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Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Obamajr. » 07 Apr 2012, 16:00


revelations wrote:ኦጄ
ሙያ በልብ ነው! የምትችለውን አድርግ ባለህበት:: የምትችለውን እርዳ በሀገር ቤት:: ይሄንን ጉዳይ አስመልክቶ እዚህ በመወያየት የሚጨመር ወይንም የሚቀነስ ነገር የለም::

ሬቭ- አዎ እዉነትህን ነው- ሙያ በልብ ነው!
:roll: ያጣ ለማኝ ተሳድቦ ይሄዳል ይላሉ አባቶቻችን-

I just want to know those weyane servants action. I am waiting for Belay, Beles, Eden and YM whether they agree or disgree about the topics. We have been here together for long time and it is time to stand up for what we believe in. :) Thanks for your advice though.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Halafi Mengedi » 07 Apr 2012, 16:42


Tigray should loose power they way they got it. No one gave them free lunch and they should not give any free lunch to anyone.

What Tigrayan want to see is Amhara organized itself and push the wishy-washy Woyane leadership to take the decisive actions over due and bring all Tigrayans from Addis Ababa city and settle them in Gonder and Lalibela and kick out all Amhara from Adi Arkay and vicinities.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Arat Kilo » 07 Apr 2012, 17:18


revealation,

Arat Kilo
Even in this thread you insulted Ambassador Imru Zeleke for the statement he made about Amara's need to organize and told him to shut up or go back to Ethiopia and organize others. This is a statement you have consistently made in the past and now. I am asking you why you don't go back and lead by example with the assumption that you are a political opponent of TPLF.



now i see why you drop the "preaching' bomb. I am sure you have never heard me preach or declare a war in the diaspora on the radio, on television and newspapers. because i am no body. I don't have a poltical organization and i don't believe in poltical organization created or claim to wage a polticl struggle in the diaspora. I am on the record - against those who tried to bring the struggle out of Ethiopia to america. i am on the belief that all the diaspora can do is help those who are battling the woyannies day in and day out in ethiopia. but not to lead, dicate, guide and or sabotage from a comfortable life in the Diaspora. the oppressor, the opressed, the battle field and the solution is in ethiopia. for me those who are roaring in the diaspora and waiting stand by to assume power once the dust has settled are simply detractors but not warriors. my involvement in the poltical struggle "in Ethiopia' started as a supporter of those poltical organization that fought the woyannies during the 2005 election. to a degree we manage to play our role postively by supporting those in ethiopia. but when some self declared leaders in the diaspora started to derail our role things got out of control - the rest you know.

back to Ambassador imiru. he is the preacher but not me. this is not the first time he came out and tried to set the clock backward. at least in 3 occasions i heard him comment on the movement of the Amhara people and its leaders. Thanks to the great Prof. Asrat w/s the Amhara people organized themselves some 20 years ago and now they have evolved in to a national party. i don't think there will be a turning back to ethnic organization. so many have died and their families suffered fighting the Woyannie government in "Ethiopia". Now for him to come out and preach to ethiopians to create an Amhara organization to defend the Amhara people will not only bring the clock back but it is like spitting on those who died and sacrifce themselves to help all ethiopians the last 20 years. about two years ago he insulted the MEAD leaders letting the Amhara people down by interperting their method of struggle as a surrender. They are not perfect but he can go home and help them to do it right. Now, he said the Amhara people has to organize itself by creating an organization. And challenging Ambassador imiru who is preaching about creating an organizaton and to walk the talk is hardly preaching. asking the leaders of TAND, EPRP, G7,Ande Ethiopia, hibre hizbi (created in america and will die in america),Meason, AAPO,and so many to take the fight in ethiopia instead of giving false hope and war propaganda is not too much.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Adamu » 07 Apr 2012, 17:44


Obamajr; are teasing or have no idea on the Amara history and the ongoing crimes and genocide by Weyane leaders and cadres from Amara and Tigray in the Gambella, Ogaden, Afar, Oromiya, Banishangul-Gumuz and SNNP regions? How many people have been killed and displaced by this group? You need be realistic in your articles, and say the facts and support the victims in these regions! Ethiopians should be united and support each other!



