and thus, they should conduct them selves towards why they are being sheltered in Eritrea and quit medelling or telling us, if we have to have a good relationship after the downfall of woyane, we have to do this and that on their behalf.
Elias sorry to break the news, but yes majority of the Eritreans are like me, cautious but not arrogants or fools like you put it. And I refuse to call you an idiot, an arrogant and a fool for I know that you are not like majority of the scum bags of the memebers of your forum.
What kind of co-operation are you expecting from the GoE and your opposition groups? Take them to Addis using Eritreans buses and tanks like we did to the TPLF? Well, we will do that when they prove to them selves that they are worthy.
We gave them the horses and we provided them with the fields and it is upto them to gallop on it now.
If one or two bad apples are amongst them in our eyes, then you need to elect others to replace them and move on for we are not going to geoperdize our selves or interests for your comrades sake.
Rome was not built in one day as Eritrea was not freed in one day, and certainly it won't be because of one or two of your opposition members got arrested or got shot that woyane will not be ousted in one day.
Yes again I will say, "one can not have his cake and eat it too".



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby kasaye » 30 Mar 2012, 11:30


amantu wrote:Folks,

Two years ago, Eritreans in North America donated thousands dollars worth of medical supplies to TPDM. They deserved it. And we should do the same thing this year for this powerful organization led by a young charismatic Ethiopian comrade Mola.

Amantu


Why should Ethiopians fund another Tigray Liberator? So Shabia can go back to Ethiopia for another round of looting? You people should stop interfering in Ethiopia's internal affair. a few weeks ago your as*s was kicked and your lunatic leader made the usual 3AM phone call to be saved. And you have the nerve to come back and beg for money so you can go back to your looting on the back of your TPDM? Have you no shame boy? Do you want another bang bang on your behind? You stay out of Ethiopian affairs or else there will be a lot of consequence to follow. You hear me little Shabia messenger boy? You don't want another bang bang on the as*s before that last wound you received couple of weeks go heals. Do you? You don't want to see whatever Eris who reside inside Ethiopia including your Eri refuges who run away from your lunatic leader get deported back to your Singapore. Do you? We did it before and noting will stop us from doing it again as long as you interferer in Ethiopian internal affairs. Stay out!The payback is tremendous.



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby Awash » 30 Mar 2012, 13:48


kasaye wrote:
amantu wrote:Folks,

Two years ago, Eritreans in North America donated thousands dollars worth of medical supplies to TPDM. They deserved it. And we should do the same thing this year for this powerful organization led by a young charismatic Ethiopian comrade Mola.

Amantu


Why should Ethiopians fund another Tigray Liberator? So Shabia can go back to Ethiopia for another round of looting? You people should stop interfering in Ethiopia's internal affair. a few weeks ago your as*s was kicked and your lunatic leader made the usual 3AM phone call to be saved. And you have the nerve to come back and beg for money so you can go back to your looting on the back of your TPDM? Have you no shame boy? Do you want another bang bang on your behind? You stay out of Ethiopian affairs or else there will be a lot of consequence to follow. You hear me little Shabia messenger boy? You don't want another bang bang on the as*s before that last wound you received couple of weeks go heals. Do you? You don't want to see whatever Eris who reside inside Ethiopia including your Eri refuges who run away from your lunatic leader get deported back to your Singapore. Do you? We did it before and noting will stop us from doing it again as long as you interferer in Ethiopian internal affairs. Stay out!The payback is tremendous.


That's what I'm talking about. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby amantu » 30 Mar 2012, 14:13


Kasaye,

Dergue begged shabia not to support weyane but despite his plea the Eritrean continued assisting TPLF in all aspects and placed them in Menelik Palace. All shabia doing is the same thing. TPDM will be given the Minlik Palace soon.

Amantu



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby elias » 30 Mar 2012, 14:14


Red Sea wrote:And if it is deemed that Fitsum (an Eritrean colonel) found out there is an intention to hurt Eritrea, not only by one of your opposition memebers (a foreigner) but even by an Eritrean for that matter have all the right to put them in jail or shoot them in the spot, and not Fitsum or Isayas has the obligation to tell the world why they did it.


Such is called lawlessness and savagery. Every body has the right to due process of the law, even mass murderer like Meles Zenawi. If what you are saying is the norm in Eritrea, then you are saying that it is a nation of savages, not civilized people.

Red Sea wrote:What kind of co-operation are you expecting from the GoE and your opposition groups? Take them to Addis using Eritreans buses and tanks like we did to the TPLF? Well, we will do that when they prove to them selves that they are worthy. We gave them the horses and we provided them with the fields and it is upto them to gallop on it now.


We don't need any thing from Eritrea except shelter and protection for the opposition leaders from the kind of things that's being done to them right now. What is happening is that Col. Fitsum is in charge of all the Ethiopian opposition groups who have shelters in Eritrea and he is preventing them from going into Ethiopia or any where. The opposition leaders are his hostages. They are not allowed to travel any where, he can arrest, torture, and kill them with impunity. I want to focus on Fitsum because I'm trying to localize the problem with the hope that the GoE will make corrections. As most others say, every thing Fitsum does may have been authorized by higher-ups, or it might be the policy of the GoE. I don't want to reach that conclusion just yet. No need to rush. At the same time, I am not going to remain silent when my comrades are arrested, tortured and killed by an Eritrean colonel without any reason or explanation.



Re: Fund raising for TPDM!

Postby kasaye » 30 Mar 2012, 14:20


amantu wrote:Kasaye,

Dergue begged shabia :lol: :lol: :lol: not to support weyane but despite his plea the Eritrean continued assisting TPLF in all aspects and placed them in Menelik Palace. All shabia doing is the same thing. TPDM will be given the Minlik Palace soon.

Amantu


Keep on supporting Ethiopia's enemy and you very much know what is coming to your way. Be advised the last bang bang was just a test. The next one will be your last. No amount of phone call will stop Ethiopia. After that we will never have this conversation ever again. Trust me! Save your Shabia breath. No one will ever bring you back to Ethiopia to loot or divide Ethiopians for your own agenda.

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