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Re: ERITREANISM - ONE PEOPLE & ONE HEART

Postby Akele » 14 Apr 2012, 15:57


beles you're talking with robots.



Re: ERITREANISM - ONE PEOPLE & ONE HEART

Postby quindibu » 14 Apr 2012, 16:19


Beles wrote:Ethiopianism is about unity and finding common grounds for every human being irrespective of differences. Eritreanism is the opposite of it. It looks for differences, fault lines. Eritreanists need adversary to co-exist else finding fault-lines and differences turns inward to continue down to family and individual level. In fact the only way out of it is the inevitable implosion


Simply, the message is Ethiopianism is good and Eritreanism is bad, right? Yep, everything is black and white, my friend. Didn't know the people in power in Ethiopia currently are Eritreans. Nor was I aware that successive Ethiopian leaders were Eritreans who were fond of Eritreanism:lol: Hell, we finally figured out the scrooge which has been lurking over your people for the last ''3000 years'' for you not to get it right in managing your own affairs- the evil Eritreanism! Damn it! Even those who were displaced from the south might be victims of these boogeymen. And I can't thank you enough for just conforming my suspicion that Shigute Sheferaw could be Eritrean too? Who knows?

Anyhow, let me borrow some words from the often eloquent Yilma Bekele:

''Tell me who buys stolen plots of land? Who flies Ethiopian Airlines? Who party’s in Addis among the starving? Who invests in hotels and brothels from Mekele to Moyale? Who turns a blind eye when the Anuaks are massacred in Gambella, the Amharas displaced from Benji Maji, the Oromos imprisoned in mass, the little girls sold into slavery in the Middle East? Don’t tell me you did not know. You knew but you choose to keep silent....

No one compels us to do this or that. We are free to choose. Thus when we split our Church, when we disrespect our leaders be it Community or Party we are making a choice. When we speak ill of each other and when we hurt each other with venomous language it is a choice we each make. When we invest in Woyane land, buy stolen property, turn our faces away when we see our people being abused we are making a choice. No need to look at your neighbor. You ladies and gentlemen have to answer for your own actions.



Re: ERITREANISM - ONE PEOPLE & ONE HEART

Postby Naga Tuma » 14 Apr 2012, 16:42


Beles wrote:
Conformist wrote:
EritreanLoveAll wrote:Thank you!!
Hope Ethiopians get United and Kick out People Like Halafi and Abel to The dry land called Tigray.

It was the Derg's attempts to keep Ethiopia that created the Woyane monster in the first place. It is Ethiopian unity that sustains Woyane today.
How do you unite Ogaden Somalis with Amharas, when we don't even speak the same language or follow the same religion.


Conf.
Without realizing you defined very well Eritreanism and it's opposite ideology Ethiopianism. Ethiopianism is about unity and finding common grounds for every human being irrespective of differences. Eritreanism is the opposite of it. It looks for differences, fault lines. Eritreanists need adversary to co-exist else finding fault-lines and differences turns inward to continue down to family and individual level. In fact the only way out of it is the inevitable implosion.

Both of this ideologies are predatory in nature. Ethiopianism can not stand disunity and infectious. Eritreanism can not stand unity and given the right circumstances as infectious. That is why I told you previously this two ideologies can not co-exist side by side. One will destroy the other. That is why an Eritrean rooting for Ethiopian unity is oxymoron.

I am sure you will explode on me now but there is no point. I just tell it as I see it. The war between Ethiopianism and Eritreanism will rage until one or the other is destroyed.

Are you afraid to say what you think is the right thing to say because someone would "explode on you," to use your own phrase? You have positively funny lines, such as "an Eritrean rooting for Ethiopian unity is oxymoron." Then, can we assume some Eritreans are doing Mussolini's unfinished business? BTW, I am sure there are some Eritreans who genuinely think they are part of historical Ethiopia.



Re: ERITREANISM - ONE PEOPLE & ONE HEART

Postby eden » 14 Apr 2012, 16:49


I am sure there are some Eritreans who genuinely think they are part of historical Ethiopia.


why state the obvious?



Re: ERITREANISM - ONE PEOPLE & ONE HEART

Postby Conformist » 14 Apr 2012, 17:38


Beles wrote:I am sure you will explode on me now but there is no point. I just tell it as I see it. The war between Ethiopianism and Eritreanism will rage until one or the other is destroyed.
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I have no desire to participate in such a war, I'd rather expend my energy working for a way to improve the lot of my kind.



Re: ERITREANISM - ONE PEOPLE & ONE HEART

Postby out for lunch » 14 Apr 2012, 20:02


Beles,

Who said I am here to discuss with you! I am just being honest. You are an idiot and a coward I might add. I can substantiate it with your prior postings. BTW, who was that hero of yours who turned out to be weyanes buchilla ? Was that LIDETU whom you claimed to be the next savior of Ethiopia !! I despise cowards. :P

Peace



Re: ERITREANISM - ONE PEOPLE & ONE HEART

Postby Beles » 16 Apr 2012, 00:12


quindibu wrote:Didn't know the people in power in Ethiopia currently are Eritreans. Nor was I aware that successive Ethiopian leaders were Eritreans who were fond of Eritreanism:lol: Hell, we finally figured out the scrooge which has been lurking over your people for the last ''3000 years'' for you not to get it right in managing your own affairs- the evil Eritreanism! Damn it! Even those who were displaced from the south might be victims of these boogeymen. And I can't thank you enough for just conforming my suspicion that Shigute Sheferaw could be Eritrean too? Who knows?


Never mind the sarcasm but you are correct. Eritreanism has nothing to do with Ethnicity as too is Ethiopianism. It is a way of thinking. It is an acquired belief not some thing you are born with. Both of them were a means to power by the elite. Ethiopianism was a means to consolidate power and territory by the emperors and their followers at the expense of local kings and strong men. Either they joined the unity and become vassals or squashed. In the name of unity local administration was chipped away especially in Hailesilase and Mengistu's era.

And it is that weakness of Ethiopianism that become a fertile ground for the growth of Eritreanism. Again it was and remains a means to power. Italians coined the term and gave it a physical presence (territory and community) to undue the unifying effect of Ethiopianism. (There is historical evidence for that). And the **LFs fallowed suite because that is the only way to dislodge the rulers who are sitting in the name of unity and become a ruler.

To be an Eritreansit you don't even need to be born within the Ethiopian territory. Powel Kagame and his followers of Rwanda are good examples. And yes Shiferw Shigute, Meles Zenawi...etc all are Eritreanists.

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