Al Amoudi’s daughter back in the news


Sarah Al AmoudiSara Al-Amoudi, the allegedly estranged daughter of Ethiopian billionaire businessman Mohammed Al Amoudi, is back in the news on British media after her 30-year-old boyfriend, Patrick Ribbsaeter, tried to attack her and stabbed her driver with a broken wine glass. Ribbsaeter appeared in court yesterday where the prosecutor called him a “gold-digger.”

UK’s Daily Mail:

A ‘gold-digging’ male model dumped by a Saudi Arabian princess after she caught him with two other women attacked her chauffeur in a rage, a court heard yesterday.

The fracas unfolded at the princess’s London flat after a night of drink and drugs, jurors were told.

Swedish model Patrick Ribbsaeter had met Sara Al-Amoudi on holiday in Thailand and the pair became lovers.

The relationship offered the promise of unimaginable wealth to Ribbsaeter, 30, who has modelled for a host of household names, including Calvin Klein, Armani, Gucci and Christian Dior.

But his hopes of a gilded future promptly disappeared when she caught him with the other women in her flat in Victoria, Central London, the court heard.

And after she dumped him, Ribbsaeter, 30, is alleged to have lunged at Miss Al-Amoudi as she slept. At this point her driver Sarkis Tokatlian stepped in to stop him, giving him a bloody nose, but Ribbsaeter smashed a wine glass and stabbed the driver six times in his face before beginning to strangle him, a jury was told.

Prosecutor Martin Whitehouse said the trial showed a world that was a far cry from the ‘idyllic, perhaps artificial’ image painted of the rich by Hello! magazine.

It was a life of ‘drinks, drugs and clubs’, he said, that was ‘in some respects, rather seedy and, of course, there’s violence’.

Pony-tailed Ribbsaeter sat in the dock at Southwark Crown Court wearing an open white shirt exposing his chest as the case against him was outlined.

Mr Whitehouse called him a ‘gold-digger’ and said that while he may appear charming and good-looking, there was another side to him.

‘He’s violent, he’s vain, he’s egocentric,’ the prosecutor said. ‘He’s also, I suggest, a liar and prone to exaggeration.’

The alleged assaults happened after Miss Al-Amoudi and Ribbsaeter went to dinner on a Saturday in September last year following her discovery of the two women.

Mr Tokatlian then drove Miss Al-Amoudi and Ribbsaeter in a Rolls-Royce to dinner, then on to a series of nightclubs, including the Ministry of Sound, before the couple returned to her flat in the early hours of Sunday. It was then that she talked about her future with Ribbsaeter and ‘realised that Patrick was, after all, not the man for her’, the prosecutor said.

Mr Tokatlian returned to the flat after dropping off the car and it became apparent that Ribbsaeter and Miss Al-Amoudi had split up.

The trio talked until Miss Al-Amoudi fell asleep. But Ribbsaeter is then said to have lunged at her, prompting the chauffeur to respond.

After the alleged glass attack, the pair struggled on the floor by the dining table until Ribbsaeter climbed on top of the victim. He grabbed his throat with both hands, and began to strangle him, stopping only when Mr Tokatlian pushed his thumbs into his attacker’s eyes, the court heard.

Mr Whitehouse said: ‘Ribbsaeter intended to cause him really serious harm and he was not acting in self-defence.

‘By the time it had got round to the strangling, Patrick Ribbsaeter had lost it. He wasn’t thinking about her. He was thinking about his future prosperity.

‘When he was found out, and realised he could not charm his way out, he reverted to his other character type – violence.’

The jury was told Ribbsaeter has a previous conviction in Sweden for strangling a different ex-girlfriend.

Ribbsaeter told the jury that Mr Tokatlian was the aggressor and that he had only defended himself.

He said he had been drinking and had taken a tiny quantity of ketamine and an ecstasy tablet while the two others had taken much more.

In interview, Ribbsaeter told police he had seen red, had ‘the strength of ten men’ and added it was a case of ‘kill or be killed’.

Ribbsaeter, of no fixed address, denies causing Mr Tokatlian grievous bodily harm with intent, the alternative charge of inflicting grievous bodily harm, and unlawfully wounding Miss Al-Amoudi during the struggle.

The case continues.


135 comments on “Al Amoudi’s daughter back in the news

  1. Reminder on

    To Assta:

    You are not a Christian. You are a sick man trying to mess up the stability of Ethiopia. If you think you can rally Christians against Muslims based on your misguided view, you are out of your mind. Moron fundamentalists like you were once Serbs in former Yegozlavia, but their hatred and hostile position toward Muslims ended after costly punishment by then Presidant Clinton and Nato. People like you are isolated, and there in nothing you can do to stop the true religion of human being, Islam.

  2. Assta B. Gettu on

    Culprit Buster #103,

    I will charge you for beheading many innocent Christians in the name of your scam religion, Islam!

    Reminder #104,

    The stability you are talking about is only for the Muslims in Ethiopia, but there is no stability for the Ethiopian Christians while their land is being sold out to foreign governments, their country is stripped of its mineral resources, such as its gold, and its Church artifacts are being put on auction every month; therefore, there will be no stability until the robbery and the looting of the Ethiopian Christians’ properties is halted.

    You wrote heedlessly: “…nothing you can do to stop the true religion of human being, Islam.” LOL!

    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 4:9-?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 5:33?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 8:12?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 9:5?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 9:29?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 8:39?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 9:123?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 47:4?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 2:119?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 8:84?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why is Quran 4:104?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why does Tabari IX.69 say: “Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us”?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why does Isaq: 489 say: “…there is no shame in killing”?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why does Tabari say:
    “‘what do you think Khattab?’ Muhammad asked. ‘I say you should hand them over to me so that I can cut off their heads. Thus Allah will know that there is no leniency in our hearts toward the unbelievers.’”?

    If Islam is the true religion of human being why was the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salem, Tanzania was bombed on August 7, 1998 where 5,000 people were injured and 224 were killed in one day?
    If Islam is a true religion of human being, why September 11, 2001?
    If Islam is the true religion of human being, why was Mansur Muhammad, a new convert to Christianity, was beheaded in 2008 as we saw in the video tape?

    Therefore, Islam is not the true religion of human beings; rather it has been the religion of the uncivilized killer terrorist Muslims for about 1,400 years and we have to fight hard to outlaw Islam, the religion of lawless Muslims.

  3. Zemberado on

    ASSTA B. GETTU-

    I come to believ that you are none Ethiopian Entity who drain your Energy and time in this forms with this purpose in mind-to devide and tear the Ethiopian Christian Muslem comunity.It won’t work so you might consider to stop thyis trick of incitment and heaterd against the people of Ethiopia.

    On the other hand even if you claim you are christan,I don’t see christ in you:does this mean any thing to you.

  4. Assta B. Gettu on

    Zemberado #107

    Shortsightedly, you wrote: “….You might consider to stop [stopping] this trick of incitement and hatred against the people of Ethiopia.”

    Am I the one who wrote Quran 4:84 that says: “….Incite the believers to fight with you”?

    Am I the one who wrote Qur’an:9:5 that says: “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war”?

    Am I the one who wrote Qur’an:9:112 that says: “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed”?

    Am I the one who wrote Ishaq:325 which says: “Muslims, fight in Allah’s Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious”?

    Am I the one who wrote Ishaq:587 that says: “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace”?

    Am I the one who wrote Ishaq:326 that says: “Prophet exhort the believers to fight. If there are twenty good fighters they will defeat two hundred for they are a senseless people. They do not fight with good intentions nor for truth”?

    Am I the one who wrote Qur’an:9:123 that says: “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you?”

    Am I the one who wrote Muslim:C9B1N31 that says: “I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all that I have brought”?

    Am I the one who wrote Qur’an:47:4 that says: “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam”?

    Am I the one who wrote Tabari VI:138 that says: “Those present at the oath of Aqabah had sworn an allegiance to Muhammad. It was a pledge of war against all men. Allah had permitted fighting”?

    Am I the one who wrote Ishaq: 578 that says: “Crushing the heads of the infidels and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy. Blood gushed from their deep wounds as the battle wore them down. We conquered bearing the Prophet’s fluttering war banner. Our cavalry was submerged in rising dust, and our spears quivered, but by us the Prophet gained victory”?

    Mr. Zemberado, the Muslims in Ethiopia are learning all the war plans in the Quran and in the Hadith to apply them whenever they see some weaknesses in the Christian country of Ethiopia. One of my Christian duties is to reveal the Ethiopian Muslim war plans in their Qurans to my Ethiopian Christians before it is too late. When five Ethiopian Muslim men beat up one Ethiopian Somali young man who was converted to Christianity, they almost killed him. This happened in Addis Ababa just recently. The beating up of a Christian man in the city of Addis Ababa tells me that the Muslims in Ethiopia are inciting their Muslim brothers and sisters to slaughter the Ethiopian Christians. This is an omen that we should not ignore, and my Ethiopian Christians must always be ready for this domestic wild animal before it devours each one of them.

    Finally, what do those words tell you: “Crushing the heads of the infidels (the Christians) and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy’’? All Muslims believe Christians and Jews, and the other infidels are their enemies, and they want to destroy them. So, we better be ready before they cut our heads and enslave our Christian daughters.

