[elias]

Elias,

What is your problem if TPDM replaces TPLF?!?

Because TPDM is led by Shabia, so if TPDM comes to power in Ethiopia, it is the same as Shabia coming to power in Ethiopia. TPDM lost its independence when its founder and leader Col. Fisseha was assassinated by the Eritrean colonel Fistum Yissehak who is now fully in command of TPDM. Am I clear?

And I've never been a puppet to any one. If I were a puppet of Shabia, I would still be working with them. Shabia has done nothing to me personally. In fact, they were nice to me and when ever I went to Asmara I used to receive a VIP treatment, although I don't care about such stuff. My problem with Shabia is that they arrested my comrades, and I cannot in good conscience work with them while my comrades languish in jail.

Don't be stupid. It's not a matter of love and hate. It's a matter of advancing one's interests.

you stated it a matter of advancing one's interest - What is if the interest of the two has a risk to eritrea. would you say
eritrea is advancing it's interest if they let them roam.

Trying to install puppet groups like TPDM is already backfiring on the Eritrean regime.

I have said in this forum very clearly what is the motive of Tyrant Asheibr and tyarnt ISSAYSS was . These two leaders are buying time in order to stay in power. They know exactly what they are expecting in the near future. Since both of them are dictators, they don't have the willing to give power soon. Both dictators are going to stay for long time by playing their dirty games. I do believe Elias is on the right course. We have to give him more credit for what he is doing. Yes he had tried his best to bring to close the bridge between Ethiopian opposition groups and the Eriteran govt for long time. Now he understand what is really going on more than any one in this forum. Let us be honest each other and it is time to move on with out the support of Eriteran govt in order to get rid of tyrant Asheibr for good. We have to do it by our selves.

Chilo [deleted],

a few years ago, I was mauled on this forum for opposing any alliance with the Eritrean butcher.Elias was wrong to believe a brutal dictator would be concerned about Ethiopian freedom.So [deleted], now stop wagging your tail. Yesterday you were saying that Isayas will help liberate Ethiopia. Aye jilo Mamo kilo, no wonder everyone calls you [deleted]!!. I

Elias,

What is your problem if TPDM replaces TPLF?!?

Because TPDM is led by Shabia, so if TPDM comes to power in Ethiopia, it is the same as Shabia coming to power in Ethiopia. TPDM lost its independence when its founder and leader Col. Fisseha was assassinated by the Eritrean colonel Fistum Yissehak who is now fully in command of TPDM. Am I clear?

Elias, could you please have a balanced view of the situation, TPDM is not going to rule Ethiopia, its only role is to bring about the end of Woyane. It will not go beyond tigray. Can you really bring yourself to believe that an illiterate army of beles merchants will manage to take over Ethiopia again. There is no way the Ethiopian people or even the western powers will accept another Tigre government in Ethiopia. TPDM exists to destroy WOyane, don't give it any credit beyond that. Besides, Shabia is no longer interested to install another government in Ethiopia again, all it wants is to destroy Woyane and recover badme, that's all.

Halaf metri:

How many times do i need to tell the [deleted]...Unless you lean to a better humanbeing than your arse, your destiny is doomed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18414331

This is Tigray...And please enlighten us if this rigid and hostile landscape is sustainable to feed the [deleted] population.

Beka is a slogan that calls for an end to the Woyanne rule in Ethiopia. Writing Beka slogan on walls is part of Tinsae Ethiopia’s civil resistance campaign that includes economic boycott, disabling Woyanne’s economic infrastructure, and helping create a transitional government to replace Woyanne. See photos here: http://tinsae.org/index/?p=15099

The arrest of of Tinsae Ethiopia's 2 senior leaders, Col Tadesse Muluneh and Col. Abebe Geresu, by Eritrean government is big setback, but the fledgling organization is regrouping and taking actions again. The two leaders were thrown in jail by Eritrean authorities just us Tinsae Ethiopia prepared to launch a civil resistance campaign in several cities in Ethiopia. I have lost any hope that the Eritrean gov't will play a positive role in helping bring change in Ethiopia. What the Eritrean gov't wants is puppet groups like TPDM that they can install in Arat Kilo -- the same way they brought TPLF to power, which turned out to be a disaster for them. Trying to install puppet groups like TPDM is already backfiring on the Eritrean regime. Currently, the level of resentment among Ethiopians toward the Eritrean gov't is back to where it was when Shabia and Woyanne were working together. This is because of the narrow-mindedness of the Eritrean leadership that resorted to a zero-sum game instead of working for a win-win situation for both Ethiopia and Eritrea. The arrest of Taddesse and Abebe, in particular, is unbelievably idiotic as it has absolutely no benefit for the Eritrean gov't, but the damage it has caused on the effort to forge a working relationship between Ethiopian opposition groups and Eritrean gov't is incalculable. The conventional Ethiopian thinking toward Shabia has turned out to be on the mark, and my theory that Shabia wants a genuine relation with Ethiopian opposition groups has been debunked by the actions of the Eritrean gov't itself. I came to this conclusion very reluctantly, and a recent nasty email exchange with a Shabia cadre in Washington DC named Amanuel Andeberhan tells it all. I will post that email exchange here in due time.

