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Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby revelations » 07 Apr 2012, 14:18


Arat Kilo wrote:revealations,

what you have been preaching for the last so many years and go back to Ethiopia?


what i have been preaching the last so many years? and why me do i have to go to ethiopian and lead by example.


Arat Kilo

Your reply isn't saying much. Would you care to elaborate what you meant by your reply? What part of my question is not clear to you? I would like to help clarify if any part of my question is not clear and I hope you would take the time to elaborate on your reply to my question too.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Arat Kilo » 07 Apr 2012, 14:25


revealations,

you said,
what you have been preaching for the last so many years


what i have been preaching for the last so many years? you are the one who make the accusation and i am you to tell me what i have been preaching for the last so many years. and you asked to go back home and lead by example. why me?



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby revelations » 07 Apr 2012, 14:32


Arat Kilo wrote:revealations,

you said,
what you have been preaching for the last so many years


what i have been preaching for the last so many years? you are the one who make the accusation and i am you to tell me what i have been preaching for the last so many years. and you asked to go back home and lead by example. why me?


Arat Kilo

Even in this thread you insulted Ambassador Imru Zeleke for the statement he made about Amara's need to organize and told him to shut up or go back to Ethiopia and organize others. This is a statement you have consistently made in the past and now. I am asking you why you don't go back and lead by example with the assumption that you are a political opponent of TPLF.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Obamajr. » 07 Apr 2012, 14:39


Semira wrote:Three Tigraways responded so far. (halafi, bewendimu and Arat-qilo). obviously, such discussion is not a positive news for them. and should not be discussed here. Oj, with due respect, close this thread. whether they like it or not, things will go to the direction they don't want. no amount of looting and preparation will give them peace since they are taking the peace of many. and this we know and no discussion is needed in this regard

Semira-
Let them speak their mind, It is a free forum and we will respond to them the way they understand.
I have watched the video what you have told me and I am happy to bring it back over here. We are not going to surrender for those Weyane servants.


1-Ethnic Amhara Under Attack! Sheferaw Shegute 2012 -Make him known!
Sunday, April 1st, 2012

http://ecadforum.com/latest-news/12976/

2--STOP THE ETHNIC CLEANSING AND FORCED EXPULSION OF AMARAS FROM SOUTHERN ETHIOPIA
Tuesday, April 3rd, 2012

http://ecadforum.com/blog/2012/04/03/st ... -ethiopia/

3--A Campaign of Ethnic Cleansing Against Amhara (VOA)
Thursday, April 5th, 2012

http://ecadforum.com/2012/04/05/ethiopi ... mhara-voa/



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Adamu » 07 Apr 2012, 14:52


The history shows that, Amaras will never organize themselves. But, currently they are organized and support Weyane crimes in the pastoral areas!



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Obamajr. » 07 Apr 2012, 15:02


Adamu wrote:The history shows that, Amaras will never organize themselves. But, currently they are organized and support Weyane crimes in the pastoral areas!

Adamu-
:roll: Talk is cheap. If you have any kind evidence please post it over here and let us see how Amharas support Weyane crimes in the pastoral areas? Waiting for your response.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Obamajr. » 07 Apr 2012, 15:33


Bwendimu wrote:OJ

How many times you organize them?

Tell me who is not an Amhara in AAPO, in CUD....

BW-
Are you worried if Amhara Organized ? Those you mentioned above are not doing their job.. :roll: They are serving your master Ashebir. When those Amharas came to Addis to get help, no body care for them . Whether you like it or not Amharas must be organized by any means necessary to defend them selves against the tyrant regime. If Oromo people organized in order to take care of their people, why not Amharas? :roll: Remember Amharas are Ethiopian first.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby revolutions » 07 Apr 2012, 15:34


Semira wrote:Oj,

you brought interesting topic. but i know for sure this thread ends up in a dust bin or some trash talk since the majority of participants in this forum are Tigrayans and Eritreans. Don't expect positive response from tigrayans particularly since most of them are still working passionately for the distruction and genocide of amhara. Anyways, speaking of Amhara organizing itself, it is becoming a hot subject after TPLF displaced many Amharans from south. If you ask me, Amhara should organize itself for good and for the better. if you listen to the VOA and Duechevelle report, those who were displaced by TPLF faced extreme hardship even on their route to their home land and villages. most of them are forced to beg on the street to even get to Amhara region where they would eventually settle. There is no Amhara organization/civic group etc to help them in their dire situation. MEAD and Hailu shawel used them for their political consumption by taking pictures of this people with their organization logo. and we rule out MEAD/hailu shawel as the gaurdian for Amhara people despite the weyannes labelling of that group as amhara organization. They were warned that being a peacefull advocate there is more about legitimacy to The Tigray fashists than helping the poor and we have seen that they couldn't help or stop such act. hence their existence is no use at all.

