Elias you can not have your cake and eat it too. If the shelter Eritrea is giving to your people (opposition group) is not good enough for you all and you all are resorted to accuse us of their coward attitudes and in actions, then I suggest you relocate them to Somalia. After all, in Somalia is where your enemy is at as we speak.
Being a guest and demanding to sleep in the master bed room, while asking your host sleeps on the floor does not sound a sign of appreciation.
It is simple. If they do not like the way they are treated and cared inside Eritrea, there is always tigray (their domain) if Somalia iis too far for them or they are scared to face the woyane where it is at.

Red Sea, I hope that all Eritreans are NOT arrogant fools like you. Asking to free our comrades is not the same as asking to "sleep in the master bed room." What an idiot!

I didn't beg to go to Eritrea. I was invited after Isaias Afwerki said publicly that "Ethiopia's unity is not a threat to Eritrea," and that he wants to provide shelter for Ethiopians who are fighting against the Woyanne ethnic apartheid junta. After the president's promise, I didn't anticipate that a mid-level Eritrean officer by the name of Fitsum Yisehak can throw in jail Ethiopian opposition leaders without any explanation. Cooperation between the GoE and Ethiopian opposition groups is highly beneficial to both sides, and I hope that there are enough farsighted leaders in the GoE to realize that and remove obstacles to cooperation.

Elias I did not bring the topic of your visit to Eritrea or who invited whom and the demanding to sleep in the master bed room was not directed towards you.
But again, yes your oposition groups are having shelter in Eritrea and that does not mean we the Eritrean people or our government got to baby sit them, or take their interests over our nation's interests.
For one you sound like you got some kind of personal issue going on with Fitsum. And if it is deemed that Fitsum (an Eritrean colonel) found out there is an intention to hurt Eritrea, not only by one of your opposition memebers (a foreigner) but even by an Eritrean for that matter have all the right to put them in jail or shoot them in the spot, and not Fitsum or Isayas has the obligation to tell the world why they did it. We are in a war footing and we are always guarding ourselves.
And as the co-operation you mentioned:
We are not asking your opposition members to fight our fights if we have a fight to conduct to. Your opposition groups are there for their benefit not Eritrea's benefit and thus, they should conduct them selves towards why they are being sheltered in Eritrea and quit medelling or telling us, if we have to have a good relationship after the downfall of woyane, we have to do this and that on their behalf.
Elias sorry to break the news, but yes majority of the Eritreans are like me, cautious but not arrogants or fools like you put it. And I refuse to call you an idiot, an arrogant and a fool for I know that you are not like majority of the scum bags of the memebers of your forum.
What kind of co-operation are you expecting from the GoE and your opposition groups? Take them to Addis using Eritreans buses and tanks like we did to the TPLF? Well, we will do that when they prove to them selves that they are worthy.
We gave them the horses and we provided them with the fields and it is upto them to gallop on it now.
If one or two bad apples are amongst them in our eyes, then you need to elect others to replace them and move on for we are not going to geoperdize our selves or interests for your comrades sake.
Rome was not built in one day as Eritrea was not freed in one day, and certainly it won't be because of one or two of your opposition members got arrested or got shot that woyane will not be ousted in one day.
Yes again I will say, "one can not have his cake and eat it too".

Red sea focking bekit shabia...you can run your mouth behind screen...the blood of these patriotic Ethiopians is in your hand. You are insider. You want to defend that ignorant tirb tigrea shabia named fitsum. Sooner or later him and you will face justice..[deleted].

And if it is deemed that Fitsum (an Eritrean colonel) found out there is an intention to hurt Eritrea, not only by one of your opposition memebers (a foreigner) but even by an Eritrean for that matter have all the right to put them in jail or shoot them in the spot, and not Fitsum or Isayas has the obligation to tell the world why they did it.

Such is called lawlessness and savagery. Every body has the right to due process of the law, even mass murderer like Meles Zenawi. If what you are saying is the norm in Eritrea, it is a nation of savages, not civilized people.

What kind of co-operation are you expecting from the GoE and your opposition groups? Take them to Addis using Eritreans buses and tanks like we did to the TPLF? Well, we will do that when they prove to them selves that they are worthy. We gave them the horses and we provided them with the fields and it is upto them to gallop on it now.

