Oj,

you brought interesting topic. but i know for sure this thread ends up in a dust bin or some trash talk since the majority of participants in this forum are Tigrayans and Eritreans. Don't expect positive response from tigrayans particularly since most of them are still working passionately for the distruction and genocide of amhara. Anyways, speaking of Amhara organizing itself, it is becoming a hot subject after TPLF displaced many Amharans from south. If you ask me, Amhara should organize itself for good and for the better. if you listen to the VOA and Duechevelle report, those who were displaced by TPLF faced extreme hardship even on their route to their home land and villages. most of them are forced to beg on the street to even get to Amhara region where they would eventually settle. There is no Amhara organization/civic group etc to help them in their dire situation. MEAD and Hailu shawel used them for their political consumption by taking pictures of this people with their organization logo. and we rule out MEAD/hailu shawel as the gaurdian for Amhara people despite the weyannes labelling of that group as amhara organization. They were warned that being a peacefull advocate there is more about legitimacy to The Tigray fashists than helping the poor and we have seen that they couldn't help or stop such act. hence their existence is no use at all.

Semira
Ato Hailu Shawel is a joke and the rest of Amhara leaders who are living in Ethiopia too. I agree with you when those Amharas went to the Church as well as to those Amhara leaders, they have done nothing. It is fact and I have watched the video my self and I was completely shocked. In their own country, they have no right to live and take care of their family.

The fate of the Amhara unless it organizes itself will be that of kurds. Kurdistan was one of the powerful mediaval kingdom in the past. Salah-adin who was a reknowned general that decimated the European crussaders was Kurdish. Amharans had Minilik who decimated a more powerful europian army. but that is history now. As the Kurds found themselves in 4 different countries (Turk, Iran, Syria and Iraq) as powerless minorities and persecution of their people is the norm, the fate of the Amhara if it is not organizing itself will be the same. we already have seen Welqait, Tsegede and Northern Wollo going to Tigray (the future country Abay-Tigray) and some already went to the Sudan. The same will be the case in south and east since TPLF will not go without making sure that the amhara is totally distroyed. Meles had said it openly that land ownership is forbidden in ethiopia by his constitution because he fears that the Amhara will own it. everything this people do is to cut Amhara into pieces and make it unusable hence i don't see why the amhara shouldn't organize to answer for that

It is true Ashebir already declared that no body is going to own a land any more. Worst than Haile and Mengistu. At least these two ex leaders brought Ethiopia under one flag and tried their best to bring every one in their leadership. Ashebir is doing the opposite. He invented his own flag and he doesn't give a [deleted] to any Ethnics groups unless they kiss his sorry azz.

For many native Amharas, Ethiopia still exist while in reality, Ethiopia is auctioned to foreigners in the form of neo-colonialism in which the amhara is being chased from every region just like a mad dog get chased from village to village. The common sense to that is to organize and do something than stuck in the ideology of unity, which proved futile and useless for the last 20 years.

I agree completely with you. We Amharas have to be organized and take our problem first before we help others. I do beieve also all Ethiopians who ever they are have to be organized and support their people before they help others. We all believe Ethiopia is first no matter what condition we are. We don't need a piece of land nor take over the whole country by our selves. Ethiopia belongs to all of us not only for the few elites.
Still I am waiting to hear from our Tigray brothers, Eden, Beles, Belay/M, YM


Gibont 7 Condemns the Forced Expulsion of Amharas from Southern Ethiopia and the Desecration of Waldeba Monastery
April 3, 2012 |
http://www.ginbot7.org/2012/04/03/ginbo ... wi-regime/

We have to stop blaming each other for our misery and united as an Ethiopian with one leader and do our job for the sake our country as well as for our people. አህያ የሌለው በቅሎ ይንቃል

I know you avoid answering my questions. I will ask you anyway. You say that we have to stop blaming each other and be united as Ethiopians and do our jobs for the sake of our country and people. Then why did you start this thread, asking if Amharic speakers should be organized. Your lie here couldn't outlive your own thread.

revealation,

Arat Kilo
Even in this thread you insulted Ambassador Imru Zeleke for the statement he made about Amara's need to organize and told him to shut up or go back to Ethiopia and organize others. This is a statement you have consistently made in the past and now. I am asking you why you don't go back and lead by example with the assumption that you are a political opponent of TPLF.

now i see why you drop the "preaching' bomb. I am sure you have never heard me preach or declare a war in the diaspora on the radio, on television and newspapers. because i am no body.

I fail to see your point here. May be you will elaborate and educate me.

I don't have a poltical organization and i don't believe in poltical organization created or claim to wage a polticl struggle in the diaspora.

I didn't say you did. Thank you for the clarification though. it never hurts.

I am on the record - against those who tried to bring the struggle out of Ethiopia to america.

I fail to see how this relates to this thread or on what ambassador Imru Zeleke had said.

i am on the belief that all the diaspora can do is help those who are battling the woyannies day in and day out in ethiopia. but not to lead, dicate, guide and or sabotage from a comfortable life in the Diaspora.

I guess you are convinced that what the ambassador proposed leads to what you stated. May be you will be kind enough to present us with more data that supports your assertion.

the oppressor, the opressed, the battle field and the solution is in ethiopia.

No one will deny that.

for me those who are roaring in the diaspora and waiting stand by to assume power once the dust has settled are simply detractors but not warriors.