  5. Evil Hunter on

    To Assta:

    Stop reciting the holy Quran without understanding the right interpretaions of the verses and without understanding the context under which those verses are related to a given situation or situations. It takes a scholarly credential and effort to be able to interprete the holy Quran.
    The holy Quran is not something that you just interprete the way you want just like an enginnering book or a book of medicine or any other discipline may not be properly understood by a layman without the right instructors.
    Given your preconceived notion and hatred toward Islam, no rational person will even respond to your nonsense.
    I am writig this to you to urge you not to open your mouse about something you don’t know. Islam and the holy Quran are too holy to be even touched by ediot like you. I don’t know what your mission is or who sent you to this forum to create a conflict among people, but I do know one thing, as one of the comments says that there is nothing you can do to stop the religion of Islam in Ethiopia or any where else.
    You are not qualified to even be an Ethiopian, and don’t mention the name Ethiopia as there is no such degraded Ethiopian at all. You are just another evil that must be set aside and isolated from any society.

  6. Abdella and Alemu on

    To Assta:

    The majority of Oromos, and Gurages are Muslims. Afar, Ethiopian Somalis, and most of Wello, Harar, Bale, Elubabor are all Muslims. In short, at least fifty percent of Ehiopians are Muslims. Neighbouring countries, Somalia, Djibouti, Sudan and substantial part of Kenya are Muslims. Such Islamic distribution has always been the case for centuries. So, to stone-head “Assta”, what are you going to do? The answer is simple, nothing and absolutely nothing! The heat generated by your own hatred should burn you up and send you to your grave, and that would be a good news for all Ethiopians.

  7. Assta B. Gettu on

    Evil Hunter #109

    Tell me, Mr. Evil Hunter, before you are hunted and destroyed, what kind of interpretation does Quran 9:5 that says: “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war” need?

    Tell me what kind of interpretation does Quran 4:90 that says: “If they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them” require?

    Tell me what kind of interpretation does Sahih Muslim, Vol. I, Page 590 that says: “The messenger of Allah used to have sexual intercourse with me during my menstrual period, while a piece of garment is between us” demand?

    Tell me what kind of interpretation does Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume1, Book 6, Number 296 that says: “The prophet used to recite the Quran with his head in my lap while I used to be in my periods (having menses)” entail? Muslims were told never to touch a woman at all before their prayers. Tell me why the Prophet is putting his head in the lap of a menstruating woman, and that woman was his child-wife, Aisha? If your Quran is, as you said, “too holy,” why is Muhammad touching a woman in her period while he was reciting the Quran? His action suggests that Quran is not too holly but too dirty, too filthy to be touched by the holy hands of the Ethiopian Christians, and for that matter by the hands of all the other Christians.

    If your Quran were too holy, it would not have commanded the Muslims to fight not one man but all men in the whole world:

    Tabari VI:138 “Those present at the oath of Aqabah had sworn an allegiance to Muhammad. It was a pledge of war against all men. Allah had permitted fighting.” A holy book was supposed to be a book that tells its followers to be a peace loving people; instead, the holy Quran incites Muslims all over the world to slaughter the Christians. Have you read the report by Reader #89 that in Lower Juba province of Somalia Christians were publicly executed because they were found holding their Bibles? Do we need any interpretation for the carnage that happened in Kampala, Uganda by the holy Quran followers?

    Your Quran is not a holy book: it is a book from Satan; for example, read the following statements:

    (Tabari VI:107) “Satan Cast a False Quran Revelation on the Messenger of Allah’s Tongue.” And it’s the same reason Surah 22:52: “Every Messenger or prophet before you recited the message Satan cast into his recitation.” Muhammad’s assertion that all the prophets before him got their prophecy from Satan is totally false: all the true prophets before Muhammad prophesied what the Holy Spirit had told them to tell His people. The True and Holly Bible says: “Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Hoy Spirit.” (2nd Peter 1:20-21)

    In fact, if your Quran were a holy book, Salman Rushdie wouldn’t have written that famous novel, The Satanic Verses in 1988, and, as always, all Muslims, followers of theses Satanic Verses, screamed “Allah Akbar!” And one of the Muslim leaders, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Supreme Leader of Iran, ordered all Muslims to hunt that great author and kill him by issuing fatwa. Rushdie wrote the Satanic Verses based on the true accounts of Muslim historians al-Waqidi and al-Tabari.

    Great authors, women, Christians, Jews, and all the other infidels have no freedom in the Muslim-Arab world, and that is why most Arab Muslims are in the rudimentary stages. Whenever a rational person tries to reason with them about their dark past and their present distorted history, they resort to violence to defend their Satanic Verses: they go and destroy human lives, burn Churches, demolish historical buildings, and bomb cities, villages, hijack airplanes, and burn themselves to inter paradise.

    The false paradise their false prophet promised them looks like this:

    Qur’an 55:62 “And beside this, there are two other Gardens, rich green in color from plentiful watering. In them will be two springs, gushing forth, and fruits. And beautiful companions, virgins cloistered in pavilions, undefiled by men and jinn, reclining on green cushions and rich mattresses. Which of the favors of you Lord will you both deny?”

    To inter this tantalizing paradise, the Muslims, deceived by their false prophet, will continue to maim, to behead, to burn, and to slaughter the infidels without any mercy.

    The Ethiopian Muslims have not yet completely contaminated with these Satanic Verses, and most of them don’t know what the Quran says because the Shiite Muslim’s Quran says something and the Sunni Muslim’s Quran says another thing. And the confusion becomes clearer when one compares the Quran with the Hadith; for example, the Quran does not have The Five Pillars of Islam: if not, why do the Muslims use them?

    Any way, my dear Muslims in Ethiopia, don’t be mislead by the Quran; in fact, the Quran is not for you: it is for the Arabs; read Surahs 14:4; 42:7; 43:3 & 46:12. I entreat you to desecrate Quran and to read the Holy Bible, the true book written by the holy men, inspired by the Holy Spirit.

    Mr. Evil Hunter #109, the demon that hunted your prophet Muhammad and found him relaxing and having sex with a dead woman brought with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they went in and lived there and the final condition of that man (Muhammad) was worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked Muslim generation that does not believe in Jesus Christ (Matthew 12:45).

    My advice to you, Mr. Evil Hunter, read the Quran that does not need any interpretation; then read the Holy Bible that says: “It is not good to have zeal without knowledge, nor to be hasty and miss the way.” (Proverbs 19:2)

  8. Assta B. Gettu on

    Abdella and Alemu #110,

    I’m not denying that my Christian country is surrounded by millions of Muslims who disbelieve in Jesus Christ, the true Son of the Almighty God, the Father, and before these Muslim Gog Magogs devour my Ethiopian Christians, the Ethiopian Christian kingdom must do something to stop the spread of Islam in Ethiopia, and the best effective method to completely eradicate Islam from the Christian land of Ethiopia is to use either the Egyptian or the Chinese method of controlling the birth rate of Muslims in Ethiopia. I really hate Islam: I sincerely prefer Hinduism or Buddhism to this deviltry Islam.

    Observer, #111,

    What does “Go back to your Weyane masters who hired you to do what you are doing here, and tell them that attempts to mobilize Ethiopian Muslims against opposition websites, in this case Ethiopian Review, have failed” mean? The Editor of Ethiopian Review is Elias Kifle, and to say the Ethiopian Review has failed means that Elias Kifle has failed in what he is doing.

    First, try to understand the difference between singular noun and a plural verb to have and the position of a comma.

    You wrote: “…in this case Ethiopian Review, have failed.” It should be written: …in this case, the Ethiopian Review has, not have, failed.

    The rest of the cursing words you have used suggest you are one of those blackguarded Ethiopian Muslims. Why don’t try to defend your false prophet and your Satanic Quran instead of cursing and insulting me for telling you the deception and the immorality of your fake prophet Muhammad? I don’t care if you go hell with the rest of your backward Ethiopian Muslims, but I do care about my Ethiopian Christians, and I don’t want to see you and your Saudi agents spreading the fake religion, Islam, in my Christian country, Ethiopia. Get out of my country and go to your desert land, Mecca, where you came from.

  9. M. DD on

    Assta B. Gettu:
    105

    Since you indicated that you left the country many years ago (Haile Sellasie’s time), you have no moral ground to talk about Ethiopia or Ethiopian Muslims. How is it that an old man like you fail to realize that extremism is bound to fail and moderation is way to go? Even my fifteen year old sister knows that diversity is a reality in every aspect of life including religion. You are so blinded and isolated that you will never gather any support from any Christians what so ever. You probably reside somewhere in US or another Western country, and most likely you are a drug user. I say this because no rational or sane Ethiopian writes such inflammatory statements using such extremely ugly expressions. You mentioned that you met and admired Haile Sellasie, and yet you failed to appreciate the King’s official policy on religion, which recites “Hager Yegara New Haimanot Yegel new”. I am only twenty and know this policy from history. An old man is generally respected in our culture, but if there is any old man to be disrespected, it is you. You are an enemy not only for Muslim Ethiopians, but also you a disgrace to Christian Ethiopins as well. Whereever you may be, we certainly don’t need you back in Ethiopia.

  10. ex muslim man on

    The peacock story.