The fate of the Amhara unless it organizes itself will be that of kurds. Kurdistan was one of the powerful mediaval kingdom in the past. Salah-adin who was a reknowned general that decimated the European crussaders was Kurdish. Amharans had Minilik who decimated a more powerful europian army. but that is history now. As the Kurds found themselves in 4 different countries (Turk, Iran, Syria and Iraq) as powerless minorities and persecution of their people is the norm, the fate of the Amhara if it is not organizing itself will be the same. we already have seen Welqait, Tsegede and Northern Wollo going to Tigray (the future country Abay-Tigray) and some already went to the Sudan. The same will be the case in south and east since TPLF will not go without making sure that the amhara is totally distroyed. Meles had said it openly that land ownership is forbidden in ethiopia by his constitution because he fears that the Amhara will own it. everything this people do is to cut Amhara into pieces and make it unusable hence i don't see why the amhara shouldn't organize to answer for that

For many native Amharas, Ethiopia still exist while in reality, Ethiopia is auctioned to foreigners in the form of neo-colonialism in which the amhara is being chased from every region just like a mad dog get chased from village to village. The common sense to that is to organize and do something than stuck in the ideology of unity, which proved futile and useless for the last 20 years.


As always, your comment is loaded with wisdom, facts and filled with practical insights into the topic of discussion. The issue of the Kurds which you've brought up as an example has really resonated with me since I know a thing or two about their plight, having taken some History classes in college. You couldn't have picked a better example to illustrate the seriousness of the issue facing the Amhara victims. Thank you.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Naga Tuma » 07 Apr 2012, 15:58


Semira wrote:Oj,

you brought interesting topic. but i know for sure this thread ends up in a dust bin or some trash talk since the majority of participants in this forum are Tigrayans and Eritreans. Don't expect positive response from tigrayans particularly since most of them are still working passionately for the distruction and genocide of amhara. Anyways, speaking of Amhara organizing itself, it is becoming a hot subject after TPLF displaced many Amharans from south. If you ask me, Amhara should organize itself for good and for the better. if you listen to the VOA and Duechevelle report, those who were displaced by TPLF faced extreme hardship even on their route to their home land and villages. most of them are forced to beg on the street to even get to Amhara region where they would eventually settle. There is no Amhara organization/civic group etc to help them in their dire situation. MEAD and Hailu shawel used them for their political consumption by taking pictures of this people with their organization logo. and we rule out MEAD/hailu shawel as the gaurdian for Amhara people despite the weyannes labelling of that group as amhara organization. They were warned that being a peacefull advocate there is more about legitimacy to The Tigray fashists than helping the poor and we have seen that they couldn't help or stop such act. hence their existence is no use at all.

The fate of the Amhara unless it organizes itself will be that of kurds. Kurdistan was one of the powerful mediaval kingdom in the past. Salah-adin who was a reknowned general that decimated the European crussaders was Kurdish. Amharans had Minilik who decimated a more powerful europian army. but that is history now. As the Kurds found themselves in 4 different countries (Turk, Iran, Syria and Iraq) as powerless minorities and persecution of their people is the norm, the fate of the Amhara if it is not organizing itself will be the same. we already have seen Welqait, Tsegede and Northern Wollo going to Tigray (the future country Abay-Tigray) and some already went to the Sudan. The same will be the case in south and east since TPLF will not go without making sure that the amhara is totally distroyed. Meles had said it openly that land ownership is forbidden in ethiopia by his constitution because he fears that the Amhara will own it. everything this people do is to cut Amhara into pieces and make it unusable hence i don't see why the amhara shouldn't organize to answer for that

For many native Amharas, Ethiopia still exist while in reality, Ethiopia is auctioned to foreigners in the form of neo-colonialism in which the amhara is being chased from every region just like a mad dog get chased from village to village. The common sense to that is to organize and do something than stuck in the ideology of unity, which proved futile and useless for the last 20 years.

You have unwittingly written two diametrically opposite theses, as you tried to impose your cadre's assignment to impress upon the Amharic speaking people in Ethiopia to go in the direction your bosses want them to go.

If for "many native Amharas, Ethiopia still exists," according your own stated opinion, then the right thing for the Amharic speakers to do is defend what they think still exists.

And I also think that the right thing to do for cadres like you, the endless lier OJ, the hypocrite revolution, and the slow processor Menelik, and so on is to defend the country and the rights of all the people who live in it. It is that simple but all the programmed cadres are unable to entangle themselves from it and set themselves be free citizens.
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Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby out for lunch » 07 Apr 2012, 15:58


Semira,

Great admiration for your educated and well laid out analysis. Arat Kilo can not be in the same category as amhara as you. :lol: I am not talking about the gray matter neither.

Peace

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