Ato Elias.

Chilo [deleted],

a few years ago, I was mauled on this forum for opposing any alliance with the Eritrean butcher.Elias was wrong to believe a brutal dictator would be concerned about Ethiopian freedom.So [deleted], now stop wagging your tail. Yesterday you were saying that Isayas will help liberate Ethiopia. Aye jilo Mamo kilo, no wonder everyone calls you [deleted]!!. I

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- አላዋቂ - ሳሚ- ንፍጥ ይለቀልቃል
No bod is opposing you to speak up your mind. Your problem is your mouth. At least respect the dictator and try to criticize him what ever you wish. [deleted] remember what I have said very carefully. Since your tiny ugame brain doesn't understand, I will post it one more time.

"our attitude toward any country is determined by the attitude of that country to our struggle. That makes for some un seemly bed follow "
Nelson Mandela

Bandaw do you have a problem with my quote? Your cousins called you [deleted]. You need to swallow your ugame pride and fight for your ugame people. [deleted] is a professional job. they don't beg like your in the street. ቆርቆሮ ራስ ወያኔ መንኪ

Beka is a slogan that calls for an end to the Woyanne rule in Ethiopia. Writing Beka slogan on walls is part of Tinsae Ethiopia’s civil resistance campaign that includes economic boycott, disabling Woyanne’s economic infrastructure, and helping create a transitional government to replace Woyanne. See photos here: http://tinsae.org/index/?p=15099

The arrest of of Tinsae Ethiopia's 2 senior leaders, Col Tadesse Muluneh and Col. Abebe Geresu, by Eritrean government is big setback, but the fledgling organization is regrouping and taking actions again. The two leaders were thrown in jail by Eritrean authorities just us Tinsae Ethiopia prepared to launch a civil resistance campaign in several cities in Ethiopia. I have lost any hope that the Eritrean gov't will play a positive role in helping bring change in Ethiopia. What the Eritrean gov't wants is puppet groups like TPDM that they can install in Arat Kilo -- the same way they brought TPLF to power, which turned out to be a disaster for them. Trying to install puppet groups like TPDM is already backfiring on the Eritrean regime. Currently, the level of resentment among Ethiopians toward the Eritrean gov't is back to where it was when Shabia and Woyanne were working together. This is because of the narrow-mindedness of the Eritrean leadership that resorted to a zero-sum game instead of working for a win-win situation for both Ethiopia and Eritrea. The arrest of Taddesse and Abebe, in particular, is unbelievably idiotic as it has absolutely no benefit for the Eritrean gov't, but the damage it has caused on the effort to forge a working relationship between Ethiopian opposition groups and Eritrean gov't is incalculable. The conventional Ethiopian thinking toward Shabia has
turned out to be on the mark, and my theory that Shabia wants a genuine relation with Ethiopian opposition groups has been debunked by the actions of the Eritrean gov't itself. I came to this conclusion very reluctantly, and a recent nasty email exchange with a Shabia cadre in Washington DC named Amanuel Andeberhan tells it all. I will post that email exchange here in due time.

Elias,
I am glad you have finally opened your eyes to reality. By cutting your links to shabia, you will win many who have shunned you because they mistrust shabia. I will be your number one new fan. The struggle should be to remove the Woyanne. Cancer without forming any sort of alliances with known enemies of Ethiopia such as Shabia. I am glad you changed your mind about Shabia........only a fool doesn't change his mind when faced with facts. Your next step should be to clean up your moderators.

Beka is a slogan that calls for an end to the Woyanne rule in Ethiopia. Writing Beka slogan on walls is part of Tinsae Ethiopia’s civil resistance campaign that includes economic boycott, disabling Woyanne’s economic infrastructure, and helping create a transitional government to replace Woyanne. See photos here: http://tinsae.org/index/?p=15099