    Arab Racism
    According to the literal Arabic translation of Sura 3:106, 107, on Judgment Day, only people with white faces will be saved. People with black faces will be damned.

    A Carnal Heaven
    The Quran promises a heaven full of wine and free sex (Suras 2:25; 4:57; 11:23; 47:15).

    If drunkenness and gross immorality is sinful on earth, how is it right in Paradise?

    The Quran’s picture of paradise is exactly what a seventh-century pagan Arab would have thought wonderful.
    ).

    Astral Religions
    In Arabia, the sun god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars such as Alfred Guilluame, the moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah! (Islam, p. 7).

    The name Allah was used as the personal name of the moon god, in addition to other titles that could be given to him.

    Allah, the moon god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called “the daughters of Allah.” These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.

    The daughters of Allah, along with Allah and the sun goddess were viewed as “high” gods. That is, they were viewed as being at the top of the pantheon of Arabian deities.

    “Along with Allah, however, they worshipped a host of lesser gods and “daughters of Al-lah” (Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, I:61)”.

    The Crescent Moon Symbol
    The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon.

    Archaeologists have dug up numerous statues and hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon god. In the same fashion as the sun is pictured above the Egyptian deity.

    While the moon was generally worshiped as a female deity in the Ancient Near East, the Arabs viewed it as a male deity.

    The Gods of the Quraysh
    The Quraysh tribe into which Muhammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah’s three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah.

    The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, played a significant role in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah.

    The literal Arabic name of Muhammad’s father was Abd-Allah. His uncle’s name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad’s pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god.

    Praying Toward Mecca
    An Allah idol was set up at the Kebah along with all the other idols. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed.

    It only made sense to them to face in the direction of their god and then pray. Since the idol of their moon god, Allah, was at Mecca, they prayed toward Mecca.

    The worship of the moon god extended far beyond the Allah-worship in Arabia. The entire fertile crescent was involved in the worship of the moon.

    This, in part, explains the early success of Islam among Arab groups that traditionally had worshiped the moon god.

    The use of the crescent moon as the symbol for Islam which is placed on the flags of Islamic nations and on the top of mosques and minarets is a throwback to the days when Allah was worshiped as the moon god in Mecca.

    While this may come as a surprise to many Christians who have wrongly assumed that Allah was simply another name for the God of the Bible, educated
    sources the moon of the cult.
    Therefore all black people will go to hell.Do not west your time.

  11. Terefe on

    When a democraticaly elected leader takes over in Ethiopia very soon, we will hand over you and your masters, (Weyane leaders) to Muslim courts.

  12. Arami on

    Assta:

    No christian is willing to listen to you. It is You vs. Muslims leading me to question your sanity

  13. Assta B. Gettu on

    M. DD #115,

    Any comment from a dotty person like you does not make any sense and since it has missed the main issues – Islam, Muhammad, Quran, and Hadith – no one bothers to read it; therefore, your comment goes to the trash can.

    Old or young, witless or intelligent, I will never stop exposing your immoral false prophet Muhammad and your satanic cult, Islam until you publicly denounce the Satanic Verses of your Quran. You have been deceiving the whole world using your false prophet Muhammad as if he were a prophet from God. I know the Saudi kingdom is paying you a lot of money to spread Islam in my Christian country, Ethiopia. Your deceptions have come to an end; pack up your belongings and leave my country before force is applied.

    It is the young Muslims like you who are easily influenced by the Saudis,’ the Egyptians,’ and the Sudanese’ oblivious Imams poisoning my Christian country, running door to door to convert the young Ethiopian Christians to Islam, the religion of demons. You might have been born from one of the 7th or 10th wives of your Muslim father, and you may have over 100 Muslim brothers and sisters from different Fatimas, and this is one of the big problems my Ethiopian Christians are facing. We do not have enough space to accommodate all these illegitimate Muslim puppies; therefore, we must find an effective solution to reduce the birthrate of the 40 million Muslims in Ethiopia; otherwise we will be swallowed up by the anti-Christ Muslims, Muslims who do not believe that Christ is the Son of God.

    Mr. M. DD #115, if I were you, I would immediately renounce the Islamist Jihadists’ faith, Islam, and accept Christianity, the religion of the most civilized nation, a religion found by Jesus Christ, the prince of peace. Islam was fabricated by Muhammad, the prince of conflict, war, greed, immorality, and deception.

    I wish your comment were about Islam, Muhammad, the Quran and the Hadith so that I could have written you extensively, but your bootless comment is about my age and your age; age has nothing to do with intelligence: your prophet Muhammad was 53 years old when he raped a-9-year-old child, Aisha. I advise you never to follow his evil footsteps or his bad examples. Follow the examples of good Ethiopian Christians; I don’t think you can find any good person among the Muslims who worship the moon-god, allah.

  14. Assta B. Gettu on

    Terefe #117,

    You wrote erratically: “When a democraticaly [democratically] elected leader takes over in Ethiopia very soon, we will hand over you [hand you over] and your masters, (Weyane leaders) to Muslim courts.” (Comma after master is not needed.)

    I wish the Woyanne government would be soon over, but how do you know it would be over soon and a Muslim government will be established with its Sharia law, and all Ethiopian Christians will be punished by this inhumane court? That is why I am tirelessly warning the Ethiopian Christians to kill Islam and its Sharia law before it becomes the law of the land. One of the hidden agenda of the Ethiopian Muslims is not only to build a Mosque in the Holy city of Axum Zion but to establish the Sharia law like in Somalia and in some parts of the Arab-Muslim world.

    Before you hand us over to the Muslim court in Ethiopia and before you try to build a Mosque for your moon-god, allah, in the holy city of Axum Zion, you will be exterminated from the Christian land of Ethiopia, and mostly the citizens of Addis Ababa will have a peace of mind when your disturbing and noisy calling for your moon-god – allah Akbar on a loudspeaker in the early morning hour is completely prohibited by the eternal Christian court.

    You have been calling for your moon-god since 610 AD, and it has never responded to you, and the only response you get from Satan that has personated your moon-god, allah, is to bomb a city or a village and to slaughter innocent Christians, and you have been respecting Satan’s words by any means. Our Christian Gospel preachers have tried to tell you to stop worshipping an idol that does not listen or speak a single Arabic or Amharic or English word. Your moon-god, allah, is nothing else but it is like the old day’s Baal that Elijah the prophet taunted against and insisted the Baal worshippers to shout lauder and call their Baal if he could listen to them, and they shouted, like the Ethiopian Muslim Bilal or Azan shouts, standing inside the minaret: “‘O Baal, answer us!’ they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered, and they danced around the altar they had mad….They shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. There was no answer, but Elijah mocked them by saying: ‘Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.’ Finally, after Elijah proved to the Israelites that his God is the true God, not Baal, he summoned the 850 prophets of Baal, brought them down to the Kishon Valley, and slaughtered them all (1st Kings 18:16-40)!

    I am sure there are more than 850 Imams, prophets of the moon-god, allah, in Ethiopia, and these Imams are paid by the Saudi kingdom to strengthen Islam in Ethiopia and to weaken Christianity; therefore, we may not kill all the 40 million Ethiopian Muslims who worship the moon-god, allah, but we are capable of seizing the more than 850 Imams in Ethiopia, taking them down to the Abay River, and slaughtering them all for misleading the 40 million Ethiopian Muslims. That is what we shall do first when a democratically elected Christian person takes over the power from the Woyanne government. We must cleanse Ethiopia from the infectious disease – Islam – and make the country smooth for the new Christian leader.

  15. Assta B. Gettu on

    Arami #118,

    You wrote dubiously: “No Christian is willing to listen to you.” You should have said: “No Muslims are willing to listen to you,” instead of the Christians. I know my Ethiopian Christians are listening to me, but they don’t want to express themselves because they are surrounded by 40 million Muslims, ready to terrorize and kill any person who speaks against the moon-god, allah, and against any person who try to desecrate the dirty Quran. But the word of God says: “He who has ears, let him hear.” (Matthew 11:15) My Christian responsibility is to pass the word of the Almighty God to those who can hear and follow the teaching of Jesus Christ who said to his people: “”I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6)

    You see, Muhammad is not the way to heaven but Jesus is; according to Muhammad, every person who rejected Islam (scam) will go to hell, and here is what the Quran says:
    Qur’an 18:103 “Say: ‘Shall we inform you of who will be the greatest losers? …Those who reject my Revelations… Hell is their reward, because they rejected Islam, and took My proofs, verses, and lessons, and those of My Messengers by way of jest in mockery.'” Over two billion Christians reject Islam as an evil religion, and all these children of God will go to hell according to the teaching of Muhammad, the messenger of the devil.

    Muhammad also taught his followers a false story as Tabari tells us this way:

    Tabari I:321 “When Eve became heavy with her first pregnancy, Satan came to her before she gave birth and said, ‘Eve, what is that in your womb.’ She said, ‘I do not know.’ He asked, ‘Where will it come out from – your nose, your eye, or your ear.’ She replied, ‘I do not know.’ He said, ‘Don’t you think, if it comes out healthy, you should obey me in whatever I command you?’ When she said, ‘Yes.’ he said: ‘Name him Abd al-Harith Iblis – Slave to the cursed.’ She agreed.”

