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☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby revolutions » 20 Apr 2012, 07:08



Since 1996 over 6 million people got killed in the Congo and no one talks about it. Is it because the victims are black? The Hutu militia who committed the 1994 genocide in Rwanda crossed over into neighboring Congo and they have been massacring millions of Congolese and raping their women and girls with total impunity. The United Nations is silent about these killings because most European countries are looting the rich minerals found in the Congo. The same thing is also happening in Southern, Eastern and Western parts of Ethiopia where thousands of people are being massacred by the genocidal TPLF regime, but the international community would rather turn a blind eye to the Ethiopian Holocaust and talk about the 3000 people killed in Syria's civil war instead. This is the kind of world we're living in.
Watch this.....


The Black Holocaust in Africa
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LJqlevd-vA

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Re: ☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby Oromay » 20 Apr 2012, 09:28


Thanks for bringing this video to our attention. At the very least awareness is necessary. I am sad for the Congolese people. It is tragic they are denied a space to formulate and create a viable state that protects its peoples interests. All those greedy leaders make the job of the West easier. I for one think the U.S. is as evil as it can get. But the solution lies in Africa. The network of slave leaders need to be broken. It will definitely take time and blood. But it is going to happen sooner rather than later.



Re: ☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby Conformist » 20 Apr 2012, 09:40


revolutions wrote:Since 1996 over 6 million people got killed in the Congo and no one talks about it.



The world is not ignorant of the horrors that are going on in Congo, moreover the world is silent, not because of racism, but by necessity. The Congolese are breeding too fast, if left alone they will not restrain their population growth and will cause a lot of trouble for themselves and others. As you pointed out millions have perished in Congo since the fall of Mobutu, but even with that, they have managed to take the 25th highest place in population growth in the world.

The solution to the African holocaust is simple, restrict reproduction to two children per family, otherwise the holocausts will continue and no one will care. Africans have their destiny in their hands, they better act responsibly.



Re: ☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby Oromay » 20 Apr 2012, 09:53


Conformist wrote:
revolutions wrote:Since 1996 over 6 million people got killed in the Congo and no one talks about it.



The world is not ignorant of the horrors that are going on in Congo, moreover the world is silent, not because of racism, but by necessity. The Congolese are breeding too fast, if left alone they will not restrain their population growth and will cause a lot of trouble for themselves and others. As you pointed out millions have perished in Congo since the fall of Mobutu, but even with that, they have managed to take the 25th highest place in population growth in the world.

The solution to the African holocaust is simple, restrict reproduction to two children per family, otherwise the holocausts will continue and no one will care. Africans have their destiny in their hands, they better act responsibly.


Dear Conformist,

Sometimes your comments are insensitive to the victims. For your information, Congo can feed the whole Africa and the middle east single handedely. On your own admission Congo is ranked 25th highest for population growth in the world. So naturally if this is the reason for their plight, then I would expect at least another 24 countries in the world to face similar or much worse fate than the Congolese are facing. Can you enlighten me the other 24 countries facing the same or more consequences than Congo?



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Postby Conformist » 20 Apr 2012, 10:40


Oromay wrote:For your information, Congo can feed the whole Africa and the middle east single handedely.


They can't feed the world with words, they have fertile land but not the fertile minds to organize farms and infrastructure. They spent half a century blaming colonialism for their failures without making any effort to change their situation. This world doesn't forgive such gross errors, if people like the Congolese fail to get their act together, they will be replaced by better people.

On your own admission Congo is ranked 25th highest for population growth in the world. So naturally if this is the reason for their plight, then I would expect at least another 24 countries in the world to face similar or much worse fate than the Congolese are facing. Can you enlighten me the other 24 countries facing the same or more consequences than Congo?


Some of the Nations with highest population growth are, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Uganda, Burundi, Rwanda, Liberia, Gaza Strip etc ... and they are all facing serious troubles.

Some of the Nations with lowest population growth are, Austria, Belgium, Japan, Finland, Switzerland etc ... and they are all doing well.

It is not difficult to see what a terrible national curse a high population growth rate can be. Fewer children brought up better is the way to secure a better future for Africa. This is not new knowledge, we have known it for decades, but only Africans are resisting this knowledge.



Re: ☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby Oromay » 20 Apr 2012, 18:58


Conformist wrote:
They can't feed the world with words, they have fertile land but not the fertile minds to organize farms and infrastructure. They spent half a century blaming colonialism for their failures without making any effort to change their situation. This world doesn't forgive such gross errors, if people like the Congolese fail to get their act together, they will be replaced by better people.


