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Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Bashu » 14 Feb 2010, 14:33


Semira wrote:[
I have met scores of Eritreans from tigrigna beher, and so far none of them had said they are part of the ethnic group in Tigray. They say the share certain aspects of life much like they share other tribes in their surroundings. The fact that 99.9% went for independence and their unhidden attitude towards Tigrayans says it all that these two are two separate entities that have never been one and will never be one.

I don't see an Oromo from Wollega showing attitude towards an Oromo to Bale or an Amhara from Gonder showing animosity to an Amhara to Wollo or Shoa. or an afar from Eritrea or Djibuti showing animosity to an Afar in Ethiopia. Not to the liking of Belaynesh and Revelation, Eritrean Tigrigna didn't want any association with Tigray people


So just because of what self hating eritreans say about their brothers in the south makes their claim true?. I thought you were smarter than that. Everybody knows about what the eri Tigres think of Ethiopian tigres but that doesn't make it they are two different groups. The delusional eritreans reminding me of some helf hating black americans who claims they have indian ancestry to avoid being called full blooded black.

The two groups are like the Amharas, who live in different provinces Gojam, Gonder and wello. They may have slight differences in their accent, culture etc, but over all they are the same people. Don't forget Gonder amhara thinks he is better than Gojame , wello or shewa Amhara and vice versa but they are not bitter with each other like Eritrean and Ethiopian tigres. Oh, and the wellega Oromos think they are the cream of the crop of all oromos.

Prior to Italy colonization of Eritrea their tigre brothers in ethiopia were the movers and shakers of eritrea, Eritrea was practically run but EthiopianTigres untill the Italians came to Eritrea and the tide turns in favor of eritreans .

I can understand the low lander eris claim having little or no kinship to ethiopian tigres. after all It was them who started the eritrean independence struggle while the overwhelming majority of highlanders wanted integration with ethiopia.



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby EriFreedomFighter » 14 Feb 2010, 14:58


Mitmita wrote:
Eritreans being proud of Axum is just stating the obvious and just one part of our history, since we are home to other kingdoms.


:lol: :lol: KemereQu AweCHilign, kesigaw Tomegna negn ale :lol: :lol:

anyways, ascari pls list ertra's kingdoms :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Amhara donkey let me help you out

Axum
D'mt
Adulis
Beja
Republic of Hamasien


What about yours? Wait, your people didn't exist until the 1300s. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bashu, save your brotherhood crap for Ethiopia before it breaks into 9 pieces. I can see the tigrinya fable story is still in use by Tigrayans as a least plea before the Oromos over power you. It is just a matter of time. :lol: :lol: :lol:

* And to just note African Americans on average have 20% European genes. You just killed your own logic. :lol: :lol:

People of Tigray: destructive lying people who have only brought pain and misery to the people of Eritrea and to the oppressed in Ethiopia. I'm proud that my ancestor severed the head of your so called king. :lol: :lol: so why don't you get the hint already?



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby ProudEthiopian » 14 Feb 2010, 16:41


lets say the Great Amaras are more evolved. Of course speaking linguistically.

Just like the newest version of windows is more evolved or advanced than the older one.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



EriFreedomFighter wrote:
Mitmita wrote:
Eritreans being proud of Axum is just stating the obvious and just one part of our history, since we are home to other kingdoms.


:lol: :lol: KemereQu AweCHilign, kesigaw Tomegna negn ale :lol: :lol:

anyways, ascari pls list ertra's kingdoms :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Amhara donkey let me help you out

Axum
D'mt
Adulis
Beja
Republic of Hamasien


What about yours? Wait, your people didn't exist until the 1300s. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bashu, save your brotherhood crap for Ethiopia before it breaks into 9 pieces. I can see the tigrinya fable story is still in use by Tigrayans as a least plea before the Oromos over power you. It is just a matter of time. :lol: :lol: :lol:

* And to just note African Americans on average have 20% European genes. You just killed your own logic. :lol: :lol:

People of Tigray: destructive lying people who have only brought pain and misery to the people of Eritrea and to the oppressed in Ethiopia. I'm proud that my ancestor severed the head of your so called king. :lol: :lol: so why don't you get the hint already?



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Semira » 14 Feb 2010, 16:53


EritreanSlaveFighter

get your facts straight. There is a distinctive population that is known as Proto-Tigray and Proto-Amhara who was responsible for Axumite civilzation. you are just calling locations like adulis and Dimt to justify your cause. Read history and come back. Eritrean population was a mere 500,000 one hundred years ago when the Italians set foot. If you go back to 2,000 years ago, that number is logically will be less than 10,000 and a population of 10,000 wouldn't form a wereda let alone an empire like axum.

Tigrayans are ruling in Addis ababa now. and that doesn' t make Addis Ababa the civilization of Tigrayans. It is often hard to converse with chicken brain sized people like you.



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby EriFreedomFighter » 14 Feb 2010, 17:00


Semira wrote:EritreanSlaveFighter

get your facts straight. There is a distinctive population that is known as Proto-Tigray and Proto-Amhara who was responsible for Axumite civilzation. you are just calling locations like adulis and Dimt to justify your cause. Read history and come back. Eritrean population was a mere 500,000 one hundred years ago when the Italians set foot. If you go back to 2,000 years ago, that number is logically will be less than 10,000 and a population of 10,000 wouldn't form a wereda let alone an empire like axum.