    As a Christian, it is my responsibility to tell my Ethiopian Christians to identify the false story from the true one, and if I don’t do that, the good Lord will hold me responsible for the death of that wicked Muslim or Christian who refused to listen to me:

    “If I announce that some wicked people are sure to die and you fail to tell them to change their ways, then they will die in their sins, and I will hold you responsible for their deaths.” (Ezekiel 33:8)

    Anyone who believes in Jesus Christ and do what the Lord tells him to do is not a wicked person but a saved person; therefore, all Christians who believe in Jesus Christ who died for them are children of God; and if they accept his sufferings, they will share his glory in heaven as St. Paul tells us:

    “And since we are his children, we are his heirs. In fact, together with Christ we are heirs of God’s glory. But if we are to share his glory, we must also share his suffering.” (Romans 8:17)

    I hope all Muslims and Christians will listen to the word of Jesus Christ, our personal savior, and reject Muhammad, the false prophet, and desecrate Quran that authorizes the destructions of all Christians, Jews, and the rest of the infidels.

  16. Assta B. Gettu on

    My dear ex muslim man #116,

    Thank you for your great contribution on the origin of the moon-god, allah, and it is my hope the Muslims in Ethiopia will read your contribution and come to their senses, reject Islam and join Christianity.

    I will ask you one question if you can answer me only if you want to: According to Quran 4:90, have you been harassed by some Muslim extremists because of the change you have made? If yes, how serious was the harassment against you and your family?

    May God bless you and your family and protect you from the evil ones!

  17. No one comes forward to support your hateful preaching even on this forum. This lack of support itself should be clear enough to you that you are indeed extremist and wicked person. You are denying the reality and attempting the impossible. I agree with comment 115, “M. DD” that you have not even achieved basic level of maturity when you advocate exteremism over moderation. In fact, it is not worth it to read or respond to your ridiculous comments. You should be ashamed of yourself when you insult millions of people and their faith. Whether you like it or not Muslims are an integral part of Ethiopia, and an attack on Ethipian Muslims is just like an attack on all Ethiopia. Any attempt to exclude Muslims from Ethiopian society will not only fail, but also will result in severe consequences.

  18. Muslim Ethiopia on

    You keep mentioning the country Saudi Arabia, which has nothing to do with Ethiopian Muslims except having the same religion. Ethiopian Muslims are quite capable of defending themselves and they don’t need any support from here or there when it comes to their faith. We Ethiopian Muslims know exactly what to do with evils like you. We punished individuals like you in the past, and your fate will be similar to those individuals if you ever come to Ethiopia and try to utter your nonsense.

  19. Bekele on

    Assta:

    This Assta man is just ridiculous trying to create religous conflict for no reason at all.
    Why don’t you go some where in Middle East and say what you say here? They will cook your rotten ass and throw you in a dumpster.

  20. Evil Hunter on

    Assta:

    Tracking you, hunting you, and bringing you to justice should be the focus now.

  21. Assta B. Gettu on

    KC#123,

    Once again, I will repeat the main issues for our discussions: Muhammad is a false prophet; Islam is a fake religion; Quran and Hadith are not revealed to Muhammad by the Holy Spirit. So, you have nothing to defend those fundamental issues. Your worthless comment mentions none of the main issues. The readers want to hear something from you in defending your defenseless religion, prophet, and your fake books.

    Every Christian knows when Muslims fail to defend their empty faith, they resort to violence, and it is only through violence the Muslim world functions. One of the key words all Muslims use is SUBMIT, or you will be destroyed. In fact, we Christians who reject Muhammad’s message are confined to Hell: “Those who reject, disbelieve, and deny our signs, proofs, verses, and lessons will be companions of Hell-Fire.” (Quran 5:10)

    We Christians all over the world are condemned to go to Hell according to Muhammad’s Allah, and here is what Muhammad says: “Those who reject [Islamic] Faith, Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to any path except the way to Hell, to dwell therein forever. And this to Allah is easy.” (Quran 4:168)

    My dear Christians, don’t worry because Muhammad’s god is not the real God of the Christians; his god is the moon-good, allah that does not hear, does not talk, does not answer prayers, and does not have any power to heal, to kill, to punish, to forgive, and to get angry. If you want to know the origin of this moon-god, allah, read ex muslim man #116. However, instead of the moon-god, allah, doing the punishing job, his followers, the Muslims, do the beheading, the amputating, the burning, the bombing, and the killing of any Christian who disparages their dirty religion. In other words, even we try to be their friends, they will never accept us as their true friends unless we accept Islam (scam). Quran 60:4 clearly states this way: “We reject you. Hostility and hate have come between us forever, unless you believe in Allah only.”

    Once again, Muhammad, the false prophet, strongly advises his followers to hate us and to kill us declaring jihad against us because we have refused to submit to Islam and to Muhammad:

    “Believers, take not my enemies and yours as allies, offering them love, even though they have rejected the truth that has come to you, and have driven out the Prophet and you because you believe in Allah! If you have come out to struggle [fight jihad] in My Cause, and to seek My Pleasure, (take them not as friends), holding secret converse of love with them: for I am aware of all you conceal. And any of you that does this has strayed from the Straight Path. If they were to get the better of you, they would be your foes, and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you with evil (designs).” (Quran 60:1)

    Indeed, Quran 5:51 says it beautifully and precisely when it declares: “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.” My question to the most powerful Christian world is why do we have to open our colleges and our universities to the children of those who hate us, who kill us, who burn our Churches, abuse our girls, and who never want to be our friends? Let this question remains in the hearts of all the Christians, and one day, the Christians whose friends are being slaughtered by these Muslim terrorists will wake up and say “enough is enough!”

    We Christians always pray for the safety and salvation of our friends and our enemies, but this is not the case in the Muslim world as you read for yourselves the following verse:

    “It is not fitting for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray for the forgiveness for disbelievers, even though they be close relatives, after it is clear to them that they are the inmates of the Flaming Hell Fire.” (Quran 9:113) As the Muslims’ Quran demonstrates hatred toward all the Christians and the Jews, there is no way we can live with them peacefully; there is no way we can allow their children in all our schools, and there is no way we can share our modern technology with them. Let them perish with their nescient Hanifs (religious leaders) in their Jahiliyyah (period of ignorance)

    Do we need more evidence that the Muslims do not like us, do not want us to associate with us, and do not see us as human beings like themselves? Here are some statements, perhaps, revealed to Muhammad, the false prophet, and you must read them carefully and don’t be angry as they always are because their Quran is not revealed by the Holy Spirit to Muhammad, but it was revealed to him by the bad spirit of the devil, and that is why the Muslims always get angry and violent as the devil has always been violent and destructive:

    “Believers! Take not into your intimacy those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, and Christians). They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin. Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths. What their hearts conceal is far worse. When they are alone, they bite off the very tips of their fingers at you in their rage. Say unto them: ‘Perish in your rage.'” (Quran 3:118)

    Some of the Ethiopian Muslim commentators on this and on the other web sites always say to me when they are miserably failed to defend their faiths: “Perish in your rage, and a person like you should not deserve to live in this world and we will hunt you down and kill you.” As far as I have exposed their Satanic Verses to the Christian world and told them to believe in Jesus Christ, and they have refused, then I have done my duty.

    Muslims are born in curse, grow up in curse, and die in curse like their prophet Muhammad: Muhammad died cursing the Christians, the Jews, and the other infidels while in his death bed. Here is what he said when he was dying:

    “When Allah’s Apostle became seriously sick, he started covering his face with a woolen sheet. When he felt short of breath, he removed it, and said, ‘That is so! Allah’s curse be on Jews and Christians.'” (Bukhari: v5B559N727)

    We Christians must always live being cursed, being terrorized, and being slaughtered by our internal ruthless enemies – the Muslims who believe in terrorizing and in killing us as their Quran directs them to commit violence:

    “I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.” (Quran 8:12)

    The Muslims hate us because we believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God as the Gospel of John says: “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18) Again John further testify that Jesus is indeed the Son of God: “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. “Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. (John 5:24-25)

    However, the Muslims deny that Jesus is the Son of God: “Verily they are disbelievers and infidels who say, ‘The Messiah, son of Mary, is God.'” (Quran 5:17)
    Also, we Christians believe that Jesus Christ was crucified and died on the cross, and all the four Gospels have recorded Jesus’ crucifixion and his death accurately, but all Muslims believe that the person who was crucified on the cross was another person, not Jesus Christ, and the Jews did not killed Jesus:

    “‘We [Jews] killed the Messiah, Jesus,’ but they killed him not, nor crucified him. It appeared so to them (as the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man and they killed that man). Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself. Those who differ with this version are full of doubts. They have no knowledge and follow nothing but conjecture. For surely they killed him not.” (Quran 5:75)

    Mr. KC#123, I hope you understand our differences, and as far as there are these fundamental differences between us the Christians, the true believers in Jesus Christ, the true Son of God, and you, Muslim, the true worshipers of idols – the moon-god, allah, there always be hostilities between you, the killers, and us, the peace makers.

    I warn you, leave Ethiopia and go to the place where you come from; you know you came to Ethiopia as a Muslim refugee from Mecca, and to Mecca you go.