The same goes to Ethiopia. According to you Ethiopias failure to organise farms and infrastructure implies that Ethiopians have infertile minds. That is self-hating and forgive me, this kind of thinking might lead to psychological condition.
Although I agree Africans should not dwell on blaming colonialism, I find it just shocking that you consider half a century very long in relation to colonialism. It is just ended (some argue it is not ended) half a generation ago and you seem to undermine its catastroph in Africa. The majority of the problem in Africa emanated from colonialism. If you think Africans should cure the disease of centuries of colonial rule in half a century, it is just a dream. Unlike your claim though, Congolese tried their best. We all know who the CIA (US) intervened to create more problems. So we just moved from visible to invisible colonialism. What you are doing is just like blaming a rape victim why she was born a woman.


Some of the Nations with highest population growth are, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Uganda, Burundi, Rwanda, Liberia, Gaza Strip etc ... and they are all facing serious troubles.

Some of the Nations with lowest population growth are, Austria, Belgium, Japan, Finland, Switzerland etc ... and they are all doing well.

It is not difficult to see what a terrible national curse a high population growth rate can be. Fewer children brought up better is the way to secure a better future for Africa. This is not new knowledge, we have known it for decades, but only Africans are resisting this knowledge.


I think you are assuming that population growth is the sole or the biggest problem. Lets take Ethiopia for instance, as we all know the situation better. If we go back to 50 years ago when the population was less than half of what is today, all the current problems in Ethiopia were existent at that time. Famine was widespread even though the population was few. So the main causes for the problems are bad governance, policies, dictatorship, ethnic politics, corruption, etc. All those variables are unchanged while the variable 'population growth' always changes.

If you are relating population growth with poverty and hunger, we all know the world can still sustain the current population growth. Food is abundant in the world. Distribution and trade barrier is the problem. Even if you argue population growth is the reason for poverty, which I may agree to some degree, I do not agree the correlation indicates causality . In contrary poverty is the cause of population growth as children are considered assets in Africa. As household working force and insurance to the parents when they get older.

I summary, there is enough land and resources in countries such as Ethiopia and Congo, what is lacking is competent government. But the current regimes are not only slaves but also instrument of enslaving the minds of their own people. Enslaved mind says white is saint and black is devil.



Re: ☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby Conformist » 20 Apr 2012, 21:14


Oromay wrote:
According to you Ethiopias failure to organise farms and infrastructure implies that Ethiopians have infertile minds.


Failures can not blamed on others, he who fails would do himself a great favor to blame himself for it. Ethiopia is a failure today, for one simple reasons, the majority of Ethiopians lack the mental skills to take care of their affairs. The majority of Ethiopians have very low IQ, they don't even have a knowledge of basic hygiene to fight diseases. Ethiopians may be good at bragging about a 3000 years history that belongs to a people who died long ago, but today it is a shameful situation.

Although I agree Africans should not dwell on blaming colonialism, I find it just shocking that you consider half a century very long in relation to colonialism.


What I am saying goes beyond that, Africa's failure has nothing to do with colonialism. Africans are not the only people to be colonised, most of Asia was colonized, all of South America was colonised, all of the Mideast was colonised. today all the former colonies are moving forward, except sub-saharan Africa. Colonialsim has nothing to do with success or failure, in fact colonialsim is being used as the excuse to cover up the failures of the sub-saharan nations.

It is just ended (some argue it is not ended) half a generation ago and you seem to undermine its catastroph in Africa. The majority of the problem in Africa emanated from colonialism.


The thievery of Mobutu, the endless cruelities of the Congolese military, the rapes, murders and tortures can not blamed on colonialsim. The men are just born to be cruel. Just look at the mass rapes that are going on in Congo today, it is impossible for a belgian colonilasm that ended half a century ago to cause the men to commit mass rape at such a scale.

If you think Africans should cure the disease of centuries of colonial rule in half a century, it is just a dream.


Either they will cure it like all other former colonies have done, or it won't be cured. The italians have inflicted much greater atrocities against the Libyans than the Beligians did in Congo, but Libya is no Congo today, even after it was mercilessly bombed by NATO just last year.

Unlike your claim though, Congolese tried their best. We all know who the CIA (US) intervened to create more problems. So we just moved from visible to invisible colonialism. What you are doing is just like blaming a rape victim why she was born a woman.


The CIA intervenes everywhere, there is no country in the world that is not affected by CIA machinations, but only the Congolese are using that as an excuse for their failure.

Read the following CNN article titled, "Why eastern DR Congo is 'rape capital of the world' "
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/24/world/afr ... index.html

can such mass rapes be blamed on CIA or Belgian colonialism?

I think you are assuming that population growth is the sole or the biggest problem.


