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To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby Semira » 24 May 2012, 09:39


during my participation in this forum, i notice a common trend amongst you all except few fine and enlightened souls like erishikor and hardliner. etc. It seems most of you are presenting Eritrea as a model for ethiopia or other african nations to follow while the reality is that you are living under brutal dictatorship which forced millions of your compatriouts to vacate their allegedely eden of garden. It is a simple logic that if eritrea is as you are trying to portray here, no single person will leave and vacate it. But the amount of refugees you lots create is becoming a nuesance to nations like Italy, Malta, Israel Egypt and all western nations. As usual, you are going to deny that fact and only present some rothy pictures here. in an information age, pictures like below are visible through out the world instantly. It seems you guys are happy and settled just because your pfl dictator is not selling land, women and children like the dictator south of you. In my view, you should persue your own dream of freedom from brutal rule than dance every year celebrating as if you are living in some tranquility planet. It is visible on everything you do that you care less for your compatriots who are languishing in your prison. You also care less for many of your falks who are in refugee gethos all over the world, the rape, ransom and many other attrocities they recieve on route to their real independence. Some of you are arrogant and stuuupid enough to constantly and repeatedly comment on ethiopian peoples plight while ignoring yours. infact some of the arrogants like sirenn and wqaw went further on nominating themselves to lead ethiopian struggle or to mentor us so that we will end up being farmers in your land just like the poor TPDM is doing now. In a nutshell, this is what we call in amharic "Jib kemayawqew hager hido, Kurbet antifulign yilal".

In my view, you dont have to deficate here if you don't have any positivity to ethiopian poor. you should follow Revolution (your compatriote who is really humane to ethiopian poor and their plight and constantly expose the ruling junta and their cadres). Or else, we want you to discuss your own ill, problems, slavery under one man rule etc if you want us to take you as real human being. so far, you all are hypocrites who portray Eritrea as a land that is abandant. remember, if Eritrea is as you guys are portraying it, refugees would have been flocking to it. the reality is that it is another living hell which is a little bit better than the weyanne controlled ethiopia. Now read this and have your comments. At least, lets make this thread about Eritrea and its only problem. we had enough of you discussing about ethiopia.

http://www.rt.com/news/israel-anti-migrant-demo-061/

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Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby YEBANDAMERZE » 24 May 2012, 09:53


Please let's not waste our time discussing Eritrea. :lol:By the way who said Eritrea was hell? Didn't Aqatariwa say that Isayas was a great leader 3 months ago? I will just sit back and enjoy as the wortless shabia pigs molest you over the next few days for what you wrote about their Po op nation.



Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby Delete my account » 24 May 2012, 10:23


Semira wrote:during my participation in this forum, i notice a common trend amongst you all except few fine and enlightened souls like erishikor and hardliner. etc. It seems most of you are presenting Eritrea as a model for ethiopia or other african nations to follow while the reality is that you are living under brutal dictatorship which forced millions of your compatriouts to vacate their allegedely eden of garden. It is a simple logic that if eritrea is as you are trying to portray here, no single person will leave and vacate it. But the amount of refugees you lots create is becoming a nuesance to nations like Italy, Malta, Israel Egypt and all western nations. As usual, you are going to deny that fact and only present some rothy pictures here. in an information age, pictures like below are visible through out the world instantly. It seems you guys are happy and settled just because your pfl dictator is not selling land, women and children like the dictator south of you. In my view, you should persue your own dream of freedom from brutal rule than dance every year celebrating as if you are living in some tranquility planet. It is visible on everything you do that you care less for your compatriots who are languishing in your prison. You also care less for many of your falks who are in refugee gethos all over the world, the rape, ransom and many other attrocities they recieve on route to their real independence. Some of you are arrogant and stuuupid enough to constantly and repeatedly comment on ethiopian peoples plight while ignoring yours. infact some of the arrogants like sirenn and wqaw went further on nominating themselves to lead ethiopian struggle or to mentor us so that we will end up being farmers in your land just like the poor TPDM is doing now. In a nutshell, this is what we call in amharic "Jib kemayawqew hager hido, Kurbet antifulign yilal".