The arrest of of Tinsae Ethiopia's 2 senior leaders, Col Tadesse Muluneh and Col. Abebe Geresu, by Eritrean government is big setback, but the fledgling organization is regrouping and taking actions again. The two leaders were thrown in jail by Eritrean authorities just us Tinsae Ethiopia prepared to launch a civil resistance campaign in several cities in Ethiopia. I have lost any hope that the Eritrean gov't will play a positive role in helping bring change in Ethiopia. What the Eritrean gov't wants is puppet groups like TPDM that they can install in Arat Kilo -- the same way they brought TPLF to power, which turned out to be a disaster for them. Trying to install puppet groups like TPDM is already backfiring on the Eritrean regime. Currently, the level of resentment among Ethiopians toward the Eritrean gov't is back to where it was when Shabia and Woyanne were working together. This is because of the narrow-mindedness of the Eritrean leadership that resorted to a zero-sum game instead of working for a win-win situation for both Ethiopia and Eritrea. The arrest of Taddesse and Abebe, in particular, is unbelievably idiotic as it has absolutely no benefit for the Eritrean gov't, but the damage it has caused on the effort to forge a working relationship between Ethiopian opposition groups and Eritrean gov't is incalculable. The conventional Ethiopian thinking toward Shabia has turned out to be on the mark, and my theory that Shabia wants a genuine relation with Ethiopian opposition groups has been debunked by the actions of the Eritrean gov't itself. I came to this conclusion very reluctantly, and a recent nasty email exchange with a Shabia cadre in Washington DC named Amanuel Andeberhan tells it all. I will post that email exchange here in due time.

brother elias, first of all congratulations to you and those who share your view on the adherents of Tinsae you just announced. As an Eritrean, I do not have any problem with Ethiopians managing their affairs to whatever goal they deem appropriate. That said, I want also to remind you, one more time, that we do not take kindly on anyone who works against the interest of our country. That being a forgone conclusion, I do not understand why you love to whine and call foul every time you want to accuse Eritrea. Eritrea does not care to work with any Ethiopian or Ethiopian group who clearly do not condemn the past and present Ethiopian regimes malicious activity against our country and people. Eritrea does not take it kindly for any Ethiopian or Ethiopian groups that have some ulterior motives vis-à-vis our political independence, national sovereignty and territorial integrity.
In other words, Eritrea is sick and tired with lip-service that comes out of some Ethiopians. Eritrea desired and continues to desire genuine Ethio-Eritrea relationship. What does that mean? It means that a relationship based on mutual respect without eying thy neighbors possession. In black and white: Eritrea and Ethiopia are 2, (repeat TWO) independent sovereign countries to which many Ethiopians give a lip service. However “lip service’ or not, unless and until you (Ethiopians) accept the reality of Eritrea being a neighboring country, no meaningful cooperation can materialize to the point of frutfulness! Oh yeas, I am already hearing that “We recognize Eritrea as a foreign country…” to which I say “No, you don’t”. If you did, ato Semere would have been the first to congratulate us in our day of independence. You see, elias, one doesn’t have to be as smart as Einstein to figure out that personal ego and chauvinism is blocking you and the rest of Ethiopian Diaspora from working with us as opposed working against us. You darn well know that Eritrea has worked it alone before and continues to do it now. But, if you are going to accuse us of not wanting to work with the Ethiopian oppositions forces, then don’t be selective in your assessment of the situation by calling the EPPF and TPDM as “puppets” while calling the others as “Nationalists” You know something, I don’t think it is Eritrea’s issue if you decide to call them whatever name you so desire. That is between you and them since that is Ethiopian issue. But, please don’t blame anybody without some concrete evidence to back it with every time you get up with a headache or something. By the way, it is ok to be against Eritrea and Eritreans if you believe that is the correct way to go. Heck, it is even OK if you want to make up with the Weyanes as you seem to be dying to do. I am sure your newly found friend of Ethiomedia can assist if you are too shy.

Elias,

What is your problem if TPDM replaces TPLF?!?

Because TPDM is led by Shabia, so if TPDM comes to power in Ethiopia, it is the same as Shabia coming to power in Ethiopia. TPDM lost its independence when its founder and leader Col. Fisseha was assassinated by the Eritrean colonel Fistum Yissehak who is now fully in command of TPDM. Am I clear?

And I've never been a puppet to any one. If I were a puppet of Shabia, I would still be working with them. Shabia has done nothing to me personally. In fact, they were nice to me and when ever I went to Asmara I used to receive a VIP treatment, although I don't care about such stuff. My problem with Shabia is that they arrested my comrades, and I cannot in good conscience work with them while my comrades languish in jail.

Elias,

Thank you for your civil replay.

You were a puppet of shabia you just did not saw the strings that were attached to you for obvious reasons, as you were too busy dancing to their tunes. People who care saw these strings early on including me who tried to reason with you, but you were not having it as that time. The writing was on the wall!! You were like an innocent, cute little girl who fell in love uncontrollably with a mexico drug cartel bad boy!!

You are now separating from shabia bad boys after they impregnated you three times. You are no any use for them now with belly up and two children to take-care off. You better come back to your family for a help.

I and many others called you a puppet then because we knew what will happen, it didn't took too long for my predictions to come true. It was not a rocket science that it will eventually end up in tears!!

Although I am fully vindicated I feel sorry for your comrades who got devoured by the shabians.