I didn't say overpopulation is the "only" problem, but it is at the top. But the thrust of my argument is, where there is great overpopulation, human life is cheap.

50 years ago Ethiopia was overpopulated, as shown by its inability to feed itself even then. But today the problem has reached deadly proportions, the only reason tens of millions Ethiopians are not dying of starvation is because of food aid. Homosexuality is increasing in Ethiopia, there is too much prostitution, women are sold into slavery in Arab countries, all because there are too many people, the life of an Ethiopian has become dirt cheap.

If you are relating population growth with poverty and hunger, we all know the world can still sustain the current population growth. Food is abundant in the world. Distribution and trade barrier is the problem.


This is not true, because food is abundant only in the west and in Asia, not in Africa. Food is scare in Africa, because Africans leaders don't have the inclination to encourage farming. In fact African leaders are only interested in exploiting the natural resources to convert them to US dollars, they don't want to build anything lasting.

You say distribution is the problem, do you expect food to be distributed for free eternally. When will Africa learn to grow its own food instead of waiting for food to come from outside.

Even if you argue population growth is the reason for poverty, which I may agree to some degree, I do not agree the correlation indicates causality . In contrary poverty is the cause of population growth as children are considered assets in Africa. As household working force and insurance to the parents when they get older.


Yes you are right, there is plenty of evidence to show poverty causes overpopulation, but there is also clear evidence to show overpopulation worsens the problem of poverty. but overpopulation is not the only cause of poverty, illiteracy is an even bigger factor.

I summary, there is enough land and resources in countries such as Ethiopia and Congo, what is lacking is competent government. But the current regimes are not only slaves but also instrument of enslaving the minds of their own people.


I don't think the white man is causing the Woyanes or Joseph Kabila to become corrupt. It is the other way around, the white man is using their inborn corrupt nature to his advantage. Meles was bad from the day he was born, the white man didn't make him bad, but there is no doubt the white man encourages the badness to his own advantage. But I don't blame the white man for that, I blame the local traitors who sell us all for US dollars.



Re: ☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby YeSat-Nebelbal » 20 Apr 2012, 23:29


Conformist is too precise to correct or add. Blaming others for your weakness cannot be taken too seriously. In the jungle weak animals are targeted, dried forests are rejuvenated by wild fires, and weak nations are exploited. This is the natural order of things. Let's not blame others for our weakness, but correct our weakness and improve our chances of survival. This is a cruel world, and in cruel world being more accurate and better organized are the prerequisite to survival. That has been the fact today as it has always been in the past. Sure this does not mean weak should not exist, unless the weak lifts itself up and get ready for survival strong will make the weak a client state in exchange for protection. We see this relation in the streets as well as in the international political arena. Weak needs to identify its weakness and work on strengthening them. African nations main problem are over population. Irish experienced it, a 150 years ago and they corrected it, Chinese exprienced it 50 years ago and they put inplace a corrective measure and they are fixing it.

As for Ethiopia's population, the number was between 15 - 20 million in the mid 1950s. The main reason it did not have too much hunger way back then was due to high work ethics of the people that lived in those times and the number of people that were in the country. Now the population is much higher than the country can support without breaking the bank and upsetting the natural order of things. Illiteracy in Ethiopia is over 50%, and productivity is very low. People rather to enjoy talk about Ethiopia's past glory than work hard today to eclipse her past achievements. Other nations take responsibility in every generation to eclipse the previous one, only in Ethiopia people are too happy where the country was a 100 years ago, they are oblivious to the fact there has been ten generation since that has been a failure one after another and incrementally worse than the previous generation.

Oromay wrote:
Conformist wrote:
They can't feed the world with words, they have fertile land but not the fertile minds to organize farms and infrastructure. They spent half a century blaming colonialism for their failures without making any effort to change their situation. This world doesn't forgive such gross errors, if people like the Congolese fail to get their act together, they will be replaced by better people.


The same goes to Ethiopia. According to you Ethiopias failure to organise farms and infrastructure implies that Ethiopians have infertile minds. That is self-hating and forgive me, this kind of thinking might lead to psychological condition.
Although I agree Africans should not dwell on blaming colonialism, I find it just shocking that you consider half a century very long in relation to colonialism. It is just ended (some argue it is not ended) half a generation ago and you seem to undermine its catastroph in Africa. The majority of the problem in Africa emanated from colonialism. If you think Africans should cure the disease of centuries of colonial rule in half a century, it is just a dream. Unlike your claim though, Congolese tried their best. We all know who the CIA (US) intervened to create more problems. So we just moved from visible to invisible colonialism. What you are doing is just like blaming a rape victim why she was born a woman.


