Reviewr
I see that you want to take me to endless yes..no...yes no... child game. Let me just add one point and end this conversation. For most diaspora Ethiopians there is no one who can speak about EPPF with authority than Elias. Weather an obscure figure from Eritrea denies or confirms it can not replace the perception Ethiopians have for few years now.
I do not like when website owner pretend to be the defacto spokes men for Ethiopians in general. They are not. If you want to gauge the true filling of Ethiopians you can read the discussion forums on any Ethiopian web sites or go to Ethiopian paltalk rooms. It may not be the most scientific aproach but it is the closest one can come to Ethiopians opinion polls. On this forums Elias have a great deal of influence to sway ordinary diaspora Ethiopians than any one who claims to speak for EPPF. In diaspora Elias is EPPF even though he has not claimed yet. And it is beyond shabias reach.

Meron
I totally understand you. EPLF feels comfortable only when Ethiopians are under it's firm control or TPLF's, and I have no doubt TPLF feels the same way. Ethiopians who think and act freely out side of this are threat to....
Unfortunately there are Ethiopians who help you by ostracizing and pushing Ethiopians to this designated zones like a ship is coerced in to a fence. The enemies are TPLF and shabia, No Ethiopian could willingly betray other Ethiopian and sell out to this organizations. No amount of money can do that. But other irresponsible Ethiopians can push some one to take shelter under TPLF or Shabia and that is what sustained this vulture organizations.

I have seen and spoken to many so called EPRDF members in side and out side of the country. It is a miracle that TPLF managed to stay this far. Almost every none Tigrean member who is registered to serve TPLF (except the criminals and mentally ill charactors ) are only buying their time and waiting for some one to take the initiative to bury TPLF. And Meles Zenawi would never know what hit him. That is why the opposition in the country however week it is must be supported to prepare itself (if possible in the open if not clandestinely) for the eventual fall of Meles Zenawi. That is why an attack against Ethiopians by other Ethiopian individuals or groups must stop.

That does not mean the armed struggle should stop. It must continue by all means but it should also not present as a sacrificial lamb precious patriots to blood thirsty shabia criminals.

eritreawi
Elias is no Solomon Takelegn. You can not make him jump ship. I remember it was after coming from Eritrea Solomon takelegn took shelter under the TPLF shadow. What has happened? Truth has a strange way of showing it self!!!

Fellow Ethiopians live and learn.

People hear what they want to hear. Many of you who wanted and waited in vain to hear the worst things about EPPF are still stick with those claims and as long as it is satisfying you, i am sure you will engage with it. For me only official press releases count. If you want it or not, EPPF said EthioMedia and ER are lying and the official web site has more credit than any blogger like Revolution stated it.
Eden said that the web site is under col. Fitsum and her source is Elias. Elias was clever to mention this because he knew that EPPF sooner or later will rebuff this claim so that Eden can say what she said. It´s a dreamers wish to think EPPF is under full control of Eritrea because it doesn´t make any sense for Eritrea to bum any party out. Thinking for the long term it would be very damaging for Eritrea´s future, once EPPF on power.

Reviewer,

You seem to be one of the few people who are rational about issues. I would like to share with you that in February Elias and some diaspora Ethiopians attended the EPPF conference, the duties assigned to the diaspora Ethiopians was to familiarize EPPF with the larger diaspora population but Elias and his friends engaged in divisive politics instead of accomplishing the tasks given them, they wanted to control content of the EPPF website, it was made clear to them that no other website represented EPPF except the official website, Elias withdrew the EPPF website from his front page immediately and other diaspora EPPF members started a different website that claims to be the official EPPF website. After the EPPF leadership tried in vain to stop them they called all of them for a conference to be held in December 2010, most of them refused to attend the conference, at that conference in December those who refused to come were dismissed from EPPF, that is when Elias started his propaganda campaign against EPPF.

On the other hand Woyanne knew full well a well organized diaspora under the umbrella of EPPF was a threat to their staying in power so they targeted those people with enticements, blackmail and in some cases with outright threats to their families and properties in Ethiopia. Mind you Woyanne spent around 40 million dollars in this campaign. Woyannes spread their agents and spies into neighboring countries, specially Kenya and Sudan to hunt down or intimidate EPPF supporters, they also sent spies and operatives to Europe and America, these are the secrets that haven't come out yet but they will in due time.

Of course there are genuine Ethiopian patriots who may have been duped by ethiomedia's "Tikur Chaka" tales, that was an elaborate Woyanne propaganda ploy to demoralize Ethiopians in the diaspora and at the same time drive a wedge between Ethiopians and Eritreans in the diaspora, that ploy may have scared some Ethiopians and also reinforced some Ethiopians in the diaspora who blindly hate anything Eritrean. There is a lot that will come out soon. At the end of the day the truth will prevail. In Woyannes case they don't care about the truth or the long term consequences of their actions, all they care about is about scoring cheap political points to prolong their henious rule in Ethiopa, so with them anything goes as long as they can score points.

abyssinean- You want me to come on the field and meet you there. Now in a sudden you want me to get along by your side and go infront to bring Assab Back. Did I have said I want Assab back? You need to chew what I wrote before you jump to your fantasy bro. Read my lips- Your tyrant gave Assab for his Boss. Assab belongs to Eritera. Eritera is a foreign Nation. Eritera is our next door neighbor. I have nothing to do with those Eriteran people for no reason.
The shabos got mad at me because I don't have any kind respect for their president. The same as you weyane monkeys hate me for the same reason.This is not the time to focus about Assab. My enemey right now is your tyrant leader Zenawi who called us"Amaroch shintamoch nachew." I have to deal with him first. I hope you got my message.

