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Please put your foot on the BRAKE

Postby Semira » 15 Feb 2013, 13:06



We will not be used by TPLF against Ethiopian Muslims. Last time, TPLF used us on Badme, Tserona etc. We fought the fighting and died in tens of thousands. But TPLF used that to glorify itself and extend its exploitative rule. We know the Ethiopian Muslims don't buy the ethnic and language agenda so they are one despite they speak amharic, oromigna, somalinga, etc. Infact they use Amharic without any form of shame. The Ethiopian public should take a neutral side and let the TPLF heroes deal with the mess they created. After all, TPLF a few encouraged a few fanatic Muslims to kill us in bedeno, jimma, asebot, harrar and arusi. Let them reap what they harvested.



Re: Please put your foot on the BRAKE

Postby Yusuf Hiigsi Muzaydi » 15 Feb 2013, 13:20


Dear Semira is still dont understand why the EPRDF regime playing the Ethiopian people against each other with regards of the sectarian and fundamental religious beliefs. Isn't the orthodox church a church both the Amharas and Tigrayans both adhere in respect. Abduwahabism can be easily contained , like in saudi arabia u just need rules and regulations. Ethiopia needs to be aware of Neo salafist jihadists. These are the core problem extremists loyal to no flag loyal to no border they are Alqaeda affiliates, operating in mali and Somalia and parts of Syria and Yemen.

Yusuf Muzaydi
The chief negotiator



Re: Please put your foot on the BRAKE

Postby ze_shewa » 15 Feb 2013, 14:18


the Muslim community are the first to beat the ethnic politics trap set up by woyane, unlike kinjit, u can't label it amhara party or dergist party etc.. and divide them based on it....no, how can they divided the "umma" which does not believe in nations let alone in ethnicity. The only chance to is to divide the society btween christian and muslims, hence the christians have to reassert their hegemony over the political system. How wins, woyane, who loses. ethiopians! beware bothers and sisters, lets protect the state... woyane is at its end of its life and if be, they will bring the country down with them... just ask sebhat



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Postby Dejach Aklilu » 15 Feb 2013, 14:45


ze_shewa wrote:the Muslim community are the first to beat the ethnic politics trap set up by woyane, unlike kinjit, u can't label it amhara party or dergist party etc.. and divide them based on it....no, how can they divided the "umma" which does not believe in nations let alone in ethnicity. The only chance to is to divide the society btween christian and muslims, hence the christians have to reassert their hegemony over the political system. How wins, woyane, who loses. ethiopians! beware bothers and sisters, lets protect the state... woyane is at its end of its life and if be, they will bring the country down with them... just ask sebhat


That's is very true. Realistically speaking, woyanne will most likely take the country with it if it loses power. It will most likely start a re-negotiation and rehabilitate its relationship with seccesionist forces like Olf and ONLF, which would be to their delight. And distribute power amongst them in their respective regions. While ONLF and OLF fight over places like Harar and Dire dawa which both sides claim, while OLF and other Ethiopianists fight over shewa and wollo, woyanne will quietly retreat back to tigray. Anybody can imagin what will follow, chaos and anarchy will erupt in Ethiopia, while woyane will work hard to persuade the big powers for a recognition of its Tigray republic. Ethiopia is at the mercy of such people!



Re: Please put your foot on the BRAKE

Postby Semira » 15 Feb 2013, 15:03


aklilu and ze-shewa. you guys are innocent like a 14 year old girl who was tricked by a candy to lose her virginity :lol:

when the going gets tough, the entire top TPLF will run to foriegn countries. most convincingly, to the paradise of atlantic and pacific islands where they live lavishly for the rest of their life and their children life with comfort. The little TPLF dogs will run to dedebit but they will run out of everything and give up within a year.

My advice to you innocent virgins is "Don't let weyanne use you as cannon fodders as it used you between 1998-2000". If we did not participate in 1998-2000, Shabia would have broken the vertebrae of TPLF for real good and we would not have seen the 2005 election massacre and the continious abuse of our people. Shabian constant bragging would have been better than the abuse our people are receiving.

Let weyanne deal with the problem it brought in the first place. if you have to preserve the state, organize yourself and don't work under TPLF to preserve it and rule for more years to come. it is bound to fall unceremoniously in front of our eyes. then we will say good by to their big mouthed idiots all over the world



Re: Please put your foot on the BRAKE

Postby Azeb » 15 Feb 2013, 15:20


semira,
Ethiopian muslims are the only group who do not fall for the weyane divide and rule policy ,religion supposed to be like that uniting people for a higher purpose .It has been a year they are going strong without a blink.Their demands are fair.The Ethiopian political leaders should learn alot from the Ethiopian muslim movement and ESAT.