Some of the Nations with highest population growth are, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, Uganda, Burundi, Rwanda, Liberia, Gaza Strip etc ... and they are all facing serious troubles.

Some of the Nations with lowest population growth are, Austria, Belgium, Japan, Finland, Switzerland etc ... and they are all doing well.

It is not difficult to see what a terrible national curse a high population growth rate can be. Fewer children brought up better is the way to secure a better future for Africa. This is not new knowledge, we have known it for decades, but only Africans are resisting this knowledge.


I think you are assuming that population growth is the sole or the biggest problem. Lets take Ethiopia for instance, as we all know the situation better. If we go back to 50 years ago when the population was less than half of what is today, all the current problems in Ethiopia were existent at that time. Famine was widespread even though the population was few. So the main causes for the problems are bad governance, policies, dictatorship, ethnic politics, corruption, etc. All those variables are unchanged while the variable 'population growth' always changes.

If you are relating population growth with poverty and hunger, we all know the world can still sustain the current population growth. Food is abundant in the world. Distribution and trade barrier is the problem. Even if you argue population growth is the reason for poverty, which I may agree to some degree, I do not agree the correlation indicates causality . In contrary poverty is the cause of population growth as children are considered assets in Africa. As household working force and insurance to the parents when they get older.

I summary, there is enough land and resources in countries such as Ethiopia and Congo, what is lacking is competent government. But the current regimes are not only slaves but also instrument of enslaving the minds of their own people. Enslaved mind says white is saint and black is devil.



Re: ☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby revolutions » 21 Apr 2012, 01:44


Conformist wrote:
revolutions wrote:Since 1996 over 6 million people got killed in the Congo and no one talks about it.



The world is not ignorant of the horrors that are going on in Congo, moreover the world is silent, not because of racism, but by necessity. The Congolese are breeding too fast, if left alone they will not restrain their population growth and will cause a lot of trouble for themselves and others. As you pointed out millions have perished in Congo since the fall of Mobutu, but even with that, they have managed to take the 25th highest place in population growth in the world.

The solution to the African holocaust is simple, restrict reproduction to two children per family, otherwise the holocausts will continue and no one will care. Africans have their destiny in their hands, they better act responsibly.


You remind me of a certain ruthless character Professor Donald Levine had mentioned on his recent interview with ESAT TV. The Professor said.....

    "...I'll tell you an experience I had that signaled to me that terrible times were ahead [for Ethiopia]. I had a student in Chicago, an Ethiopian, and this was around 1970-71, he was son of an elite family, and he said that a lot of us are thinking we should do what they did in Russia to modernize. And I said to him do you know that in Russia what Stalin did cost the lives of 20 million people? And here's what he said........
    "well, they had like 200 million people in Russia, so 20 million out of 200 million is 10%. Ethiopia has 30 million people and 10% of that is 3 million. (pause and think) 3 million people would not be too high of a price to pay for progress."

    When he said that my heart stopped, because he's representative of the educated group. Ethiopians were so embarrassed to be poor, and to be "backward," they thought how could we modernize as fast as possible, and if that means killing 3 million people, so be it.

    I'm afraid that kind of thinking is still to be found even today. Much of the leadership today are forcibly removing 1.5 million Ethiopians off their ancestral lands in the Gambella, Ogaden, Afar and the Beni-shangul regions. In the name of what? In the name of 'progress.' In the name of what Russia did. And when people say 'blood must flow', it's always other people's blood must flow...."


You can watch the interview here.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Io#t=3334s



Re: ☠ ☠ The Black Holocaust in Africa ☠ ☠ Video ☠ ☠

Postby Conformist » 21 Apr 2012, 09:36


revolutions wrote:[list]"...I'll tell you an experience I had that signaled to me that terrible times were ahead [for Ethiopia]. I had a student in Chicago, an Ethiopian, and this was around 1970-71, he was son of an elite family, and he said that a lot of us are thinking we should do what they did in Russia to modernize. And I said to him do you know that in Russia what Stalin did cost the lives of 20 million people? And here's what he said........
"well, they had like 200 million people in Russia, so 20 million out of 200 million is 10%. Ethiopia has 30 million people and 10% of that is 3 million. (pause and think) 3 million people would not be too high of a price to pay for progress."


It's not up to me to decide how many million Ethiopians would have to die, the people collectively made the prospect of mass death inevitable by their selfish patterns of reproduction. I don't have to administer the triage, but some unfortunate souls will be compelled to decide who will live or who will die, because clearly not eveybody can live. The country is staying alive on foreign aid, if the aid is cut off, then the mass death will begin. I am only pointing out that inevitablility, I am neither the judge nor the executioner of the peoples.



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