  22. Assta B. Gettu on

    Muslim Ethiopia #124

    You don’t have the same religion with the Arabs; you begged the Arabs to accept you; you are in fact, as black men and women, the most rejected and disgraced persons in the entire Arab world. This is what the Arab book you worship says about you:

    “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he is a black African slave whose head looks like a raisin.'” (Bukhari: V9B89N256) If you think you have a face that looks like the ugly face of the Arabs, why don’t you leave Ethiopia? Ethiopia is for Ethiopian black Christians, not for you whose masters are the bastard Arabs who say about you:

    “It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.” (Ishaq: 450)

    In the Arab world, you are men of no roots and no recorded history but you want to make history by simply living, eating, weaving, and producing multiple of children in this Christian country of Ethiopia: you have lived in Ethiopia for about 1,000 years, and you have contributed nothing to Ethiopia, and you have no heritage in Ethiopia. I sincerely advise you that Islam is not the religion of the black people, so accept Christianity and live the lives of the Ethiopian Christians.

    If you think Muhammad, the false prophet, likes you because you are Muslims, here is what your Prophet Muhammad says about you:

    “The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him…. If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'” (Bukhari:V4B52N137)

    As a weak and diffident person, threat, violence, and deceptions have been your weapons and the weapons of your milk soppy Muslims; go and worship your Arab masters in Saudi Arabia or Turkey! We have no place in Ethiopia for Arab worshippers like you and your likes.

  23. Assta B. Gettu on

    Dear Bekele #125,

    One of these days, I may go to Saudi Arabia and ask them for a permission to visit Ato Girma Woldegiorgis, President of the Christian Ethiopia, and as soon as I am allowed to visit him, I will start reading the Holy Bible for him. If the nurse prevented me from reading the Bible, I will threat her that I would never send the Oromos delicious vegetables and fruits to her country. I am sure they will respect their patient and let me continue reading the Holy Bible to the President before he dies.

  24. Assta B. Gettu on

    Evil Hunter#126,

    Counseling you, persuading you, inspiring you, and finally baptizing you will be the urgent calling I shall have!

  25. Reader on

    We true lovers of our dear country, and Christians who new the true nature of Islam are behind Assta B. Gettu!
    Don’t try to intimidate him after you saw the video clip, reading what happened on the news (killing innocent Christians…), reading the satanic verses of Quran…We don’t like this cult!!!!! We will fight it by any means. We will exposing it like dear Assta B. Gettu, even by quoting your own evil satanic versus, etc…
    #123 what is the meaning of evil more than murdering innocent people, raping the 9 year old girl, sleeping with dead …? evil of islam We rebuke you in the “NAME OF JESUS CHRIST” GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!! LET YOUR EVIL WORK BE BURN, AND DESTROY!! I PRAY THAT THE INNOCENT PEOPLE MIGHT BE SET FREE…
    Dear Assta, I copied all what you wrote, and I will try to pass it to others as much as I can in order to inform and warn! God be with you.

  26. Assta B. Gettu on

    My dear Reader #131,

    I know with all my heart that there are many, many, dedicated Ethiopian Christians like you who are ready to defend Christianity in Ethiopia, and for that matter in the whole world.

    It is the fault of our leaders that Islam, with its sharia law, is spreading so rapidly all over the world, and especially in our Christian country, Ethiopia. The Ethiopian Muslims are going to put our Christian country into a greater risk; you have seen them how shamelessly they attacked me and threatened me on this web site for exposing their false prophet and their secret satanic verses to the whole world. They don’t talk much about those verses I quoted from their Quran and the Hadith openly when they converse with some of the Christians. To deceive us they tell us they accept Jesus Christ as a good person who is next to Muhammad in rank, and some Christians who have not read the entire Quran get easily convinced and think there is no difference between Islam and Christianity, and they become Muslims. And of course, they get money when they change their faith from Christianity to Islam. They can also tell them they can have two, there, or four wives, and if they can bomb a Christian house or a Christian Church, they can be a leader of their Muslim Community, and if they die while they are fighting the infidels, they can go straight to paradise and rape those virgin girls in the Muhammad’s false paradise. And once a person has accepted Islam, he is in jail for the rest of his life because if he wants to get out, they will threaten him or kill him.

    All Muslims have a hidden agenda, and their agenda is to proselyte the whole world to an Islamic faith and to convert all the Churches and the Synagogues to Mosques. The Ethiopian Muslims know this hidden agenda very well, and the Saudi Wohabes are working tirelessly in Ethiopia, encouraging the Ethiopian Muslims to have more children and helping them financially. The more children an Ethiopian Muslim woman gets, the more money she collects from the Saudi agents. However, if an Ethiopian woman gets five children, only two or three of them may survive, the other will die because of poverty, but if an Ethiopian Muslim woman gets ten children, they all survive and grow up because of the help they get from the Saudi government.

    How can we frustrate the Ethiopian Muslims from expanding their false religion throughout Ethiopia?

    1. Prohibit the Saudi Whabes or Imams from entering Ethiopia.
    2. Formulate a new law that allows a Muslim woman to have one child only but a Christian woman to have five children.
    3. Stop licensing Muslims to build any Mosque anywhere in Ethiopia. Let them worship their moon-god, allah, inside their houses.
    4. Designate any Islamic holy places such as Harar and other places in Ethiopia as common places, not holy ones.
    5. Declare all Muslim holidays in Ethiopia illegal in a Christian country.
    6. Announce adhan (calling Muslims for prayer in the early morning hour or in the afternoon) is unacceptable.
    7. Discourage Ethiopian Muslim women from wearing hijab in any place in Ethiopia.
    8. Codify a new law that prohibits any Ethiopian Muslim from becoming the president, the prime minister, or the king of Christian Ethiopia.
    9. Recruit more Christian soldiers into the army
    10. Forbid the training of an Ethiopian Muslim to become an airplane Pilate.
    11. Allow only five seats for Ethiopian Muslims in the Ethiopian Christian parliament.
    12. Encourage all Ethiopian Christians to persuade the Ethiopian Muslims to become Christians.

    I can vividly see what democracy is going to bring to this Christian country of ours if the Ethiopian Muslim population continues to grow rapidly.

    We need a good Christian leader who can apply those 12 rules effectively as soon as possible before the Ethiopian Muslims compel us to submit ourselves to their moon-god, allah, and force us to read their satanic verses instead of our Holy Bible.

    Mr. Reader #131, thank you for your support and especially for your willingness to pass my writings you kindly copied down to the other Ethiopian Christians. This is one of the ways we can defend our Christianity that our Christian ancestors shed their precious blood for, and this is the best way that we can preach the Gospel. All of us Christians have the responsibility to spread the Good News to our Ethiopian Muslim brothers and sisters. It was St. Paul who said: “Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel! (1st Corinthians 9:16)

    May the Almighty God ever bless you, defend you, and support you in your good work you have been doing!