In my view, you dont have to deficate here if you don't have any positivity to ethiopian poor. you should follow Revolution (your compatriote who is really humane to ethiopian poor and their plight and constantly expose the ruling junta and their cadres). Or else, we want you to discuss your own ill, problems, slavery under one man rule etc if you want us to take you as real human being. so far, you all are hypocrites who portray Eritrea as a land that is abandant. remember, if Eritrea is as you guys are portraying it, refugees would have been flocking to it. the reality is that it is another living hell which is a little bit better than the weyanne controlled ethiopia. Now read this and have your comments. At least, lets make this thread about Eritrea and its only problem. we had enough of you discussing about ethiopia.

http://www.rt.com/news/israel-anti-migrant-demo-061/

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You are contradicting yourself, have you ever heard the saying charity begins at home? Revolution should worry about his own Eritreans people instead of Ethiopians.



Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby Ertrawnet » 24 May 2012, 10:28


Samira([deleted]):Or else, we want you to discuss your own ill, problems, slavery under one man rule etc if you want us to take you as real human being. so far, you all are hypocrites who portray Eritrea as a land that is abandant. remember, if Eritrea is as you guys are portraying it, refugees would have been flocking to it. the reality is that it is another living hell which is a little bit better than the weyanne controlled ethiopia. Now read this and have your comments. At least, lets make this thread about Eritrea and its only problem. we had enough of you discussing about ethiopia.



You said if ertra was so good, how come refugees dont go there?? Eritrea has somali refugees, we had sudanese refugees, even we have Ethiopian refugess, and we have foringers working in eritrea too specially indians who come there to work, many indians live there and work as teachers and live good life 8)

Indian Teacher in Eritrea



























































And second of all Pepole are not leaving ERitrea becuse of the GOE they are leaving becuse they want to make some money..I blame this on the Eritrea diasporra who act as millionaries when they travel back home..The Villas, The cars, and nice clothes is the reason why pepole leave the country..Pepole are leaving mexico to go to USA is it becue the country and its leadership is is bad?? Eritrea dont have redcross or USA Embasy, if an eritrean wants to go to USA he have to go Ethiopia, to ethier talk to a emabsy or to redCross office many Eritrean who goes there goes with money, in your world you think they go there to begg becuse of hunger..60% procent of all somalis who come to the west comes true ethiopia, they uses the redcross or embassies to get where they wanna get.. Also ERitrea has many Ethiopian refugees But we dont talk about it like you guys do..Also why are you acting like ethiopian dont have huge nummber of refugess?? Your a very Biased person who thinks everybody in eritrea leaves but everybody in Ethiopia stays..In reality many ethiopians live in isreal, italia, malta, etc as "eritrean refuges".


Why is there no Election in Eritrea?
We dont need Election in eritrea becuse we have EXTREME oppostion groups from jihhadist to regionlist, we haver sacrified to much of our own pepole, allowing Election will lead ERitrea into the worng hands..BEKA!!



All ERitrean problems comes from Weyane, If weyane did not invade ERitrea 1998, we would not have all this Sawa national service, wich is forcing some of our pepole to leave thier land..We cant just Demobilize the army as long is weyane is around..F0ck all weyane
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Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby Minelik » 24 May 2012, 10:53


Semira, you got good point. Some Eris are so naive..and you can tell from their full of ambitious threads..a country as big as Ethiopia is not interesed to learn from a small and dysfunction country. Ambessa seyarej ye zimb meqeleja yihonal.

All we ask for Eris is take your business somewhere else. Do not compare or even ask Ethiopians to follow your example..this is stu.pid..I wish you all know what's buzzing in the minds of Ethiopians at home. Eris are gone for good , good luck to them.

Its all about ego..Eris wants to compete with us...may be Rwanda and Burundi or Togo are your equivalents..not us.



Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby EriProdigy » 24 May 2012, 11:20


Semira,

I think you really meant it this time. I agree with most of your points here. Ultimately the person who is really responsible for this mess in this forum is Elias himself. He did not regulate this forum properly, with all his brilliance and zealousness, he is still full of childish mistakes, and sorry to say he cant make it to the glory dayz with his child like naivety and poor political skills. People already know about this, that is why they are unable to put their money on him.

I can only speak for my self. I live Ethiopian politics to Ethiopians, I have my own family and people to worry about day in and day out. That is why my agenda 90% Eritrea related. I love all Ethiopians, I'm not a racist or tribalist.

Let us be fair, who leads Ethiopia, or what law Ethiopia should have is not really my business. Eritrea is my business.



Semira wrote:during my participation in this forum, i notice a common trend amongst you all except few fine and enlightened souls like erishikor and hardliner. etc. It seems most of you are presenting Eritrea as a model for ethiopia or other african nations to follow while the reality is that you are living under brutal dictatorship which forced millions of your compatriouts to vacate their allegedely eden of garden. It is a simple logic that if eritrea is as you are trying to portray here, no single person will leave and vacate it. But the amount of refugees you lots create is becoming a nuesance to nations like Italy, Malta, Israel Egypt and all western nations. As usual, you are going to deny that fact and only present some rothy pictures here. in an information age, pictures like below are visible through out the world instantly. It seems you guys are happy and settled just because your pfl dictator is not selling land, women and children like the dictator south of you. In my view, you should persue your own dream of freedom from brutal rule than dance every year celebrating as if you are living in some tranquility planet. It is visible on everything you do that you care less for your compatriots who are languishing in your prison. You also care less for many of your falks who are in refugee gethos all over the world, the rape, ransom and many other attrocities they recieve on route to their real independence. Some of you are arrogant and stuuupid enough to constantly and repeatedly comment on ethiopian peoples plight while ignoring yours. infact some of the arrogants like sirenn and wqaw went further on nominating themselves to lead ethiopian struggle or to mentor us so that we will end up being farmers in your land just like the poor TPDM is doing now. In a nutshell, this is what we call in amharic "Jib kemayawqew hager hido, Kurbet antifulign yilal".

In my view, you dont have to deficate here if you don't have any positivity to ethiopian poor. you should follow Revolution (your compatriote who is really humane to ethiopian poor and their plight and constantly expose the ruling junta and their cadres). Or else, we want you to discuss your own ill, problems, slavery under one man rule etc if you want us to take you as real human being. so far, you all are hypocrites who portray Eritrea as a land that is abandant. remember, if Eritrea is as you guys are portraying it, refugees would have been flocking to it. the reality is that it is another living hell which is a little bit better than the weyanne controlled ethiopia. Now read this and have your comments. At least, lets make this thread about Eritrea and its only problem. we had enough of you discussing about ethiopia.

http://www.rt.com/news/israel-anti-migrant-demo-061/

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Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby Shalom » 24 May 2012, 11:28


Semira,
Good point and I do not see any difference between Eritreans and Ethiopians, and of course we are the same backward people who are unable to satisfy our basic needs.

Virtually, there are no words to characterize the behavior of some Eritreans who are trying hard to depict as if their country is paradise, perhaps I could only say that “If wishes were horses, beggars would ride”.

I am not wishing bad to Eritrea, however, when you see the truth is twisted and painted with some wishful thinking it would not be apt to be soundless.

I also agree that Revolution is one of the few whose glasses are not fuzzy, so that his judgment seems rational as well as impartial.



Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby Ghirmawi » 24 May 2012, 12:04


Semira,
I don’t know what made u pick a fight with Eris on this sacred day. No Eritrean, including myself, have ever portrayed Eritrea either as a role model for Ethiopia or as a paradise. You know more than anyone else in this forum the presence of Eritreans here is only a reaction to those who day in and day out harass the nation whenever and wherever they got the opportunity. Especially those TPLF cadres who never utter a single word on what is happening in Ethiopia, yet spend a substantial amount of their time digging any negative news on Eritrea. You would also agree with me, I guess, when I say there is physiological warfare taking place in full swing by various elements against the country for a mere fact that the nation has avoided to host NGO’s and/or receive donors in a red carpet. Concerning the refugee problems, you know substantial amount of those who seek asylum by pretending Eritreans are in fact Ethiopians, especially those who speak Tigringa. In the country I live, even Oromos are now asking asylum claiming Eritrean nationality. Nonetheless, the fact remains a large number of Eritrean youth is feeling the country. And that has its own cultural, economic and religious explanations.

Having said that though let me add Eritrea may indeed be a role model not only for Ethiopia but for many other developing nations in certain aspects, the same thing as those other nations could also be role model for Eritrea. We know Eritrea faces a lot of challenges, but we Eritreans are sure in a long run, the country will be an example to many poor nations in the world. Eritrea is just a 21 years old nation. Like any human life, a nation's life had to pass through certain stages/chapters to fully be a place to live for its citizens. It is imperative that Eritrea had to pass through its current stage. It is a natural course. Any attempt to hurdle this trouble some stage is futile and would lead to superfluous and temporal solutions with tremendous negative effect for generations to come.One can never avoid it if at the end of the day one wants to see a prosperous and democratic nation where the rights of every individual is respected.

Finally, you seem to be arrogantly irritated for u assume Eritrea is not in the same league to be compared with Ethiopia. Apart from historical facts on today’s Eritrea contribution to the ancient Ethiopian civilization, I would agree with you Eritrea and Ethiopia are not in the same league. As someone eloquently said here, Ethiopia is Africa’s past while Eri is its future.

Happy Eritrean independence day. We fought, we exist and we will concur our destiny!!!



Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby Semira » 24 May 2012, 12:21


Ghirmawi,

I exclude you from the list of hypocrites , or cadres (perfectly fitting name). I don't see you taking pleasure by mocking poor ethiopians and if i didn't list your name, you know yourself and that message is not directed at you. My message is to those who constantly accuse, mock, attack the ethio-poor. I care less if they continue doing that but i sucks to see them portray their land, people and leadership as some model to follow. I simply don't agree that Eritrea is a model to follow because it is a one man rule, jails any form of dessent, persecution of journalists, and above all, it is a country that produced the highest refugee in ratio of population even worse than the troubled Somalia. it won't be exaggerating to say 40% of Eritrean soul lives abroad. some even make it 60%.

In regard to the shabia cadres and their daily activities here. they simply are ignorant of the highest order. All they know is compare Eritrea with Ethiopia and be happy just because their land is not on sale like what is happening in ethiopia, they feel that they are a fulfilled nation. For that matter, Egyptians, Libians, Tunisians should have felt the same way. Those nations say no to dictatorship and i suggest those cadres to compare themselves to those arab countries. they feel that they relate to them anyway and why should the compare themselves to poor ethios?

some one need to remind these cadres that they are refugees themselves who are refusing to go and live in the fake tranquility land they call eritrea. I have never compared Eritrea to my country Ethiopia because it is incomparable. If I say Ethiopia is in a perfect leadership and economic principle, i am expected to go and live there making the improvement and enjoying family life. Since my country has nothing for me at the moment (including freedom), i am out supporting myself and my extended family. we need to be honest on why people vacate their country. we don't need to go into the cyclic denial and lies about the well being of the country because reports like the one i posted are on our fingure tips.

In regard to why i opened this thread, i was fed up by those shabia cadres who portray a wrong image about themselves and mock the poor. if you are not a regular to the forum, you have no idea of what i am talking about



Re: To Eritrean members of this forum

Postby Roha » 24 May 2012, 13:28


Semira,
That is what many Ethiopians have been telling them but they don't seem to understand the misery and heart break in Eritrea. Eritrea is in worse situation as we are but they dare to preach us here, as if it is heaven. Never seen such ignorance,
Semira wrote:
In a nutshell, this is what we call in amharic "Jib kemayawqew hager hido, Kurbet antifulign yilal".

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