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Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby elias » 20 Jun 2012, 20:17


Hawileyto wrote:Eritrea desired and continues to desire genuine Ethio-Eritrea relationship. What does that mean? It means that a relationship based on mutual respect without eying thy neighbors possession.


How do you reconcile the jailing of Ethiopian opposition leaders with what you stated above? Does mutual respect mean throwing your partner in jail?



Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby EriProdigy » 20 Jun 2012, 20:26


Deqi-HaraE

Seyoum Harestay died 7 years ago due to his health and age, he was one of the founders of the ELF and later joined EPLF like many of his comrades who are now aether dead or imprisoned in Era Ero.

As to meskerem.net shabia's silly covert propaganda media I hardly care less what he has to say!

For more in formation and history on Seyom Harestay...go here http://www.harnnet.org/index.php/news-and-articles/768-a-draft-obituary-cum-eulogy-for-era-ero-prisoner-no-4-



Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby Akele » 20 Jun 2012, 20:33


Who killed Seyoum Harestay in Addis abeba? :lol: And why do you think, his website supporters Meskerem.net which was extreme opponents of the Eritrean government pre his death, all of a sudden became pro-Government?

Beside this...As wikileaks revealed..."While Eritreans are extremly good when it comes to Organize Ethiopian oppositions, Ethiopia on the other hand, doesnt have the organizational skill of Eritrea to counter them with the same method"

And this is not my statement but your masters words. hence chew it or throw it.

jigna from swiss
mechem hasot bahri nay hgdef mendef eyu. pay attention nigga, the reason why there are no armed eritrean fighting the so called gov't is simple eko, we don't want to kill our own warsay brothers and sisters who are serving at gun point, terediuka halay. zifesese dem yiaklena, nusukum halayat hateftef aytibelu. second, who giv't a rats azz what wedi genereal (meskerem.net) owner has to say any more lol kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk. wedi general is an undercover pfdj. its pretty pathetic you try to back your worthless claim by bringin the bankrupt, spinless wedi general lol kkkkk furthermore sium harestay died of old age.

jigna from swiss, seb wedi seb enda arege yilibim ember enda arege do asha, halay yikewin. ab gize erganka, kedami nay wilke melakie koinka. hasawi lekbat. by the way can you tell us what wikileaks said about tifanos wedi berad lolkkkkkkkkkkkk
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Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby elias » 20 Jun 2012, 20:36


EriProdigy wrote:Elias,

Again you are comparing apples with oranges. Eritrean oppositions are not woyanne puppets, they don't have the problems you experienced with shabia.

Infact the difference is night and day. Just to give you few important example, unlike TPDM or EPPF who are lead by shabia from your own admission, there are no Eritrean opposition in Ethiopia who are lead by woyane. No Eritrean opposition reported a single unlawful wrong doing by the "woyanes" no illegal imprisonment, no illegal interference within parties or organisational umbrellas like the Eritrean Democratic Alliance (EDA) or the newly formed ENC.

There are at least 14 Eritrean political organisations working in Ethiopia, verticality non of them reported any problem of interference in their business. This is not to say that the "Ethiopian Gov" doesn't try to influence its interests in these organisations without making them their puppet. On that bases the Eritrean opposition in Ethiopia are definitely not a puppets, like TPDM or EPPF!!


I agree that TPDM and EPPF have been forced into becoming puppet groups, but where I disagree with you is that those opposition leaders who are thrown in jail for refusing to become puppets and have formed an independent organization are not puppets. Following the arrest of those opposition leaders, I stopped working with Shabia. Had I continued working with Shabia while my comrades languish in jail, I could legitimately be called a puppet. I don't want to condemn the Eritrean opposition groups as puppets. It is your twisted logic that is condemning them as puppets.



Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby YeSat-Nebelbal » 20 Jun 2012, 21:08


Elias is too naive, he is so naive he does not know where his interest lies. TPDM is becoming a powerful force, and EPPF is doing as good as it can given the circumstances of the times and lack of support from 20 million Ethiopians (calling their mother tongue Amarigna). How come TPDM, despite its Tigre nature is able to mount such a powerful force and EPPF the primary victim of TPLF is unable to mount half the force TPDM has?

After answering those and similar other questions, you will find the answer.



Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby }:-{] » 20 Jun 2012, 21:21


elias wrote:Beka is a slogan that calls for an end to the Woyanne rule in Ethiopia. Writing Beka slogan on walls is part of Tinsae Ethiopia’s civil resistance campaign that includes economic boycott, disabling Woyanne’s economic infrastructure, and helping create a transitional government to replace Woyanne. See photos here: http://tinsae.org/index/?p=15099

The arrest of of Tinsae Ethiopia's 2 senior leaders, Col Tadesse Muluneh and Col. Abebe Geresu, by Eritrean government is big setback, but the fledgling organization is regrouping and taking actions again. The two leaders were thrown in jail by Eritrean authorities just us Tinsae Ethiopia prepared to launch a civil resistance campaign in several cities in Ethiopia. I have lost any hope that the Eritrean gov't will play a positive role in helping bring change in Ethiopia. What the Eritrean gov't wants is puppet groups like TPDM that they can install in Arat Kilo -- the same way they brought TPLF to power, which turned out to be a disaster for them. Trying to install puppet groups like TPDM is already backfiring on the Eritrean regime. Currently, the level of resentment among Ethiopians toward the Eritrean gov't is back to where it was when Shabia and Woyanne were working together. This is because of the narrow-mindedness of the Eritrean leadership that resorted to a zero-sum game instead of working for a win-win situation for both Ethiopia and Eritrea. The arrest of Taddesse and Abebe, in particular, is unbelievably idiotic as it has absolutely no benefit for the Eritrean gov't, but the damage it has caused on the effort to forge a working relationship between Ethiopian opposition groups and Eritrean gov't is incalculable. The conventional Ethiopian thinking toward Shabia has turned out to be on the mark, and my theory that Shabia wants a genuine relation with Ethiopian opposition groups has been debunked by the actions of the Eritrean gov't itself. I came to this conclusion very reluctantly, and a recent nasty email exchange with a Shabia cadre in Washington DC named Amanuel Andeberhan tells it all. I will post that email exchange here in due time.


Something doesn't make sense here ? How could the alleged arrest of the organization's most senior leaders happen in Eritrea, if the organization is an Ethiopian organization that is operating in Ethiopia. The logic is shakey at least and ...........at most



Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby eden » 20 Jun 2012, 21:30


akele and EriProdgy,

meskerem.net is pfdj pet project much like ethiopiafirst.com is tplf project. deqi-arawit is not savvy enough to tell although all the evidence is there. deqi-arawit lacks sophistication. he is good for cursing, name calling and trash talking and his every posts are testament to that. he is incapable of reason and rational thought. he is an emotional baggage, stuffed inside a human skin, recycling colonial garbage. as long as he is on this site, don't expect him to change. he is made to last. thank you colonializm for that! lol



Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby Deqi-Arawit » 20 Jun 2012, 21:48


Eden wrote:akele and EriProdgy,

meskerem.net is pfdj pet project much like ethiopiafirst.com is tplf project. deqi-arawit is not savvy enough to tell although all the evidence is there. deqi-arawit lacks sophistication. he is good for cursing, name calling and trash talking and his every posts are testament to that. he is incapable of reason and rational thought. he is an emotional baggage, stuffed inside a human skin, recycling colonial garbage. as long as he is on this site, don't expect him to change. he is made to last. thank you colonializm for that! lol


Borqaqsher {erifaggy,eden, aklesunkul, EPRDF}

If i obtained one coin every time you used the word savvy, i could be a millionare by now :lol: You are misusing and abusing the word and you put it in place where it never suits....Should we blame it on the [deleted] disablity to evolve or there is other reason which is beyond me? kakakakak. Strike number one

Colonial Garbage.
Deqi never mourned and blamed others for his misfortune...."The reason we [deleted] to speak our mother tongue is amhara fault" is the classical blame of the [deleted] tribe, hence no one has the audacity to blame me for having a colonial garbage. Strike number two

Incapable of reason

When every member of the [deleted] tribe see every thing between earth, space and ocean through the prism of Shaebia and Shaebians..i dont think i can be blamed for a person who lack reason and logic. strike number three

thank you colonializm for that!