  27. Gragn Ahmed on

    Assta,
    A. “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he is a black African slave whose head looks like a raisin.'” (Bukhari: V9B89N256)
    That is what the hadith says. I agree with this hadith because it treats even the black man of that period with same distinction as Arabs. A case in point,bilal ibn Rabah, the slave Ethiopian was appointed one of the highest position in Islam,Muezzin. in Islam it not skin color but your talent that is important in the eyes of Allah. Not your Bible who people used it to justify slavery and colonization.
    B. Compare the following two hadiths:
    You wrote:
    “The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him…. If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'” (Bukhari:V4B52N137)
    Compare the above hadith with the one below taken from a reliable source:
    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/052.sbt.html
    I politely ask the readers of this website to check the above link to find the unmodified hadith. Here is the hadith as originally reported:
    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 137:
    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    The Prophet said, “Let the slave of Dinar and Dirham of Quantify and Khamisa (i.e. money and luxurious clothes) perish for he is pleased if these things are given to him, and if not, he is displeased!”
    Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, ” Let the slave of Dinar and Dirham, of Quantify and Khamisa perish as he is pleased if these things are given to him, and if not, he is displeased. Let such a person perish and relapse, and if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him. Paradise is for him who holds the reins of his horse to strive in Allah’s Cause, with his hair unkempt and feet covered with dust: if he is appointed in the vanguard, he is perfectly satisfied with his post of guarding, and if he is appointed in the rearward, he accepts his post with satisfaction; (he is so simple and unambiguous that) if he asks for permission he is not permitted, and if he intercedes, his intercession is not accepted.”
    Assta, you never give us any reliable source where we can check the reliability of your hadith or history. Please do give us your source next time. Otherwise you will lose the cinfidence of others.
    Moreover, I find your knowledge of hadith very shaky. You fail to write the full information and you also erroneously added words to deliberately change the intended meaning of the hadith.
    Let me explain a little bit more. If you look at the Hadith above that I quoted the word negro is not found. But if you read your hadith you wrote above you inserted the word “negro” in the sentence. Where did you get this word from? Even if you we add “ negro”, the sentence becomes even more confusing.
    Read this phrase: “negro slave of Dirham…” taken from the above hadith you wrote. It makes no sense. Dirham is not a name of a person. It is a form of money. So, if you read it again it does not have any sense. It is not saying “negro slave of Ahmed or Abbas”. According to your own hadith, the phrase will mean” negro slave of 10 Birr or money”. Can you still make sense? NO. So the correct phrase is “a slave of money or Dirham” and this an Arabic idiom and it means money lover or greedy people.
    So, whoever made the changes to the original hadith is a negro slave of Satan himself. It could be you Assta and your fellow christian fanatics who did such satanic work.
    I have never seen a person like you Assta who thinks he knows everything. I urge you to stop quoting a misguided and fabricated hadith.
    I started to laugh when I read the following hadith:
    “When Allah’s Apostle became seriously sick, he started covering his face with a woolen sheet. When he felt short of breath, he removed it, and said, ‘That is so! Allah’s curse be on Jews and Christians.’ (Bukhari: v5B559N727)
    My question is where did you get this hadith? Volume 5, Book 559, Number 727? Please respect your fanatic followers so they trust you.
    Finally, you repeatedly write about your hate for Muslims and Islam. Only Satanic spirit guides people like you Assta who carelessly write and spread hate among people. Christians lived for thousands of years with Muslims by paying taxes who are you to say now this is impossible? You have a paranoid and actually I have diagnosed your sickness and I will soon write about it. InshAllah. You hate muslims because your Bible asks you to do so. Read the following excerpt you wrote on this web site:
    “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18) Again John further testify that Jesus is indeed the Son of God: “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. “Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. (John 5:24-25)
    I am sure there are more than 850 Imams, prophets of the moon-god, allah, in Ethiopia, and these Imams are paid by the Saudi kingdom to strengthen Islam in Ethiopia and to weaken Christianity; therefore, we may not kill all the 40 million Ethiopian Muslims who worship the moon-god, allah, but we are capable of seizing the more than 850 Imams in Ethiopia, taking them down to the Abay River, and slaughtering them all for misleading the 40 million Ethiopian Muslims. That is what we shall do first when a democratically elected Christian person takes over the power from the Woyanne government. We must cleanse Ethiopia from the infectious disease – Islam – and make the country smooth for the new Christian leader.
    Do you think the sons and daughters of Islam will sit idly to see our Imam get killed by the murderer atse Libne Degnels? Clearly Allah will be with us to wipe out all the devil priests from East to West and from North to South. Every church will be burnt along with every priest of every single Church. Close to 10,000 priests live now in Ethiopia paid by Western missionaries. We will cut off their hands soon.
    #113 visitor
    You are one of those fanatic christians who openly showed support, unlike the rest of the visitors of this web site who are silent, to Assta Getu’s unbound and irresponsible comments. I have been saying but with vain to my fellowmuslims that Christian Ethiopians are hiding their true feeling all the time against Muslims of Ethiopia. Silence means acceptance. Of the two hundred visitors of this website who posted comments, only a few denounced Assta Getu. Now you tell me that all Muslims kill Christians. A little bit of history on crimes of Christian Ethiopia will settle my point.
    1. Who killed 20,000 Muslims of Wollo in a single day who refused to convert to christianity and who protested their eviction from their own “keye”? Yohannes or Ahmed Al Ghazali? These civilians were not soldiers whereas Imam Ahmed (a.k.a. Gragn) never forced a single Christian to convert.
    Imam Ahmed was a true hero. He was confident and superior over his enemies. He did not have to evict his own people out like the coward Yohannes did. Ethiopian Muslim history must be rewritten. The story of Muslim Heritages of Wollo, Shimbera Kore, Tana, Denbia, Jimma, and Aba Jiffar will show the glory of our Muslim Ethiopia. Our Muslim Heritage is quite long to list: Yifat dynasty, the Hadiya, Welasma (King Sebredin for example), and more. We need to errect statues and historic Museums in these areas.
    Moreover, no known Ethiopian leader has a pure christian blood. Haile Selassie, Beyene Petros, Birhanu Nega or Meles have all Muslim blood. All Ethiopians ARE INFACT ARABS ALTHOUGH CHRISTIANS DENY IT.
    2. Who Killed the Muslims of Harar during the invasion of Menelik II? A muslim empire or a christian empire.? Remember Chelenko?
    3. Who kills Oromo and Somali muslims in the name of terror? Pregnant women getting bombed everyday by the christian Army.
    4. You say Meles is supported by Muslims. On the other hand you support the West which gives 1 billion dollar every year to the Meles regime who kills Somalis everyday. I know you change sides whenever it feels convenient. I urge every black African to embrace the true religion of God, the eternal Allah, who has no son. Islam has emancipated the slaves of Apartheid of South Africa and is free from the crimes purported by Christian colonialists. Christianity is a religion of colonization and neocolonization. Africa especially Ethiopia will not grow when power is still in the hands of Orthodox fanatics- the followers of the most backward religion. They are worshipers of a tabot, a piece of wood plated with Gold. The funny thing is the gold comes from a muslim land, Shakiso, and is mined by a Muslim business man, Al Amoudin.
    How can such a religion still get followers in this modern age? How corrupt is a christian mind? I just don’t understand how Ethiopian christians still stick to these archaic religion- Religion of terror. Read the Bible and you will see the words terror and sword used for the first time in the history of the holy Scriptures. The list goes on and on. Christianity is one of the most crime riddled religion. It is rather a cult. Who is going to Afghanistan to kill innocent people? A Muslim? All the guns used in Afghanistan have Bible quotes written on them. To your surprise now microwave weapons(radiation) are being used on civilian Afghans. Is this the teaching of the Bible of Paul?
    I hate this cult religion.

  28. Gragn Ahmed on

    Assta,
    Let me make some corrections.
    1. fellowmuslims = fellow muslims
    2. Otherwise you will lose the cinfidence of others.
    I meant to say:
    “confidence”
    3. Islam,Muezzin = Islam Muezzin
    4. in Islam = In Islam

    Final remark, my fellow muslims Assta Getu should not be harmed in any way. I admire him for being so blatant about his religous zeal. He fights day and night for what he believes in. That has impressed me a lot. Other than that he has no substance and he has no logic. I ask you my dear fellow muslim readers to fight for your cause first using the hikma, using the pen. Remember the first verse of the Quran “Iqra”. Read, then write in a way that is uplifting to my muslim brothers and sisters who for centuries have been deprived of the right for citixenship, the right to govern, the right to be part of decision making. If I have passed this spirit then my country Ethiopia will be a blessed one- a muslim , sheria abiding and peaceful country with itself and with its good natured Muslim neighbors. Those who respect their neighbors are respected by their God.

    On the other hand, those of you the christians who pretend you love us I have asked you to show your disdain for lunatic and self acclaiming self appointed worshipers of Paul.

    I can not be a part of criminal religion.

    If indeed Assta is supported by the majority christians so be it. We only have to be as strong and hard as diamond.

    Pray the time has finally come to be bold and to take the law into our hands if the Eyane goverment can not defend our religion.

    I advise every muslim Ethiopian to act bold, to raise his or her head up and show disrespect for those who disrespect her hijab or his coffia. Don’t let those insult you or degrade your humanity.

    If I have to respond to every garbage Assta is writing, it will take me weeks. I don’t know if Assta ever sleeps to write such a senseless long article.

    I advise Assta to commit yourself to Islam and we will love you. Remember the Dutch Muslim hater finally reverted to Islam? So free your self from arrogance and come back to Islam.

    Pray for this man my fellow Muslims.

  29. Assta B. Gettu on

    Gragn Ahmed #133,

    Every body knows Muhammadans never keep their words: in your comment 78, you said in writing: “This is my final comment.” Here we see you again muddling with an issue that has never been your bailiwick. What forces you come again? Do my comments and the comments of other truth-lovers incite you to appear after you have been knocked down until you said: “This is my final comment”? (allah Akbar!)

    If you don’t recognize the Hadith that Bukhari, a well-known historian, wrote, then go with your own distorted and unreliable Hadith that evades the widely documented mistreatments of blacks, women, captives, infidels (Jews and Christians), and the beheadings, the maiming, the burnings of villages after villages, and the slaughtering of thousands of Jews and Christians your false prophet Muhammad perpetrated in the name of the moon-god, allah. You must go back and re-read the following comments: #6; 25; 29; 46; 64; 74; 84; 86; 106; 108; 112; 121; 127; and 128. Then, you come back with a precise answer. If you are not uncomfortable with Bukhari’s descriptions of Muhammad’s sexual behavior, you can use the Satanic Verses in Quran that I have quoted, or you can have whomever you want as your Quran says:

    Qur’an 33:51 “You may have whomever you desire; there is no blame.” Whether you use a distorted Hadith or the Satanic Verses, there is no blame according to your Quran.

    First, divide your disorganized writings into paragraphs; if you don’t know how to, then go and find some Amhara friends to help you out in your English writings. The reason why you wrote at least three pages without any paragraph shows the readers you are the most imprudent person who confuses the readers and yourself.

    Why do I have to waste my time with a confused person? I simply want to tell my readers what is in the Quran and what is in the Hadith, and how the immoral Muhammad had deceived so many people within a short time.