Re: Please put your foot on the BRAKE

Postby siren66 » 15 Feb 2013, 19:47


The Christian side of the equation will soon find out what the Muslims have been going through -- what with the impending Patriarch election. Although most of you are a little too slow to catch up, I stated about 8 months ago what position the Christian side should take. Back then I stated three things

1) The Muslim question in Ethiopia, as it exists now, is of government non-interference in their affairs. This is THE EXACT SAME QUESTION the Ethiopian Orthodox church has.

2) Christians have self-interest in the independence of Muslims from government interference. Islam with "TPLF inside it" will result in "terrorist activities" that are not only religious but political as well. You would not be able to tell when a bomb explodes in the middle of Aids Ababa, whether it is caused by independent terrorists or TPLF. Many terrorist activities inside "Ethiopia" were the works of TPLF. For example, the two minibuses which were bombed in Addis Ababa during the hieght of a political tension were the works of TPLF, according to Wikileaks. If TPLF infiltrates the Ethiopian muslims, it will have had legit cover for similiar civilian carnages whenever its power is challenged.

3) When TPLF sent its "red herring" priests to the USA for a "supposed truce" with the "Ethiopian Western synod", most of you never understood what was going on. Infact what TPLF was doing was keeping you and most importantly "the people in Ethiopia" divereted from the most important event that is going to take place around this time -- the election of a new Patriarch. The important thing to take away from this is that when TPLF is inside "your church" it can send you negotiators that have NO intention of negotiating a peace deal, cadres that have no interest in the religion but playing you a fool. The MUSLIM protest is SOMETHING the Christian part should join and not remain neutral to it.

Semira wrote: the ethiopian mass should take a neutral side and let the TPLF heroes deal with the mess they can't win. :lol: :lol:



Re: !

Postby ethiopianunity » 16 Feb 2013, 13:00


Dejach Aklilu wrote:
ze_shewa wrote:the Muslim community are the first to beat the ethnic politics trap set up by woyane, unlike kinjit, u can't label it amhara party or dergist party etc.. and divide them based on it....no, how can they divided the "umma" which does not believe in nations let alone in ethnicity. The only chance to is to divide the society btween christian and muslims, hence the christians have to reassert their hegemony over the political system. How wins, woyane, who loses. ethiopians! beware bothers and sisters, lets protect the state... woyane is at its end of its life and if be, they will bring the country down with them... just ask sebhat


That's is very true. Realistically speaking, woyanne will most likely take the country with it if it loses power. It will most likely start a re-negotiation and rehabilitate its relationship with seccesionist forces like Olf and ONLF, which would be to their delight. And distribute power amongst them in their respective regions. While ONLF and OLF fight over places like Harar and Dire dawa which both sides claim, while OLF and other Ethiopianists fight over shewa and wollo, woyanne will quietly retreat back to tigray. Anybody can imagin what will follow, chaos and anarchy will erupt in Ethiopia, while woyane will work hard to persuade the big powers for a recognition of its Tigray republic. Ethiopia is at the mercy of such people!



Someone on Nazret blog commented that I believe so many should be thinking of especailly what Semira has been saying using Ethiopians as "cannon fodders" in 1998 by TPLF and Shabia. The commenter said since TPLF has its article 39 in the constitution, that could be waiting for the right moment to force Tigray to secede, therefore if there is any future war comes because of Badme between TPLF and Shabia, Ethiopians should not sacrifice again and lose their blood in vain if that is to occur that Tigray will secede forcibly by TPLF after all why the rest of Ethiopians spill their blood again for the region that secedes that won't belong to Ethiopia no longer. No pun intended to Tigrayans that I like in this forum, if that is going to happen and let us hope it won't.



Re: Please put your foot on the BRAKE

Postby ze_shewa » 16 Feb 2013, 13:24


Semira wrote:aklilu and ze-shewa. you guys are innocent like a 14 year old girl who was tricked by a candy to lose her virginity :lol:

when the going gets tough, the entire top TPLF will run to foriegn countries. most convincingly, to the paradise of atlantic and pacific islands where they live lavishly for the rest of their life and their children life with comfort. The little TPLF dogs will run to dedebit but they will run out of everything and give up within a year.