First of all, it is colonialism with S not Z plus i refer you to strike number two to see for yourself who are the people who suffer from inadequacy and deep rooted inferior complex. :lol: Strike number four

Your Goita
Deqi arawit



Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby quindibu » 20 Jun 2012, 22:13


Eden wrote:akele and EriProdgy, meskerem.net is pfdj pet project much like ethiopiafirst.com is tplf project. deqi-arawit is not savvy enough to tell although all the evidence is there. deqi-arawit lacks sophistication. he is good for cursing, name calling and trash talking and his every posts are testament to that. he is incapable of reason and rational thought. he is an emotional baggage, stuffed inside a human skin, recycling colonial garbage. as long as he is on this site, don't expect him to change. he is made to last. thank you colonializm for that! lol


:lol: :lol: Sometimes I don't know whether to cry or laugh when I read your posts. In this case, I chose the latter, for ocean of tears would never be a cure to your malady; the same malady that afflicted your First Lady. I remember, how I cringed in embarrassment at a ceremony held in Washington, when your First Lady insisted on making a speech in a foreign language she's never learned at school. She seems oblivious to the fact that there are people out there who can see through her for what she is. And my friend, you belong in Azeb's team since you share the same gene and environment as she is (She is Gondere/Tigrian). Not knowing your limitation or not knowing yourself is the worst kind of disease for its remedy is within the person who has been afflicted with the disease.
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Re: Tinsae Ethiopia relaunches BEKA campaign in Ethiopia despite Shabia sabotage

Postby Red Sea » 20 Jun 2012, 23:36


All the real ethiopians should look at their mirrors and would see their own images of the coward Elias's image or should I say images of every single one of yourselves in his image.
This guy got nerves to accuse Eritrea because two big mouthed ethiopians are presumably in Eritrea's jail and is thus unable to fight the woyanes. Does tinsae has only two (the ones in jail) members? Or better yet what would happen to that group had these two guys died in the battle field against the woyanes. Way to go Elias the coward. You are learning...... escape goating Eritrea from your masters to the tee.
If having big mouthed, internet tigers, "beqa and zerfaf, zeraf" sayers was the barometer of freeing a nation, ethiopia could have been the only free nation in this world. Elias and majority of the ethiopians in this form are case in point. If he really wants to fight woyane he should go to where the woyanes are and die for his causes rather than expecting Eritrea to further his agendas putting aside its own interests.
From all people I would have thought you should know how shaebia works by now. Shaebia plans its work and works its plan to an obvious win win result and you are not in a position to doubt what the Eritrean leadership is about to accomplish. You just need to sit your fat and cry baby azz, behind your shield (PC) and watch for your dream is for some one to do your job. You will do another 180 degrees to come back and praise our leadership. Not that they need it from your kinds though.
Now, you might believe that TPDM might turn up to be an Eritrean puppet leadership if it gets to power, but trust me Eritrea does not care who rules ethiopia so long it does not f**k around with us like TPLF. Besides what does Eritrea need from ethiopia that it needs to have a friendly government in ethiopia? Nothing!!! All Eritrea wants is to live in peace with its neighbors and mind its business if the others do like wise.
And if liberating ethiopia is your goal, why does it matter to you whether it becomes free of woyane by TPDM or tinsae? If tinsae was better organized in quality and quantity than TDPM did it cross your mind that shaebia would have opted with it? And getting organized is yours and every ethiopians obligation before you beg for hideout, training, arms. Eritrea can give you the horses and provide you with vast fields, but it is not going to gallop for you.

PS:
Quit acting like a child by choosing what color is the horse you want to gallop.
Beggars can not be choosers.
Action speaks louder than words.
Freedom does not fall in ones lap by accident, while one is typing on his key pad on ER smearing Eritrea.
One need to put his neck on the chopping block for his causes.
It is shameful to expect the poor people of ethiopia to fight for you, while you are drinking tej and eating kitfo in your comfort.
It is a sin to use the images of the martyrs and woyane inmates of ethiopia as your avators, if you are not willing to avenge their death by real actions. That is like you are dancing on top of their graves and in their jail houses.
Above all, it is very shame full to be ruled by the lowest of the lows (woyanes-@@gg@@mes) for this long.

http://youtu.be/sSXDFXplYwU

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