    No one said Dirham is the name of a person, and you want to divert the attentions of the readers from the main issues that Islam is the religion of the Arabs and blacks are considered men of no linage:

    “It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.” (Ishaq: 450) Christians have always been Muhammad’s slaves:

    “According to my information, the Apostle often sat by a young Christian slave named Jabr. The Meccans said, ‘He is the one who teaches Muhammad most of what he brings.’ Then Allah revealed, Qur’an 16:103 ‘We know what they (pagans) say: “It is only a mortal man who teaches him (Muhammad). But the tongue of the man they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this (Qur’an) is pure Arabic.'” (Ishaq: 180)

    The whole point is Satan revealed the Quran and the Hadith to Muhammad and Muhammad’s audiences were the demons:

    “Satan Cast a False Qur’an Revelation on the Messenger of Allah’s Tongue.” (Tabari VI:107) And of course, as I have said, his listeners were the Jinns and the Devils:

    “So, since we [Jinn/Devils] have listened to the guidance (of the Qur’an), we have accepted (Islam): and any who believes in his Lord has no fear of loss, force, or oppression.” (Qur’an 72:13) Muhammad was asked how he knew that the Devils had accepted the Quran; Muhammad gave the following answer:

    “‘Who informed you Prophet about the Jinn [Demons] when they heard the Qur’an?’ He said, ‘A tree informed me about them.'” (Bukhari:V5B58N199)

    According to Muhammad’s Quran, all the prophets – Moses, Aaron, Joshua, Elijah, Elisa, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, and all the Minor Prophets – prophesied as the devil revealed to them the prophecy:

    “Every Messenger or Prophet before you recited the message Satan cast into his recitation.” (Qur’an 22:52)

    We have seen adequate evidence that Muhammad’s Quran is from Satan and Muhammad’s audiences are the Jinns and the demons, and that is why the Muslims have the Sharia law that allows the Muslims to shade the blood of innocent Christians to satisfy the desires of the audiences – the Jinns and the demons. As we know, the desires of the demons and the Jinns have been always blood and flesh, and they have been getting the bloods and the flesh of innocent Christians in Pakistan, in Nigeria, in Afghanistan, in Somalia, and in many other Arab-Muslim countries.

    At the beginning of this comment, I criticized Gragn Ahmed for not keeping his word after he said that his comment #78 was the last one, but he came back. We should not be surprised why he did not keep his word because his false prophet did the same thing:

    “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.'” (Bukhari: V7B67N427)

    In this case, we should not make any treaty or any religious or political compact with any Arab-Muslim nations: they are liars and treaty breakers, so we cannot trust them. For example, the Arabs broke the 1949 Armistice Agreement between Israel, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria. Then these four Arab nations supported by other Arab countries such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Morocco, and Algeria attacked the tiny nation – Israel. It took only six days for the Israelis to crash all the nine Arab nations. Most of the Israelis fighters were young Israeli girl in their 20s.

    As the Israelis did such a feat, wee Ethiopian Christians can even do better if we are attacked by Gragn Ahmed’s timid followers- the Arab Muslims in Ethiopia: It will take us only 24 hours to wipe them out of our country.

    Alarmed by the victories the Ethiopian Christians achieved at Adwa in 1896 and at Lake Tana in 1542, Gragn Ahmed wrote: “Close to 10,000 priests live now in Ethiopia paid by Western missionaries. We will cut off their hands soon.” That was what the Biblical Goliath said to David: ‘Come here and I will give your flesh to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field’ (1st Samuel 17:44), and you know what happened to Goliath. We Ethiopian Christians will do the same thing to you coward Muslims.

    What is your evidence that Ate Yohannes had killed over 20,000 Wollo Muslims, and if you think Gragn Muhammad was a true hero, why were he and his Ethiopian Muslim followers were defeated and destroyed, and the remaining of those Ethiopian Muslims are now simply weavers and inferior human beings, living under the mercy of the Christian kingdom?

    You claim the Muslims liberated South Africa; you are absolutely wrong: it was Nelson Mandela, Desman Tutu, and other notable South African Christians who set South Africa free. Arab Muslims are naturally craven people: they only know to sell and purchase the unfortunate poor black men and women. For example, the Sudanese Janjaweed Arab Muslims humiliated the Sudanese Black Muslims by owning theme as their properties and selling them at any price, and finally destroying their villages, by burning their houses, cattle, goats and by killing thousands of them. This is what the Arab religion Islam does to the Muslim Black people. Therefore, I advise all Black Muslims in the world to denounce the Arab religion Islam and join Christianity that says:

    “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:28), and this is the beauty of Christianity, but the cruelty of Islam is this:

    “The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.” (Ishaq:465) Even a lady that has a good spirit as Aisha testified was beheaded:

    “Suddenly an unseen voice called out her name. It said, ‘Where is so and so.’ She said, ‘Here I am.’ ‘Good heavens,’ I cried, ‘what is wrong.’ She said, ‘I am going to be killed because of something I did.’ She was taken away and beheaded. Aisha used to say, ‘I shall never forget my wonder at her good spirits, even when she knew she would be killed.'” (Ishaq: 464/Tabari VIII: 36)

    Gragn Ahmed, don’t forget to go to Mecca to kiss the Black Stone and to give some gifts to the remaining Idols, and you better pick another new idol because you moon-god, allah, is getting old, getting blind and deaf. We Christians believe in Jesus Christ, the true Son of God, but you Muslims believe in a moon-god, and that is why you are the cruelest race on this earth like your Muhammad, the messenger of the devil.

    In the future, the Americans, the British, and the rest of the Christian world will not deter to use not only guns but the most sophisticated weapons that you have never seen in your life. And that will settle our problems with these backward Arab Muslims.

  30. Muslim-Christian Ethiopia United on

    To Gragn Ahmed:

    Reasoning and providing rational with this this evil person called “Assta” does not change any thing. Because at the end of the day, this person’s pre-conceived notion and hatred toward Islam would overpower him. Don’t be fooled by his assertion that the majority of Christians are behind him. This is simply not true. I am a Muslim Ethiopian and most of my friends are from Christian families, and they have no hostility toward my Islamic faith what so ever. In fact, my friends’ attitude toward Islam is so positive that some of them even fast Ramadan with me. Thus, this evil Assta’s extremist and hateful positions have no place in the main stream Christianity. This evil individual implied that he has been in US or some Western country for a long time, and yet he has not grasped the basic concept of “separation of State from the Church”, an idea which guarantees religious pluralism and State’s neutrality. Instead, he keeps talking about Ethiopian Christian Kingdom, Expulsion of Ethiopian Muslims and other unachievable and unrealistic statements. In Western countries including U.S., and also in Ethiopia and other countries, Islam is the fastest growing religion, and this growth is just a natural process, which Assta wants to reverse through blasphemy and misleading statements. Any attempt by outdated and backward individual like Assta to restrict religious freedom of others in Ethiopia or elsewhere would be highly laughable. Needless to say that reality dictates religious pluralism and coexistence every where in the world, let alone In Ethiopia, a country where such pluralism has been the norm for centuries. With respect to Ethiopian State favoring one religion, and calling it a State religion, that ended in 1974 and was replaced by State’s religious neutrality just like other civilized nations. This replacement is permanent, and no resentful person can undo it.

  31. ex muslim man on

    One interesting way that some off the original verses of the Quran were lost is that a follower of Muhammad named Abdollah Sarh would make suggestions to Muhammad about rephrasing, adding to, or subtracting from the Suras. Muhammad often did as Sarh suggested.

    Ali Dashti explains what happened:

    “Abdollah renounced Islam on the ground that the revelations, if from God, could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as he. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites” (Dashti, 23 Years, p. 98).

    It is no wonder that when Muhammad conquered Mecca one of the first people he killed was Abdollah, for he knew too much and opened his mouth too often.

    Some Verses Abrogated
    In the abrogation process spoken of earlier, verses which are contradictory to Muslim faith and practice have been removed from the text, such as the “satanic verses” in which Muhammad approved of the worship of the three goddesses, the daughters of Allah.

    The Arabic scholar E. Wherry comments:

    “There being some passages in the Quran which are contradictory, the Muhammadan doctors obviate any objection from thence by the doctrine of abrogation; for they say that God in the Quran commanded several things which were for good reasons afterwards revoked and abrogated” (A Comprehensive Commentary on the Qurun, p. 110).

    Wherry goes on to document numerous examples of verses taken out of the Quran.

    Canon Sell in his work, Historical Development of the Quran, also comments on the practice of abrogating verses out of the Quran if they are troublesome:

    “It is to us astounding how so compromising a procedure can have been permitted to be introduced into the system by friends and foes (Madras: Diocesan Press, 1923, pp. 36-37).

    So please stop worshiping the moon god and accept christ before it is to late.
    (Excerpts from “The Islamic Invasion” by Dr. Robert Morey; Harvest Home Publishers, 1992. ISBN 0-89081-983-1)
    Thanks abdollah for the secret

  32. Assta B. Gettu on

    Gragn Ahmed #134,

    Now you are coming to your senses when you advise your violent and irrational Muslims to use their pens instead of their guns, knives and swords that Muhammad the prophet left them as their Muslim heritages to conquer the whole world. But using pens to argue with one’s opponent is a Christian way, not a Muslim way.

