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Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Semira » 14 Feb 2010, 01:54


Mitmita wrote:eden, the "Tigrigna" ethnicity in ertra are the extended family of Tigres in Ethiopia.


Belaynesh...eris life style and pride is eating you alive. get over it setiyo. they don't like to associate their name with you. Eritrean Tigrina people have the upper hand on this issue. They refuse and you often chase and beg them to enter in their livelyhood. how funny :lol: :lol:



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby eden » 14 Feb 2010, 01:55


Mitmita,

Let's avoid going in circles. You and I agree because as far as I'm concerned hamasen, akale guzai, serae, axum, shire, adwa, adigrat, enderta is one ethnic group, that's why i put "tigrigna" in quotations because i know it's total fiction.

don't be surprised a tigrian such as isayas separated and led Eritrea because it happens all the time in the world. weird but it does happen. don't forget the afar also got divided, not just the tigre/ tigray.

Here is the family tree of Isayas http://www.royalark.net/Ethiopia/tigray5.htm



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby EriFreedomFighter » 14 Feb 2010, 02:04


Eden wrote:Mitmita,

Let's avoid going in circles. You and I agree because as far as I'm concerned hamasen, akale guzai, serae, axum, shire, adwa, adigrat, enderta is one ethnic group, that's why i put "tigrigna" in quotations because i know it's total fiction.

don't be surprised a tigrian such as isayas separated and led Eritrea because it happens all the time in the world. weird but it does happen. don't forget the afar also got divided, not just the tigre/ tigray.

Here is the family tree of Isayas http://www.royalark.net/Ethiopia/tigray5.htm


Your intelligence is artificial. I speak Spanish so the Spaniards must also be my brother. Abyssinians are Agews and Oromos who adopted Axumite culture over time. You don't even speak good Tigrinya in Tigray. Facts are facts, I know it debunks your Solomonic myth, but accept reality, it will only make you stronger!

nice website, I didn't know Ethiopians were this interested in web design. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby eden » 14 Feb 2010, 02:11


You don't even speak good Tigrinya in Tigray. Facts are facts.


I'm telling you a Tigrigna speaker from mekhoni (the southern most of Tigray) laughs his azz of from hearing a hamassienay talk in a cafe in Tsaeda Asmara [not because he thinks theirs is poorer but different]. This is what happens in the streets.

Here is a bigger point for you: there is more similarity between Tigrigna spoken between Simejana [Eritrea] and Adigrat [Ethiopia] than there is between Simejana [Ethiopia] and Enderta [Ethiopia]. This is simple truth.
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Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Semira » 14 Feb 2010, 02:12


Eden wrote:Mitmita,

Let's avoid going in circles. You and I agree because as far as I'm concerned hamasen, akale guzai, serae, axum, shire, adwa, adigrat, enderta is one ethnic group, that's why i put "tigrigna" in quotations because i know it's total fiction.

don't be surprised a tigrian such as isayas separated and led Eritrea because it happens all the time in the world. weird but it does happen. don't forget the afar also got divided, not just the tigre/ tigray.

Here is the family tree of Isayas http://www.royalark.net/Ethiopia/tigray5.htm


Eden

i used to subscribe to your definition above due to lack of understanding and knowledge of the people. I have placed an example earlier. I see there is a big gap between Behere Tigrigna and Tigray. My study on this matter shows that there is two distinct entities which reflects the present reality. If what you say is true, we wouldn't have seen Behere-Tigrigna in Eritrea. They have so many distinct features that separates them from you and make them a single entity. they often do not like to get married with Tigray. and if one did, it is a taboo. the jokes, slurs and attitude shows that your wishfull thinking is totally wrong. we don't see such thing on Afars, Oromos or Amharas against each other even though these ones i mentioned are geographically sparce. Thus, Tigray and Tigrigna are two separate entities they may share some values but they are separate entities



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Semira » 14 Feb 2010, 02:17


Eden wrote:Here is a bigger point for you: there is more similarity between Tigrigna spoken between Simejana [Eritrea] and Adigrat [Ethiopia] than there is between Simejana [Ethiopia] and Enderta [Ethiopia]. This is simple truth.


Dude:

If language is a factor for ethnicity, Ofcourse an american who lives in Buffallo New york speaks similar to A canadian across the border than an american who lives in Texas. Your logic is busted here



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby eden » 14 Feb 2010, 02:24


Semira,

You are wrong. The marriage rate between "tigrigna" and tigray people is higher than you think. As a matter of fact, there are lots of "Tigrigna" leaders married to Tigrians and there are many Tigray leaders married to "Tigrignas."

You say you noticed differences and you are not lying. But I have to tell you it's very amplified and exaggerated. To begin with, there is no such thing called "tigrigna" ethnic group. It's an invention by PFDJ/ HIGDEF. If you want to prove this to yourself, google and see the first time the term "tigrigna" ethnic group [not tigrigna language] was ever used. It doesn't go past 2 decades. This is just the creation of the political environment of the recent decades which are characterised by intense competition between the two faak ups led by zenawi and aforqi. Other than that, there is no much historical or cultural difference.

If language is a factor for ethnicity, Ofcourse an american who lives in Buffallo New york speaks similar to A canadian across the border than an american who lives in Texas. Your logic is busted here


I see what you trying to do here but I give you another example. Adigrat is closer to Asmara than Axum and Adwa is to Asmara but Adigrat tigrigna accent is the odd one out despite its proximity to Asmara.



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Mitmita » 14 Feb 2010, 02:25


Eden wrote:Mitmita,

Let's avoid going in circles. You and I agree because as far as I'm concerned hamasen, akale guzai, serae, axum, shire, adwa, adigrat, enderta is one ethnic group, that's why i put "tigrigna" in quotations because i know it's total fiction.


don't be surprised a tigrian such as isayas separated and led Eritrea because it happens all the time in the world. weird but it does happen. don't forget the afar also got divided, not just the tigre/ tigray.

Here is the family tree of Isayas http://www.royalark.net/Ethiopia/tigray5.htm


8) 8)

Such a story may happen in the world, but most of the time, they are a result of colonization! But, here we have ertra fought for "independence" and ended up being colonized by a man from little Tembien!! :lol: :lol:

Actually, I'm surprised and still waiting for askaris to explain - why they worship a man from Tigray as their God the creator, while they bash Tigray?? Delusion?? :roll:



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby eden » 14 Feb 2010, 02:29


Actually, I'm surprised and still waiting for askaris to explain - why they worship a man from Tigray as their God the creator, while they bash Tigray?? Delusion??


You are not reading me. I just told you Isayas is not Tigray although his parents are. Children doesn't necessarily assume the ethnicity of their parents. He is "Tigrigna" which is Eritrean. Get it?



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Mitmita » 14 Feb 2010, 02:35


I don't see an Oromo from Wollega showing attitude towards an Oromo to Bale or an Amhara from Gonder showing animosity to an Amhara to Wollo or Shoa.


Semira, attitude happen in every ethnic group, it's a mechanisim to survive- to stay as distinct gosa or bihere :wink: I think you should stick to your "tigrigna beher" :idea:

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