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby out for lunch » 07 Apr 2012, 17:47


Arat kilo,

Here is a neighborly observation. You may not appreciate it. The organizations that you have mentioned within Ethiopia or not, are not on the record of uniting all Ethiopians. Most of the them belong to one ethnic albeit the claim of fighting for the unity of Ethiopia. TPLF seems to have an upper hand on every move they make. At the same time, the weyanes have been fighting through the grass roots to isolate one Ethnic group to the point of political extinction. That is the amhara group. Todays Amhara are practically yesterdays Oromos. Tomorrow could be worse. Twenty years and counting systematic elimination from political landscape takes its own toll. Semira has a point. You fight for your family, your community, perhaps even your ethnicity and then you let the chip fall where they may. Danger is ahead.

Peace



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Shalom » 07 Apr 2012, 17:50


Not only Amhara who has been continuously abused and dehumanized, but also other Ethiopian tribes need organize in order to defend itself from the Tigrian ravenous wolves.
Those common gangsters do not have any kind of human feeling or sympathy, but they are wild beasts, so nothing would stop them from acting the way they are right now except organized struggle.
Everyone in general, Amhara in particular should understand the long term plan of those beasts and have prepared itself before it is too late.
Amhara should not wait until they push him/her to the gas chamber as the Second World War Jews. We need to wake up and see the evil nature of our enemy.
Our enemies are merciless and do not hesitate to exterminate us and wipe out from the face of the earth, so we have two choices; either stand still and wait our death or fight back and crush the enemy.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Arat Kilo » 07 Apr 2012, 18:09


shalom,

Not only Amhara who has been continuously abused and dehumanized, but also other Ethiopian tribes need organize in order to defend itself from the Tigrian ravenous wolves.
Those common gangsters do not have any kind of human feeling or sympathy, but they are wild beasts, so nothing would stop them from acting the way they are right now except organized struggle.
Everyone in general, Amhara in particular should understand the long term plan of those beasts and have prepared itself before it is too late.
Amhara should not wait until they push him/her to the gas chamber as the Second World War Jews. We need to wake up and see the evil nature of our enemy.
Our enemies are merciless and do not hesitate to exterminate us and wipe out from the face of the earth, so we have two choices; either stand still and wait our death or fight back and crush the enemy.


what you said above is correct. but the thread is about creating a new amhara organization to protect the amhara people. creating another organization adding to the list of the many poltical organization that exists in ethiopia. and the suggestion come from some one who is a resident of the USA.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Shalom » 07 Apr 2012, 18:22


Semira wrote:Oj,

you brought interesting topic. but i know for sure this thread ends up in a dust bin or some trash talk since the majority of participants in this forum are Tigrayans and Eritreans. Don't expect positive response from tigrayans particularly since most of them are still working passionately for the distruction and genocide of amhara. Anyways, speaking of Amhara organizing itself, it is becoming a hot subject after TPLF displaced many Amharans from south. If you ask me, Amhara should organize itself for good and for the better. if you listen to the VOA and Duechevelle report, those who were displaced by TPLF faced extreme hardship even on their route to their home land and villages. most of them are forced to beg on the street to even get to Amhara region where they would eventually settle. There is no Amhara organization/civic group etc to help them in their dire situation. MEAD and Hailu shawel used them for their political consumption by taking pictures of this people with their organization logo. and we rule out MEAD/hailu shawel as the gaurdian for Amhara people despite the weyannes labelling of that group as amhara organization. They were warned that being a peacefull advocate there is more about legitimacy to The Tigray fashists than helping the poor and we have seen that they couldn't help or stop such act. hence their existence is no use at all.

The fate of the Amhara unless it organizes itself will be that of kurds. Kurdistan was one of the powerful mediaval kingdom in the past. Salah-adin who was a reknowned general that decimated the European crussaders was Kurdish. Amharans had Minilik who decimated a more powerful europian army. but that is history now. As the Kurds found themselves in 4 different countries (Turk, Iran, Syria and Iraq) as powerless minorities and persecution of their people is the norm, the fate of the Amhara if it is not organizing itself will be the same. we already have seen Welqait, Tsegede and Northern Wollo going to Tigray (the future country Abay-Tigray) and some already went to the Sudan. The same will be the case in south and east since TPLF will not go without making sure that the amhara is totally distroyed. Meles had said it openly that land ownership is forbidden in ethiopia by his constitution because he fears that the Amhara will own it. everything this people do is to cut Amhara into pieces and make it unusable hence i don't see why the amhara shouldn't organize to answer for that

For many native Amharas, Ethiopia still exist while in reality, Ethiopia is auctioned to foreigners in the form of neo-colonialism in which the amhara is being chased from every region just like a mad dog get chased from village to village. The common sense to that is to organize and do something than stuck in the ideology of unity, which proved futile and useless for the last 20 years.

