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Postby sony » 20 Apr 2007, 17:46


Bwendimu,

If the Woyanes are so victorious, why do you go around from forum to forum and cry?

You don't need to deal with us here. You must have some thing better to do, looting.



Postby lemlem » 20 Apr 2007, 21:17


please Bwendimu and sony, don't change the topic of this thread.

this thread is the last chance to give kinijits a space to save themselves. none of the AAPO kinijits have been able to disprove the original statements of this thread.

let us give them a chance here to find a way.

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Re: Why kinijit failed & why EPRDF STILL better !!!

Postby kunta konte » 20 Apr 2007, 21:35


Fool dreamer!!!!!


lemlem wrote:WELCOME to the unbeatable thread, the thread that killed and buried Kinijit's main policies on land division inside ethiopia,on language, on asseb and many others..... WELCOME to THE NIGHTMARE THREAD OF AAPO, THE THREAD of the YEAR !!!
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there are many things i hate about woyane, and the # one thing was how the violent election riots were handled. it failed to show that its police force has matured or improved.
But to our pleasure, i heard that the EPRDF led police and other riot control security forces are training on how to use nonviolent methods like using water force to control riots.

But the fundamental issues remain clear to me and i want someone to disprove me with facts and reason.

here it is.

These two issues are the main problems that Kinijit brings and 80% of Ethiopians will continue to oppose kinijit because of these

#1

The indirect wage of war against Eritrea called by Kinijit.
On the kinijit manifesto Chapter 1.56 it says
http://www.kinijit.org/static/KINIJIT-MANIFESTO-English-ver-1.0.pdf "KINIJIT is different from all other political parties in that it is the only political party
that has in its program openly put as its political objective the historic right of Ethiopia to have an
outlet to the sea."


This quote above shows that kinijit needs to take the asseb and other eastern lands of eritrea in order to achieve its manifesto. No one in this world will give you almost 20% of its land without fighting it a long long war!!! Not just in land issue, this would create economic issue for eritrea because their number one goal is to be like Singapore for the huge ethiopia. they wanted to dominate this part of the economic sector and that was and that is why shabya is still fighting us and still arming contradicting rebels to completely fragment ethiopia.

How can something this important for eritrea in so many ways can be taken away by kinijit?? only by an endless war which ofcourse ethiopia will win BUT it will be one of the biggest and longest wars in history and it will go on and on even after kinijit takes asseb and occupy east eritrea.

it will also harm our country diplomatically,internationally. it can also create a religious war just like ICU almost succeeded last december. but this time is could be bigger because iran, libya are already sided with shabya. But just looking at it in general and in all honesty we can see how terrible this will be.


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Knowing that--OLF was the voice of millions of oromos but now its support is only diaspora and few sympathizers.

Knowing that--If the system goes back to pre-1992 system of provincal land division that disempowers the nationalities who were never under "ethiopia" before mid 18th century, it would be like going back to "ha hu hi ha" for OLF and ESPECIALLY for the more radical other oromo separatists.

Knowing that-- if the current woyane system didn't allow oromo language equality, if the current woyane system didn't divide land by ethnicity to return it back to pre-mid18th century land allocation form, if the current woyane land/language/etc system didn't give OPDO and OFDM the oromo support they needed to withstand OLF and other radical oromo separatists, IF ALL of these DID NOT happen- since it would put us back to the pre-1992 system and since it would give all oromos a reason to fully support OLF after losing these fundamental land/language rights they had after the drafting of woyane/OLF constitution in mid 1990s

THEN--how can Kinijit say it would force all ethiopians to learn amharic and for amharic to dominate all institutions & colleges?? how can Kinijit say it will bring the system of land division back to pre-1992 of using PROVINCES?? also how can then kinijit defeat the oromo opposition not just from outside but also opposition from EVERY inch of Oromia land, after all those rights oromo people had under woyane system (which was drafted by OLF in 1993) is completely ERASED by kinijit???

for more information read what OLF said here about CUD/KINIJIT --
"Regardless of neo-Nafxanya’s backward-looking political programs that call for war with Eritrea (with the hope of capturing Assab), eliminate nations’ rights to establish their identities, eliminate nations’ already nominal federalism and privatize land. They plan all these priori measures to prepare the ground to eventually roll the nation back to the Nafxanya system should they win this election. Despite all these potentially catastrophic missions of the neo-nafxanya political organizations, the people, especially the Finfinne population, elected the Coalition for Unity and Democracy (CUD) politicians to power.
The competing candidate, the CUD, is the greater of the two evils. The neo-Nafxanyas never learn from history. They are set to repeat all the mistakes of their Nafxanya predecessors. This group will not hesitate to revive the old Nafxanya policy of divide and rule. Even before grabbing power, they are busy planning how to partition the Oromos and other nationalities along rivers and hills into miniature provinces to effectively weaken the unity of the Oromo and other southern peoples so that they could easily prey on them. They are busy preparing to deny nations’ their constitutional rights to self-determination etc. These are deportments that might lead hell to break loose in that country leading to another round of civil war, shames and woes. http://oromoliberationfront.org/Publications/OS_Vol11_1_Ellection2005.htm





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these two fundamental issues is the reason most people think EPRDF is still better than kinijit.

so why do some confused people still think kinijit is good???
i don't hate kinijit but i just don't think their policies are practical.
someone please try to use reason and dialogue to disprove this.


thank you.



Postby lemlem » 23 Apr 2007, 15:56


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Postby A.Geremew » 24 Apr 2007, 08:20


Ooliqqa,

Don't lie too much. Hailu Shawl is the most inspirational and assertive leader Ethiopia had neber had in the history. He is a great leader as compared to others and talented to mobilise the people of Ethiopia to resist the Woyane regime and to end the oppression through the multi national basis of the united struggle. That is the only way to remove the murderous regime forever and to bring your freedom and democracy. The tribal agenda the TPLF approaching and the OLF leaders are fighting would never freed the people of Ethiopia ever.



Postby lemlem » 24 Apr 2007, 10:09


actually CUD got some votes in oromia. read the old news and you will see that they told the people that oromos will not have to pay any tax ever again. what a disgraceful way to campaign. they used the so-called "unity" in amhara region to bring back past amhara-domination of ethiopian language, culture, economy and politics...meanwhile they knew that the woyane policy and constitution was drafted by OLF itself in the early 1990s. so they used this sick tax eliminiation strategy to get pity votes from oromia!!


anyway, please let us stick to the topic of this thread.. this has been the thread that buried all of kinijit's policies

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Postby Bekeken » 24 Apr 2007, 12:09


But the oromo people didn't allow them to open office in oromia.Some of the office closed down by the people and told them they don't belong there.



olliqqa,

You are wrong and don't confuse the OPDOs with the oromo people. It was the OPDO/TPLF that was subbotaging the CUDs during the election in oromia. CUDP got almost more than 80% of the oromos support. I am a living witness on this. okay

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