We don't need any thing from Eritrea except shelter and protection for the opposition leaders from the kind of things that's being done to them right now. What is happening is that Col. Fitsum is in charge of all the Ethiopian opposition groups who have shelters in Eritrea and he is preventing them from going into Ethiopia or any where. The opposition leaders are his hostages. They are not allowed to travel any where, he can arrest, torture, and kill them with impunity. I want to focus on Fitsum because I'm trying to localize the problem with the hope that the GoE will make corrections. As most others say, every thing Fitsum does may have been authorized by higher-ups, or it might be the policy of the GoE. I don't want to reach that conclusion just yet. No need to rush. At the same time, I am not going to remain silent when my comrades are arrested, tortured and killed by an Eritrean colonel without any reason or explanation.

Elias,

You keep blaming an obscure colonel when the entire shabo organization is a savage mafia junta. Do you expect some kind of redress for your grievances from these bastards. They are all as idiotic as their tyrant, Issahiyass. What's wrong with you, dude? I thought you had more sense.

[elias]

Elias,

You keep blaming an obscure colonel when the entire shabo organization is a savage mafia junta. Do you expect some kind of redress for your grievances from these bastards. They are all as idiotic as their tyrant, Issahiyass. What's wrong with you, dude? I thought you had more sense.

Awash,

What I am saying may sound gullible, but why should I give Woyanne the satisfaction? Woyannes want to drive a wedge between Ethiopians and the Eritrean governments, and Woyanne agents like Fitsum Yissehak are helping them from the inside by attacking Ethiopian patriots in Eritrea. I also have several friends in the GoE who are angry and disgusted by what the colonel is doing to Ethiopian opposition groups. Breaking my ties with them completely by attacking the whole Eritrean government brings no benefit to my cause of liberating Ethiopia from the Woyanne junta.

Elias,
These jokers will sell their own mothers. Look at what they did to their comrads of 30 years. shabo is a bizzare animal; there is no reflection, reconsideration, correction, admission, or redress. They're just gonna keep hitting the brick wall until they bash their heads to death. Save yourself from going down the drains with these losers; there is no light at the end of the shabo tunnel.

elias,

Amantu,
Mola is a brave Ethiopian. I met him in person and had a long conversation with him. But unfortunately, he is currently Col. Fitsum's hostage. He cannot leave any where without the permission of Col. Fitusm. He cannot even leave Eritrea to travel overseas. The money that will be collected for TPDM will be pocketed by Col. Fitsum. If Eritrean government is serious about supporting Ethiopian opposition groups, stop Col. Fitsum from using them as his personal piggy bank and free the leaders to travel freely. I believe it is important for Ethiopian opposition groups to work together with the Eritrean government, but not in a master-servant arrangement. This only creates resentment, suspicion, and animosity. It seems what the Eritrean government wants is the type of relation the Woyanne junta has with OPDO and other puppet groups.

so, you are still kicking the same drum. and your quote "I believe it is important for Ethiopian opposition groups to work together with the Eritrean government" clearly shows that you are a mentally challenged person. After so many have died, after so much money and time wasted - you still believe a donkey can fly. Slip this idea of yours to the soon to be created "transitional council in DC", which no doubt will choose awedeladay Tamagne as president of imagenery Ethiopia in the USA. That will defintely creates a stage for at least a 6 months of celebration and dancing in big cities all over North America. That is the new way of fighting the TPLF for moron#nic ethiopians. The money collected by the TPDM (a new version of the TPLF) will be pocketed by the regime of Issias Afeworki. Learn the fundamentals, in Ertirea nothing will be done with out the knowledge of Issias Afework a.k.a. stalin of Bahere negash.
I truly hate you. you are a disgusting anti ethiopian humanbeing.

Elias,

What lacks in Ethiopians political discourse is objectivity. Without going far, the absence of a united and strong opposition in diaspora is a manifestation of this deficiency. I said it many times, but I'll repeat it again- Perspective withers with a self-centered focus. And my friend Elias, those people whom you call your 'comrades' are the product of your society. They aren't sent to the Earth from the Almighty. They are fallible just like everybody. Woyane hasn't survived this long by its strength but by so many Ethiopian Hailu Shawels, Solomon Tekalegnes, Girma Woldegiogises, Girma Birrus, Biniam Kebedes.......

Anyhow, here is an excerpt from Wikileaks....