Semira,
Great point, of course Amhara has been silent and waiting with patient, but what we have gotten is humiliation, abuse and persecution by those who hate us (the Tigrian gangsters and their collaborators).
What we are waiting seems awkward, because the enemies have never stopped persecuting, abusing and belittling us, so what is the meaning of our silent. Is it pure cowardice behavior or denying the obvious truth?
The enemies (the Tigrian gangsters and their collaborators) openly declared war against us and force us to be second citizen in our own country. They deprived our liberty, and prevent us from participating in any economic, political and social sectors. We become secluded wolves in our own country.
The Tigrians attach the name cowardice on us and belittle and undermine our humanity. So what is left for us? Surely, the dead seems better than today’s Amhara.
Nothing would solve such kind of problem, unless the haters have face equal or superior power form the hated.
Hate based politics should be crushed; otherwise there is no other antidote for it.
So, the only choice the people of Amhara have is that either stands still and waits his/her final fate on the hand of its enemy or fight back and declares it liberty.
There is no peaceful or non-violent struggle as well as compromising with the children of Satan who are scarifying human being for their insatiable greed.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Shalom » 07 Apr 2012, 18:36


Arat Kilo wrote:shalom,

Not only Amhara who has been continuously abused and dehumanized, but also other Ethiopian tribes need organize in order to defend itself from the Tigrian ravenous wolves.
Those common gangsters do not have any kind of human feeling or sympathy, but they are wild beasts, so nothing would stop them from acting the way they are right now except organized struggle.
Everyone in general, Amhara in particular should understand the long term plan of those beasts and have prepared itself before it is too late.
Amhara should not wait until they push him/her to the gas chamber as the Second World War Jews. We need to wake up and see the evil nature of our enemy.
Our enemies are merciless and do not hesitate to exterminate us and wipe out from the face of the earth, so we have two choices; either stand still and wait our death or fight back and crush the enemy.


what you said above is correct. but the thread is about creating a new amhara organization to protect the amhara people. creating another organization adding to the list of the many poltical organization that exists in ethiopia. and the suggestion come from some one who is a resident of the USA.

Arat Kilo,
As long as the current Amhara organization able to defend its citizens, it seems unnecessary to create a new one. However, we have not seen any defending major taken by anyone, when the Tigrian gangsters and their collaborators removed the poor and defenseless Amharas from the place they have been more than three generation.
The Tigrian gangsters are practicing the same cruel act as their grandfather; Hitler did to the poor European Jews. First he relocates them and later he savagely put them in the gas chamber.
Do you know the reason why there is no state sponsor attack against the Jews at this time? Surely, you know it, but if not, because the Zionist are well organized with a country which has several nuclear bomb.
Amhara need to learn from the Zionist and have organized itself.
The Jews are surrounded by their mortal enemies, but their organization inside as well as outside the country gives them the upper hand and respect.
Amhara needs a courageous citizen like the Zionist Theodor Herzl.
Organization is not inside the country only, but wherever we are.



Re: Should Amhara Organize?

Postby Obamajr. » 07 Apr 2012, 18:44


Adamu wrote:Obamajr; are teasing or have no idea on the Amara history and the ongoing crimes and genocide by Weyane leaders and cadres from Amara and Tigray in the Gambella, Ogaden, Afar, Oromiya, Banishangul-Gumuz and SNNP regions? How many people have been killed and displaced by this group? You need be realistic in your articles, and say the facts and support the victims in these regions! Ethiopians should be united and support each other!

Adamu- who is teasing who please? I was born in Amahra region and I will die as an Ethiopian first and Amhara second. Let us stop the bullshit first. I haven't said Ethiopia shouldn't be united. I have said Amahra has to be organized and defend our selves from this tyrant leader Ashebir. Amhara has done so many good things to our country for long time. It is time now to stand up and defend our selves by any means we can. We are not going to take the govt but we want to support and defend our selves in any way we can. I agree one thing with you though. Ethiopia needs a better organized and a brave person to stand up against the Weyane regime. That person, we haven't found him yet. We have to stop blaming each other for our misery and united as an Ethiopian with one leader and do our job for the sake our country as well as for our people. :roll: አህያ የሌለው በቅሎ ይንቃል

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