Tigrayans are ruling in Addis ababa now. and that doesn' t make Addis Ababa the civilization of Tigrayans. It is often hard to converse with chicken brain sized people like you.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: And I am the president of the United States. :lol: :lol:

Silly Ethiopians, what else did the Kibre Negast tell you? :lol: :lol:



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Semira » 14 Feb 2010, 17:11


Bashu wrote:The two groups are like the Amharas, who live in different provinces Gojam, Gonder and wello. They may have slight differences in their accent, culture etc, but over all they are the same people. Don't forget Gonder amhara thinks he is better than Gojame , wello or shewa Amhara and vice versa but they are not bitter with each other like Eritrean and Ethiopian tigres. Oh, and the wellega Oromos think they are the cream of the crop of all oromos.


Bashu

I used to think the same way. But the facts on the ground show a different story. Yes there are smaller entities in Amhara group usually known as Gonderes, Gojjame, shoa and wolloye. But you don't see such animosity to the point of slurs and derogatory words against each other. Infact, you often here songs from all those regions praising the beauty of one another in a form of complements. You don't see that between the subject topic (Tigray and beher-Tigrigna). And we know the colonial era has ended long time ago. but the attitude is the same. this shows the psycological differences between the two people

For Tigrayans ruling over Eritrean-Tigrigna, yes i do agree it was often that case. But In Eritrea, there was a governership called Behir-Nigus that paid the same tribute to the central government and in those medieval times, both Tigray and Eritrea did have governors who often pay tax for the Emperors at Gondar. The one in Eritrea (Bahir-Nigus) was ended by Sersa-Dingil when the king of Bahir-Negus collaborated with Turkey against Abyssinia ending that system there forever. It was after that war lords from Tigray start to rule over Eritreans

Shabias account of that story tells like this

After their occupation of Kebesa, the Turks got into war with Bahri Negasi Yitzhak and were defeated in Debarwa. After three years, Bahri Negasi Yitzhak began protesting against the kings of Ethiopia and in order to defeat the Ethiopians he asked for help from Turks but the Ethiopian ruler at that time, King Sertsedingle, defeated both the Turks and Bahri Negash Yitzhak in the first battle in which Bahri Negash Yitzhak was killed. After the death of Bahri Negasi Yitzhak, the Kebsa was repeatedly invaded and looted by the Kings of Ethiopia. The Turks retreated to the coastal area and governed it for 300 years, and during all this time the land was administered through the local representative, known as Naibs.


http://www.shabait.com/about-eritrea/hi ... in-eritrea



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Semira » 14 Feb 2010, 17:17


EriFreedomFighter wrote: And I am the president of the United States.

Silly Ethiopians, what else did the Kibre Negast tell you?


If you have facts that is supported by source, bring it for the test. But if you are just mumbling, i advise you to refrain since the topic had attracted the interest of many and i can see only your message that is full of bigotry.



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Mitmita » 14 Feb 2010, 17:35


Axum
D'mt
Adulis
Beja
Republic of Hamasien


What about yours? Wait, your people didn't exist until the 1300s.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ascari, I asked you to come up with the list of ertra's "kingdoms", not Ethiopian :wink: I know you have nothing to show for your bravado :lol: :lol: Anyways, I'll help with that, since you don't seem to know your history :mrgreen:

The kingdom of Ertra begins in 1993 :mrgreen: Issayas is the life time king of ertra from Tembien, Tigray :lol: :lol:

Many Eritreans sided with the Italians because no Eritrean trusted the A*games in the first place. They've always reckless warlords who entered Eritrea to enslave our native Eritreans (Kunamas),...


Asa gorguari, Zendo yaweTal :wink:

By your own admission, the natives of ertra are the KUNAMAS!! They are asking you to leave their land! the Tigrares in Tigray are saying no to you, the Kunamas and Afaris.. are saying no to you...mts mts mts...You have no country!

BTW, a little bird told me also the Kunamas, and the Agews are the original Axumites. The kunamas and the Afaris, Bejas, Tigres...belong to the Oromo, Guraghe and Agew ethnic groups. Axum itself is a Kunama word...Oops!

Eden, what does your research say about this??



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby EriFreedomFighter » 14 Feb 2010, 18:06


Mitmita wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ascari, I asked you to come up with the list of ertra's "kingdoms", not Ethiopian :wink: I know you have nothing to show for your bravado :lol: :lol: Anyways, I'll help with that, since you don't seem to know your history :mrgreen:

The kingdom of Ertra begins in 1993 :mrgreen: Issayas is the life time king of ertra from Tembien, Tigray :lol: :lol:


Amhara adgi, these kingdoms encompassed Eritrea. What now you have Bejas in Tigre speakers in Ethiopia now? :lol: :lol: Remember you didn't exist back then, you were most likely speaking Oromo. Go find yourself. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ethiopia is home to no ancient history in terms of civilizations, most of it was present day Eritrea, and a narrow strip of Tigray. No Amharas existed back then, you are a new phenomenon. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




To everything else you just wrote just proves my point. Amharas and A*game adghis have been reduced to petty baseless insults. "Ascari" this, tribal that. It just shows the readers how bad and desperate Ethiopia has become. I guess it is in its final stages before the fake Empire collapses, faster than Tekeze dam. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Re: Gud Naw!!!

Postby Bashu » 14 Feb 2010, 18:35


Semira wrote:
EriFreedomFighter wrote: And I am the president of the United States.

Silly Ethiopians, what else did the Kibre Negast tell you?


If you have facts that is supported by source, bring it for the test. But if you are just mumbling, i advise you to refrain since the topic had attracted the interest of many and i can see only your message that is full of bigotry.


Semira you and OJ never stop from appeasing and praising these shabia rats, and these same shabia rats never stop badmouthing you calling you all the names in the book. It's like a classical case of a battered wife syndrome who never gets enough of an abuse and keep craving it for more.. I would say you deserve it. Likiskis asedabi neger.

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