Eloquent O [deleted]

Dude- This will be my last response to you. You are an emotional person. I don't have to argue with your insult one way or the other. Your master abuses your sorry azz and you come over here to tell me all stupid things in your head. You need to chew first before you try to swallow any thing I have said. I have nothing to say to you any more. Don't even waste your time to reply to me .

Dude, you are contradicting yourself . you said Aseb is important for your "country" and you cannot forget the betrayal of your beloved Aseb. Now in the same thread you are again saying Aseb belongs to Eritrea. what a confused dude you are! it is an obvious fact that folks like you believe that Eritrea belongs to them leave alone aseb, though they do not care a down shi'te about the Eritrean people. That was what menge(your hero father) saying in his time, "Eritrea meretu enji hzbu ayasfeligenim". And we know his(menge) follower like you still believe that way. The Eritreans know this very well. that is why they cannot trust EPPF.

it is not all the sudden i am calling you to be in my side, rather it is you who called me to join you.
you said your beloved "Aseb" is important to you "country" and you cannot forget which is tantamount to waging war against Eritrea. But i never said it is my beloved port but if need be i can join people contemplating to capture it. As far as i am concerned my take on Aseb depends on the behavior of Eritrean's and they know very well what i mean by that. i believe in peace, we can mutually benefit from all ports in the red sea cost. However for HDGFits that is not the case and are disturbing my peace even if they are left with their ports. so I find it important to subscribe to your idea of "my beloved aseb" can you understand the difference? or i am just pouring it on a sedimentary rock? Look man even in your last responce you cannot hide your true belief and i do not think the Eritrians fail to understand you: what does this mean? does not it mean you are just postponing the issue of your beloved 'Aseb"? wey ante.
This is not the time to focus about Assab
Any ways, it is true that Ethiopia must have access to the sea and it is not impassible. There are a lot of alternatives to make my Ethiopia have its own port. if your mind can think further listen to this interview below and try to imagine all possible mechanism to acquire it . if you are mentally challenged , i recommend you to watch the film. Hint: though i did not watch the film i can understand from the interview that Tilahun Gugsa does not necessary mean sea ports of Eritrea when he say Ethiopia must have it.


Speaking of bitsay meles, i can see how folks like semira are abusing you. Leave alone betsay Meles any single ordinary tegadaly cannot say that. we do not call people as a whole "shintam" . there is no shintam people but there are shintam individual and that is not peculiar to Amhara once, there are many shintam individuals in any society including tegaru like Halafi mengedi who give up his Ethiopianwinet(if he is really Ethiopian) just b/c people insult him here and he proposed possible partition of Ethiopia.

The good news is your low mentality does not represent Amhara people, As there are shintam individuals in every society there are low minded individuals who can be easily abused. Yet it does not matter, there is no way the majority can be easily abused by fabricated propaganda/lies that you believe is true. so what you or your abusers say is insignificant. what matters is what bitsay meles doing on the ground. i still doubt if you can really understand what i am talking about , b/c i know your mental capability.
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abyssinean

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abyssinean- You want me to come on the field and meet you there. Now in a sudden you want me to get along by your side and go infront to bring Assab Back. Did I have said I want Assab back? You need to chew what I wrote before you jump to your fantasy bro. Read my lips- Your tyrant gave Assab for his Boss. Assab belongs to Eritera. Eritera is a foreign Nation. Eritera is our next door neighbor. I have nothing to do with those Eriteran people for no reason.
The shabos got mad at me because I don't have any kind respect for their president. The same as you weyane monkeys hate me for the same reason.This is not the time to focus about Assab. My enemey right now is your tyrant leader Zenawi who called us"Amaroch shintamoch nachew." I have to deal with him first. I hope you got my message.

Eloquent O [deleted]

Eden
With people like you we may have a shot to bring freedom and peace to that wretched part of the world some day. Honesty about once intentions and the genuine willingness to understand the view of others. Deceptive people who shade crocodile tears only promote distrust. Only misery fallows them. I wish you good lack in your endever. Justice will be served to those who murder Ethiopians in cold blood today and yesterday. Ethiopians will be avenged. It is regrettable Elias and others like him being short sighted allied themselves to a blood thirsty dictator like Isayas Afeworqi.

Thank you for your kind words.

Eden
With people like you we may have a shot to bring freedom and peace to that wretched part of the world some day. Honesty about once intentions and the genuine willingness to understand the view of others. Deceptive people who shade crocodile tears only promote distrust. Only misery fallows them. I wish you good lack in your endever. Justice will be served to those who murder Ethiopians in cold blood today and yesterday. Ethiopians will be avenged. It is regrettable Elias and others like him being short sighted allied themselves to a blood thirsty dictator like Isayas Afeworqi.

Thank you for your kind words.

It took you 8 months to thank Beles Stop digging your [deleted].

Btw...Aregaw....Exhibit number one

Beles,

The official EPPF website has debunked Elias' story that nothing of that sort happened anywhere and that it was a deliberate act of deception. But you are free to cling to your 40 million dollars worth of illusion if it provides you succor.

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revolutions the mouth piece of col. fitsum is accusing elias of deliberate deception. wey gud. live and learn.

Beles,

The official EPPF website has debunked Elias' story that nothing of that sort happened anywhere and that it was a deliberate act of deception. But you are free to cling to your 40 million dollars worth of illusion if it provides you succor.

revolutions the mouth piece of col. fitsum is accusing elias of deliberate deception. wey gud. live and learn.

I quoted a statement issued by the official EPPF website, and if anything, I'm a mouth piece of the gallant EPPF fighters striking fear in twisted the hearts of you coward woyanes.

Revolutions,

Thank you for digging up this oldie but a goody thread, this is one Elias and Eden don't want to see now, I think Elias is digging himself deeper and deeper into the ditch of denial at best and the ditch of betrayal at worst.