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Issayas and Meles all out war will not be avoided; it is a matter of time!

Postby Halafi Mengedi » 02 Jun 2012, 11:58


“BADME UNDER SHAEBIA IS TPDM IN Addis Ababa MENELIK PALACE”

The TPDM emerging to the political scene and military gaining supported and sheltered by the Eritrean resources to destroy the Adwa and Axum power in Addis Ababa the two regions relationship is even more complicated and cannot be resolved by dialog since Issayas Afewerki unequivocally said he does not want to talk to Meles any time soon or at all in his life.

Let’s assume Amantu the mother of liar post is correct and Badme is under the hand of Shaebia right now and both regimes are quite to tell the world. The first thing comes to my mind is ARENA TIGRAY and MEDREK will not be silenced under any circumstances and we could have known it within the hours it happened. The Generals and cadres hard core of Woyane wills not silenced by any means and they could have told us immediately as it happened.

If Badme is under the Shaebia forces right now regardless of silence the problem will not be solved due to TPDM presence in Eritrea. Issayas said no negotiation with Meles and TPDM wants to kick out Meles and his followers from power that means Meles nightmare will not end by seeding Badme to Eritrea, TPDM will become even more powerful in Tigray as the Meles power and trust among Tigrayans diminishes. The choice for Meles regime is to go ahead and dismantle Shaebia and install his choice in Eritrea and the Meles group hold power for many years to come with the new Eritrean regime in power and either Eritrea will unite with Ethiopia or both will form a government and divide Ethiopia in the long run, that is depend how the Ethiopian situation on the ground.

If Issayas was to negotiate with Meles and disarm TPDM, Meles will not hesitate to give up Tigrayans land if the cadres and Tigray people allow him to do so. I trust Issayas as he said no negotiation with Meles means let TPDM take over Ethiopia and Issayas will stick with TPDM and if Badme is under the control of Eritreans and Meles does not react harshly, his fate will be determine very soon by the Tigrayans oppositions and grass roots and either he will be caught or flee the country very soon. The fall of Badme in the hand of Shaebia is the biggest victory to TPDM in Tigray. No Tigrayan will look back for Meles and his follower except to look forward to TPDM and all Tigryans will follow TPDM to restore orders.

Going forward Meles does not have any choice since the TPDM emergence to the scene of Ethiopian politics except to fight Shaebia and dismantle them and become the undisputed leader of Horn Africa or flee the country. Giving up Badme is not going to solve Meles problems any more. The solution for Meles is fighting Shaebia or flees the country. The Issayas political trap to Meles future is very clever and very far sighted if Shaebia can handle and over come in case all out war breaks. But the latest situation is one of them to go to hell and the remaining leader to become the undisputed King of King Horn Africa for a long time to come.

In the past years Meles was very hesitant to go after Shaebia because there was not real treat to his power despite OLF, ONLF and Al Shebab based in Asmara. However, today is totally different Meles cannot avoid or ignore TPDM; the more Meles waits the more TPDM gains militarily and politically in Tigray. Despite unwillingness to go after Shaebia, he will be forced to take very harsh measure to stop TPDM and the presence of Shaebia in Eritrea. Basically Shaebia is forcing Meles to make very decisive decision like either fight us or leave Ethiopia for good. We shall see what Meles choice will be in the near future.
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Re: Issayas and Meles all out war will not be avoided; it is a matter of time!

Postby Akele-Guzai » 02 Jun 2012, 18:36


"the more Meles waits the more TPDM gains militarily and politically in Tigray. Despite unwillingness to go after Shaebia, he will be forced to take very harsh measure to stop TPDM and the presence of Shaebia in Eritrea. "

Don't worry confused tigraway brother called Halafi Mengedi - time will tell who will be defeated or not! One thing I can assure that no what the Eritrean people will never rest for fraction of second until they overthrow the corrupted weyane region and other anti-peace elements. Once those two are accomplished we will have peace in East Africa. The Eritreans waited for 12 years but you refused to implement the final and binding - and it is time now you guys to loss power in Ethiopia. One thing I am is that we have 1,000,000 soldiers in Eritrea and 5 million spy in and out of Eritrea to squash your army and your weyane part. We are waiting only one important scenario - internal unrest and the USA support. With out Shaebiya - weyane is dead. The only option the Tigrean have is join the TPDM! The undisputed regional power in East Africa. They can easily protect the Tigrean people from any attach in the South. Shaebiya will side with them if they have any challenge. TPDM will be the best ally to Eritrea. They will create peace and order in Tigray and Ethiopia. No power in Ethiopia will match TPDM if they have the backing of Eritreans and Tigreans at least fro 100 years. Eritrea and Tigray and Ethiopia will prosper.

TPDM objectives need to include the following:

1) Allow a free border movement to be established between Tigray and Eritrea - the same as the Eritrea with East Sudan.

2) Tigray to use Massawa and Assab free of charge.

3) Ban any language from Tigray except pure Tigrigna. They can learn Amharic and Arabic too.

4) Revive the historical cites in Tigray so that foreign Tourists can visit Axum and Gonder to see historical places all the way from Red sea to Tigray region. This will help them develop their region.

5) Kick all the military personals from Tigray who are breeding kids. Most of the kids born in Tigray are not Tigrean but unknown father. This will create crises in the long term both culturally and linguistically. They need to implement strict family planning and avoid Identity crisis. It is very hard to raise a child by being a single mam and don't know the father of your child. This really up set me! Since Pre-1991 - DERGUE soldiers took advantage to create such kind of mess intentional to weaken Eritrean identity. They cannot beat the Eritrean in the fight but start to alter the demography of our country but failed miserable. In Tigray every year 10,000 fatherless kids are born - Mostly their father is either unknown or Sidamo or Welayta.