TPDM LEADERSHIP
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3. (SBU) A knowledgeable non-Eritrean embassy contact believes the
TPDM's new chairman is a man named Molla. The contact told Emboff
that the group strictly guards its leaders' names for fear of
reprisals against their families in Tigray. He said the TPDM does
not recruit recently escaped Ethiopian Tigray soldiers in Eritrea,
but rather recruits disgruntled Tigray youth from within Ethiopian
Tigray. The contact believes the group presently has several
hundred fighters.

TPDM EXPLOITS TRUMPETED ON ERITREAN TELEVISION
---------------------------------------------
4. (SBU) Very little open source information exists on the TPDM,
other than YouTube videos from Eri-TV broadcasts. These "news"
stories show interviews with TPDM fighters and extol the group's
exploits against the Ethiopian army. Emboff's cannot corroborate
any of these attacks. A well-placed non-Eritrean contact believes
that although Eri-TV reports on the TPDM's activities are
exaggerated, the organization is "alive and developing," and has the
potential to become "a real headache" for the TPLF.

[elias]

Elias,

What lacks in Ethiopians political discourse is objectivity. Without going far, the absence of a united and strong opposition in diaspora is a manifestation of this deficiency. I said it many times, but I'll repeat it again- Perspective withers with a self-centered focus. And my friend Elias, those people whom you call your 'comrades' are the product of your society. They aren't sent to the Earth from the Almighty. They are fallible just like everybody. Woyane hasn't survived this long by its strength but by so many Ethiopian Hailu Shawels, Solomon Tekalegnes, Girma Woldegiogises, Girma Birrus, Biniam Kebedes...

I completely agree that Woyanne is still in power because of the weakness of we the opposition. It's a known fact, but I am confident that some day soon things will change. We will get strong. The topic here is not the opposition's weakness, but why Ethiopian opposition leaders are being arrested, tortured and killed in Eritrea without any explanation? Can you answer me how that can benefit any one except Woyanne?

Elias said:
I completely agree that Woyanne is still in power because of the weakness of we the opposition. It's a known fact, but I am confident that some day soon things will change. We will get strong. The topic here is not the opposition's weakness, but why Ethiopian opposition leaders are being arrested, tortured and killed in Eritrea without any explanation? Can you answer me how that can benefit any one except Woyanne?

Elias ...Bingo. You hit the nail in the head. It is the lack of courage of your opposition groups and the dedication of you the people who hate the woyane regime, which is hindering your success.
Once you admit the weakness of your opposition groups you can not come back and say " the question is not the opposition's weakness" and bring Eritrea and its leadership in the mix.
Again, the Eritrean people and leadership are not obligated to tell you or any body why they arrest so and so. You just have to take it for your opposition groups are there not to do favor for Eritrea. Did it cross our mind that they could have broken Eritrean laws for an example? Did it cross your mind that the Eritrean leadership found out that there was some hiden agendas, some of the so called arrested persons have? If you are in my house you do it my way, or you get out of my house and do it your way from some one's house or your own house. It is that elementary. Again, you can not have your cake and eat it too. Eritrea is not forcing your opposition party to be in Eritrea to fight woyane. TPLF bit the finger which fed it after it situated itself comfortably in addis and you guys have nerves to bit the same fingers way before you even shoot a single bullet towards the woyanes? Amazing. Well, if I was you, I won't piss off the Eritrean leadership by such comments and accusations, unless "one" is a double agent.
If some one is in jail, I am going to take my government's side.
What we do in Eritrea is not surrounded by how woyane will precieve it to look like or to do things to benefit your opposition group if we have incling that it has some negative affect on our interests. We do things in prism of our intersts first and we will not care on whose head we should step on to accomplish that.
And like I told you in my earlier post, there is always Somalia that you can let host your opposition groups, but you chose us for a reason. So until you get what you want to achieve and you are basing your achievments can only be fruitfull if you side with Eritrea, be patient. From all the people of this forum, you should know how the Eritrean leadership functions. They are visionaries, they always plan their work and they always work thier plan.
The personal vendeta of some individual Eritrean person is consuming you alive.

Red Sea,

Because weyane betrayed Eritreans, It does not mean TPDM will also betray Eritreans. That is not how things work in politics. As Eritreans have invested heavily in TPLF so they can enter Addis, they have been training TPDM to judt do that and they will do it until TPDM gets to the Menelik Palace.

Amantu

amatu,

Once a loser, always a loser.