My advice to you innocent virgins is "Don't let weyanne use you as cannon fodders as it used you between 1998-2000". If we did not participate in 1998-2000, Shabia would have broken the vertebrae of TPLF for real good and we would not have seen the 2005 election massacre and the continious abuse of our people. Shabian constant bragging would have been better than the abuse our people are receiving.

Let weyanne deal with the problem it brought in the first place. if you have to preserve the state, organize yourself and don't work under TPLF to preserve it and rule for more years to come. it is bound to fall unceremoniously in front of our eyes. then we will say good by to their big mouthed idiots all over the world


have u bothered to read what i wrote? what i stated is that woyane is going to try to mobilise christians against the muslims.... just like badme... maybe u were fooled by badme but i have always been consistent and never supported that war and was not fooled with the over-night conversion from 100yrs history to 3000yr history, what i'm saying now is that we should not take that bait, ethiopian muslims have found the kryptonite for ethnnic-politics, it makes woyane's card redundant, the minority government can only survive based on ethnic divisions, hence this muslim "problem" has foreseeable no end for woyane. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT ETHIOPIAN CHRISTIANS SHOULD NOT PART-TAKE IN THIS DANGEROUS GAME... WOYANE ARE WILLING TO BRING RELIGIOUS CHOAS IN ORDER TO HOLD TO POWER!! ETHIOPIANS BEWARE... ANYONE THAT HAS SEEN RECENT ETV PROGRAMS CAN'T DENY THE WOYANE MACHINE IS BAITING THE CHRISTIANS INTO ACTION!!



Re: Please put your foot on the BRAKE

Postby ethiopianunity » 17 Feb 2013, 02:17


ze_shewa wrote:
Semira wrote:aklilu and ze-shewa. you guys are innocent like a 14 year old girl who was tricked by a candy to lose her virginity :lol:

when the going gets tough, the entire top TPLF will run to foriegn countries. most convincingly, to the paradise of atlantic and pacific islands where they live lavishly for the rest of their life and their children life with comfort. The little TPLF dogs will run to dedebit but they will run out of everything and give up within a year.

My advice to you innocent virgins is "Don't let weyanne use you as cannon fodders as it used you between 1998-2000". If we did not participate in 1998-2000, Shabia would have broken the vertebrae of TPLF for real good and we would not have seen the 2005 election massacre and the continious abuse of our people. Shabian constant bragging would have been better than the abuse our people are receiving.

Let weyanne deal with the problem it brought in the first place. if you have to preserve the state, organize yourself and don't work under TPLF to preserve it and rule for more years to come. it is bound to fall unceremoniously in front of our eyes. then we will say good by to their big mouthed idiots all over the world


have u bothered to read what i wrote? what i stated is that woyane is going to try to mobilise christians against the muslims.... just like badme... maybe u were fooled by badme but i have always been consistent and never supported that war and was not fooled with the over-night conversion from 100yrs history to 3000yr history, what i'm saying now is that we should not take that bait, ethiopian muslims have found the kryptonite for ethnnic-politics, it makes woyane's card redundant, the minority government can only survive based on ethnic divisions, hence this muslim "problem" has foreseeable no end for woyane. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT ETHIOPIAN CHRISTIANS SHOULD NOT PART-TAKE IN THIS DANGEROUS GAME... WOYANE ARE WILLING TO BRING RELIGIOUS CHOAS IN ORDER TO HOLD TO POWER!! ETHIOPIANS BEWARE... ANYONE THAT HAS SEEN RECENT ETV PROGRAMS CAN'T DENY THE WOYANE MACHINE IS BAITING THE CHRISTIANS INTO ACTION!!



I think so however, you have to understand there is also more enemies, than TPLF you have to think of. There are now groups outside or inside who would take advantage of this TPLF baiting for their own end game. If Muslims are determined, what then, they are going to claim power and make Ethiopia Islamic. Have you heard when TPLF is being asked to bring democracy they said we have fought and spilled our blood and there fore it is our right to strangle Ethiopia for our benefits, That is what they have been saying. If Islam wins in getting rid of TPLF then, it is not going to hand it to the Christians after the work they have done to get rid of TPLF. They will install Islam with no questions asked with backing of many Arab leage and their neighbors. I definitely would not expect any support from West if they are not getting benefit from Chrisitans, why, because they have backed Muslims against Christians in Yugoslavia war. If the Muslim leadership fulfills their interest, they will continue to support it.. I am not sure a Christian Eritrea will necessarily like it although it will be glad that TPLF is gone. As you heard from most Muslims like Raya... forgot his full nick name in this forum, they are not very clear when they say "rights" that old way of Christian domination should stop means a recipie for Islam domination to me.

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