6) Avoid being a puppet and need to have a clear vision about Tigray. They need to work for reviving Tigray by self reliance not begging. Avoid Corruption.

7) Dismantle rationalistic tendency.

8) Revive Tigray indigenous culture like Tembien Awris song and Ashenda with a style.

9) stop being consumed by addis Abeba - develop your region first and then Addis Abeba. The poor people live in Tigray, Gonder, Sidama not Addis Abeba

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Re: Issayas and Meles all out war will not be avoided; it is a matter of time!

Postby Halafi Mengedi » 02 Jun 2012, 20:08


Some of the very cores you mentioned I have been preaching them for a while are the followings:

1. Don’t dig old concrete to replace new concrete in Addis Baba before you clean the old and burned tanks at the front of your daddy house in Tigray. Build Tigray that is the reason we fought. No one fought because Addis Ababa is a grazing field of donkeys or we did not have enough religions, night clubs, and prostitutes and so on.

2. Get rid of Amharic from Tigray region and let kids learn their own language and English.

3. Revive and modernize them with 5 star Hotel and nice park and green trees all historical sites of Axum, Lalibela and Gonder and they will generate billions every year than bagging.

4. Instead of all Tigrayans to be forced to contribute to build Abay Dam try to build small dams and bridges in all over Tigray to conserve water so that people can work 7 days a week and 360 days a year with their God given soil than looking others hand.

5. Clean all the Bad culture infested like unwanted religions, Ras teferian hair style, ghetto break dancing on the streets.

6. Improve quality of education in order kids can learn and compete with the rest of the world and make a difference their own lives and Tigray.

7. Install nationalist leaders who love their people more than the white man or their own families and menders.

8. Give kids in high school one year to work in the country side to make sure they will learn hard work and discipline to make a difference to their people in the future, once they finish school.

9. Revive the old map of Tigray and assert your grand fathers territories.

10. Use the hard currency to import capital goods instead of importing luxury goods to appease the corrupt Addis Ababa residents.



Re: Issayas and Meles all out war will not be avoided; it is a matter of time!

Postby Akele-Guzai » 02 Jun 2012, 20:41


Halafi Mengedi wrote:Some of the very cores you mentioned I have been preaching them for a while are the followings:

1. Don’t dig old concrete to replace new concrete in Addis Baba before you clean the old and burned tanks at the front of your daddy house in Tigray. Build Tigray that is the reason we fought. No one fought because Addis Ababa is a grazing field of donkeys or we did not have enough religions, night clubs, and prostitutes and so on.

2. Get rid of Amharic from Tigray region and let kids learn their own language and English.

3. Revive and modernize them with 5 star Hotel and nice park and green trees all historical sites of Axum, Lalibela and Gonder and they will generate billions every year than bagging.

4. Instead of all Tigrayans to be forced to contribute to build Abay Dam try to build small dams and bridges in all over Tigray to conserve water so that people can work 7 days a week and 360 days a year with their God given soil than looking others hand.

5. Clean all the Bad culture infested like unwanted religions, Ras teferian hair style, ghetto break dancing on the streets.

6. Improve quality of education in order kids can learn and compete with the rest of the world and make a difference their own lives and Tigray.

7. Install nationalist leaders who love their people more than the white man or their own families and menders.

8. Give kids in high school one year to work in the country side to make sure they will learn hard work and discipline to make a difference to their people in the future, once they finish school.

9. Revive the old map of Tigray and assert your grand fathers territories.

10. Use the hard currency to import capital goods instead of importing luxury goods to appease the corrupt Addis Ababa residents.



Your corrupt and coward government is short sighted and the people of Tigray need to implement the ideas and hard work of our beloved President wedi Afewoki. Most Tigrean don't realized that Meles is playing you! Few months ago I had a discussion with some Ethiopian and what I heard is interesting. They hate Meles not because of he is coward and beggar as the Eritrean issue but because of he is Tigre. I was shocked and doesn't want to talk to him again because of his anti- ethnic group. I am against ethnic targeting. I even don't support when Tigre Kick Amara from South of Ethiopia.

Anyway, TPDM need to have a clear objective both military, Culturally and linguistically and need to implement what you have preached in this forum - I agree with most of what you said above but I am always annoyed when you insult Eritreans whom they died for you along side your Tigray kids to liberate you. I told you I have an uncle who died in Debretabor - he was with the Shaebiya mechanized Ahadu. He survived many wars in Tigray but he died fighting in Debretabor. You have to respect what we have done for you guys. We paid a lot to bring to power. But in return you betray us. Time will tell who will be the real victim. We have a very strong army we will defend but you guys are in limbo. You will be victims. TPDM is the last option you have.


TPDM looks the undisputed Tigrean force and I hope they will maintain a long lasting friendship with Eritrea. I hope they will be a good ally with Eritrea and east Sudan - regional power in East Africa. If they are very smart , they need to implement the Eritrean ideology and work hard habit rather than chewing chat in addis Abeba.

Today, Tigray looks like a damping ground sex manipulation for young poor kids from Mekele. This is very shame. You guys need to see a long lasting vision for your country.


I don't think President isseyas hate Tigreans but I know for sure he hates Coward Meles. He is the role model for our country despite some challenges he has - balancing both military and economically with out aid. Your Tigray movement need to do the same. TPDM need to work with their people at village level. Implement strict anti-corruption punishment. Create a nationalistic Tigray youth for eventual clash with the people in the south of you. I guarantee you one day you will clash. You guys are vulnerable and you will be victimized in your own soil.

You guys have two options:

Either assimilate with Ethiopia and dismantle the ethnicity apartheid or join TPDM to save you from the fear of unknown.


Good luck Tigreans - You are focusing on Eritrea day in and out but what is brewing in your country is very scary.



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