Based on this statement, once anyone leaves Ethiopia due to political persecution or any other reason, they have to abstain from all political activities until they find someone they can support back home. If for whatever reason they don't find such an organization, they will have to stay quite. Am I correct?

my involvement in the poltical struggle "in Ethiopia' started as a supporter of those poltical organization that fought the woyannies during the 2005 election. to a degree we manage to play our role postively by supporting those in ethiopia. but when some self declared leaders in the diaspora started to derail our role things got out of control - the rest you know.

So what do you suggest?

back to Ambassador imiru. he is the preacher but not me. this is not the first time he came out and tried to set the clock backward. at least in 3 occasions i heard him comment on the movement of the Amhara people and its leaders.

What did he say that had so offended you?

Thanks to the great Prof. Asrat w/s the Amhara people organized themselves some 20 years ago and now they have evolved in to a national party. i don't think there will be a turning back to ethnic organization. so many have died and their families suffered fighting the Woyannie government in "Ethiopia". Now for him to come out and preach to ethiopians to create an Amhara organization to defend the Amhara people will not only bring the clock back but it is like spitting on those who died and sacrifce themselves to help all ethiopians the last 20 years.

I heard his interview but did not hear what you are alleging here. Since you have a different statement than what I have heard, can you bring it hear and share it with everyone?

about two years ago he insulted the MEAD leaders letting the Amhara people down by interperting their method of struggle as a surrender. They are not perfect but he can go home and help them to do it right. Now, he said the Amhara people has to organize itself by creating an organization. And challenging Ambassador imiru who is preaching about creating an organizaton and to walk the talk is hardly preaching. asking the leaders of TAND, EPRP, G7,Ande Ethiopia, hibre hizbi (created in america and will die in america),Meason, AAPO,and so many to take the fight in ethiopia instead of giving false hope and war propaganda is not too much.

I take it that you are mad at him for criticizing certain leader/leaders you support. Why is that?

We have to stop blaming each other for our misery and united as an Ethiopian with one leader and do our job for the sake our country as well as for our people. አህያ የሌለው በቅሎ ይንቃል

I know you avoid answering my questions. I will ask you anyway. You say that we have to stop blaming each other and be united as Ethiopians and do our jobs for the sake of our country and people. Then why did you start this thread, asking if Amharic speakers should be organized. Your lie here couldn't outlive your own thread.

Why I have to avoid your question? You are ranting for no reason that is why I ignored you. Don't you ever try to insult me . If you behave like a civilized man, I will be more welcome to answer your question. If you act like stupid, I will ignore you again. What is your question again?

We have to stop blaming each other for our misery and united as an Ethiopian with one leader and do our job for the sake our country as well as for our people. አህያ የሌለው በቅሎ ይንቃል

I know you avoid answering my questions. I will ask you anyway. You say that we have to stop blaming each other and be united as Ethiopians and do our jobs for the sake of our country and people. Then why did you start this thread, asking if Amharic speakers should be organized. Your lie here couldn't outlive your own thread.

Why I have to avoid your question? You are ranting for no reason that is why I ignored you. Don't you ever try to insult me . If you behave like a civilized man, I will be more welcome to answer your question. If you act like stupid, I will ignore you again. What is your question again?

You avoid my questions, as you have done it here even if you couldn't hide your emotion, because I think that you fear them the most. You are one of the cheapest characters I have ever read. Your dishonesty is endless. Civilization and civility are far from what you do on this forum, and I think you will have a rude awakening to it some day. And I don't think that your "Ashebir" boss will be your face saver.

Why I have to avoid your question? You are ranting for no reason that is why I ignored you. Don't you ever try to insult me . If you behave like a civilized man, I will be more welcome to answer your question. If you act like stupid, I will ignore you again. What is your question again?

You avoid my questions, as you have done it here even if you couldn't hide your emotion, because I think that you fear them the most. You are one of the cheapest characters I have ever read. Your dishonesty is endless. Civilization and civility are far from what you do on this forum, and I think you will have a rude awakening to it some day. And I don't think that your "Ashebir" boss will be your face saver.

If you open your filthy mouth one more time, you will deserve to be insult. ባለጌ -አይ ሆፕ- ዮ- አንደርስታንድ አምሃሪክ

You avoid my questions, as you have done it here even if you couldn't hide your emotion, because I think that you fear them the most. You are one of the cheapest characters I have ever read. Your dishonesty is endless. Civilization and civility are far from what you do on this forum, and I think you will have a rude awakening to it some day. And I don't think that your "Ashebir" boss will be your face saver.

Naga Tuma

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well said.

You avoid my questions, as you have done it here even if you couldn't hide your emotion, because I think that you fear them the most. You are one of the cheapest characters I have ever read. Your dishonesty is endless. Civilization and civility are far from what you do on this forum, and I think you will have a rude awakening to it some day. And I don't think that your "Ashebir" boss will be your face saver.

Naga Tuma

Posts: 1232
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:27 am

well said.

Fessso - I have tried to respect your @game brother but he is going out of control and he will be payed as he starts opening his sorry azz mouth. He better learn from. Tuhanam weyane monkey like you will not silence me in this forum. It is up to him now to follow you or shut his sorry azz mouth and be civilized.

Civilization and civility are far from what you do on this forum

Civilization and civility are far from what you do on this forum

I have never insult any one at first. But when they open their filthy mouth like you do , it is my responsibility to pay them back. Now don't change the subject just answer the question if you think you have the capacity to do so. Your name was on first place, for some reason you are waiting from your masters to get the green light.