    When you say that I have no substance, and I have no logic, what do you mean? Do you think telling to your Muslim followers that Muhammad had raped a 9-year-old girl when he was 53 years old makes me an illogical person or a person without a sense? I am telling the whole truth while you are covering the whole bad story about your Muhammad, your Islam, your cruelty, and about your greed for money and power. All these evil elements are in your books that you call holy Quran or Hadith.

    Your wish for Ethiopia to be a Muslim country governed by the sharia law indicates you are wishing a complete annihilation of Christianity in Ethiopia; you know how many Sudanese people opposed the introduction of the Sharia law into their Muslim country. In this case, the introduction of a Sharia law into the Christian country, Ethiopia, is unthinkable.

    You wrote: “…those of you the christians [Christians] who pretend you love us [,] I ask you to show your disdain for lunatic [,] (and) self[-] acclaiming [and] self[-]appointed worshiper of Paul.”

    How could we love you when you have a law in you Quran that says: “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends….” (Quran 5:51)? You are just a pretender, not a true friend of the Christians; you say something, and your Quran tells another story.

    As you worship Muhammad, we Christians do not worship either peter or Paul: we worship Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God who died for our sins; indeed, we accept Paul’s words as authentic ones, inspired by the Holy Spirit, and that is why we have them in our Holly Bible. We know you hate Paul because of his belief in equality among all human beings, but Muhammad enslaves men and women and forces people to accept his demonic teachings. If they refuse to accept his message, they will be beheaded, so they have no choice but to believe in Muhammad as their Allah.

    Yes, your religion is full of crimes, and I am glad you don’t want to be part of it as you said: “I can not be a part of criminal religion.” And at the same time I see you resorting to violence when you express the following uncalled-for statement: “Pray the time has finally come to be bold and to take the law into our hands if the Eyane [Woyanne] government can not defend our religion.” To take the law into one’s hand means to be a lawless person. Don’t you know most Muslims have never been law-abiding citizens? If they were, we wouldn’t have sent our boys and girls to Iraq and to Afghanistan. If they were, they wouldn’t have killed over 70 people in Uganda and in many other places just few weeks ago.

    You want to defend hijab, if so, why don’t you go to France and join the Muslim demonstrators there? You are the headaches of the whole world and you demand so many things from us: you demand a land to build a Masque; you demand a land for your dead; you demand your Muslim holy days to be national ones; you demand the Jews to be thrown into the Mediterranean Sea, you demand the Americans to get out of Afghanistan, and you demand the whole world to accept Islam. So many demands but with no success! Why no success, because you are violent people, and the whole world hates you, wants to get rid of you and likes to live in peace without you.

    For Muslims who marry 3,4, and 5 wives, indeed, my articles are, as you said, garbage, senseless and long because my articles are basically against the fundamental Muslim believes: adultery, idolatry, greed for money and power, laziness, bloodshed, the subjugation of women, and the dehumanization of black people.

    Finally, Mr. Gragn Ahmed invites me to accept Islam so that I could get my training somewhere in Pakistan to blow up a bridge, kill thousands of people, and be killed; then go straight to paradise, enjoy the paradise virgin girls, drink wine, and live in bliss or ecstasy for eternity.

    No, thank you, Mr. Gragn Ahmed! I am more comfortable to live with Jesus Christ than to live with the anti-Christ Muhammad, the rapist, the cheater, and the messenger of the devil.

  33. Gragn Ahmed on

    Please repost this comment with correction.

    Assta #131

    A. “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he is a black African slave whose head looks like a raisin.'” (Bukhari: V9B89N256)

    That is what the hadith says. I agree with this hadith because it treats even the black man of that period with same distinction as Arabs. A case in point,bilal ibn Rabah, the slave Ethiopian was appointed one of the highest position in Islam,Muezzin. in Islam it not skin color but your talent that is important in the eyes of Allah. Not your Bible who people used it to justify slavery and colonization.

    B. Compare the following two hadiths:

    You wrote:
    “The Prophet said, ‘Let the negro slave of Dinar perish. And if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him…. If he [the black slave] asks for anything it shall not be granted, and if he needs intercession [to get into paradise], his intercession will be denied.'” (Bukhari:V4B52N137).
    Compare the above hadith with the one below taken from a reliable source:
    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/052.sbt.html

    I politely ask the readers of this website to check the above link to find the unmodified Hadith.

    Here is the Hadith as originally reported:
    Volume 4, Book 52, Number 137:
    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    The Prophet said, “Let the slave of Dinar and Dirham of Quantify and Khamisa (i.e. money and luxurious clothes) perish for he is pleased if these things are given to him, and if not, he is displeased!”
    Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, ” Let the slave of Dinar and Dirham, of Quantify and Khamisa perish as he is pleased if these things are given to him, and if not, he is displeased. Let such a person perish and relapse, and if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him. Paradise is for him who holds the reins of his horse to strive in Allah’s Cause, with his hair unkempt and feet covered with dust: if he is appointed in the vanguard, he is perfectly satisfied with his post of guarding, and if he is appointed in the rearward, he accepts his post with satisfaction; (he is so simple and unambiguous that) if he asks for permission he is not permitted, and if he intercedes, his intercession is not accepted.”

    Assta, you never give us any reliable source where we can check the reliability of your hadith or history. Please do give us your source next time. Otherwise you will lose the cinfidence of others.

    Moreover, I find your knowledge of hadith very shaky. You fail to write the full information and you also erroneously added words to deliberately change the intended meaning of the hadith. Let me explain a little bit more. If you look at the Hadith above that I quoted the word negro is not found. But if you read your hadith you wrote above you inserted the word “negro” in the sentence. Where did you get this word from? Even if you we add “ negro”, the sentence becomes even more confusing.Read this phrase: “negro slave of Dirham…” taken from the above hadith you wrote. It makes no sense. Dirham is not a name of a person. It is a form of money. So, if you read it again it does not have any sense. It is not saying “negro slave of Ahmed or Abbas”. According to your own hadith, the phrase will mean” negro slave of 10 Birr or money”. Can you still make sense? NO. So the correct phrase is “a slave of money or Dirham” and this an Arabic idiom and it means money lover or greedy people.

    So, whoever made the changes to the original Hadith is a negro slave of Satan himself. It could be you Assta and your fellow christian fanatics who did such satanic work.
    I have never seen a person like you Assta who thinks he knows everything. I urge you to stop quoting a misguided and fabricated Hadith.

    I started to laugh when I read the following Hadith:

    “When Allah’s Apostle became seriously sick, he started covering his face with a woolen sheet. When he felt short of breath, he removed it, and said, ‘That is so! Allah’s curse be on Jews and Christians.’ (Bukhari: v5B559N727). My question is where did you get this hadith? Volume 5, Book 559, Number 727? Please respect your fanatic followers so they trust you.

    Finally, you repeatedly write about your hate for Muslims and Islam. Only Satanic spirit guides people like you Assta who carelessly write and spread hate among people. Christians lived for thousands of years with Muslims by paying taxes who are you to say now this is impossible? You have a paranoid and actually I have diagnosed your sickness and I will soon write about it. InshAllah. You hate muslims because your Bible asks you to do so. Read the following excerpt you wrote on this web site:

    “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18) Again John further testify that Jesus is indeed the Son of God: “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. “Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. (John 5:24-25).

    I am sure there are more than 850 Imams, prophets of the moon-god, allah, in Ethiopia, and these Imams are paid by the Saudi kingdom to strengthen Islam in Ethiopia and to weaken Christianity; therefore, we may not kill all the 40 million Ethiopian Muslims who worship the moon-god, allah, but we are capable of seizing the more than 850 Imams in Ethiopia, taking them down to the Abay River, and slaughtering them all for misleading the 40 million Ethiopian Muslims. That is what we shall do first when a democratically elected Christian person takes over the power from the Woyanne government. We must cleanse Ethiopia from the infectious disease – Islam – and make the country smooth for the new Christian leader.

    Do you think the sons and daughters of Islam will sit idly to see our Imam get killed by the murderer atse Libne Degnels? Clearly Allah will be with us to wipe out all the devil priests from East to West and from North to South. Every church will be burnt along with every priest of every single Church. Close to 10,000 priests live now in Ethiopia paid by Western missionaries. We will cut off their hands soon.

    #113 visitor
    You are one of those fanatic christians who openly showed support, unlike the rest of the visitors of this web site who are silent, to Assta Getu’s unbound and irresponsible comments.

    I have been saying but with vain to my fellowmuslims that Christian Ethiopians are hiding their true feeling all the time against Muslims of Ethiopia. Silence means acceptance. Of the two hundred visitors of this website who posted comments, only a few denounced Assta Getu. Now you tell me that all Muslims kill Christians. A little bit of history on crimes of Christian Ethiopia will settle my point.

    1. Who killed 20,000 Muslims of Wollo in a single day who refused to convert to christianity and who protested their eviction from their own “keye”? Yohannes or Ahmed Al Ghazali? These civilians were not soldiers whereas Imam Ahmed (a.k.a. Gragn) never forced a single Christian to convert.

    Imam Ahmed was a true hero. He was confident and superior over his enemies. He did not have to evict his own people out like the coward Yohannes did. Ethiopian Muslim history must be rewritten. The story of Muslim Heritages of Wollo, Shimbera Kore, Tana, Denbia, Jimma, and Aba Jiffar will show the glory of our Muslim Ethiopia. Our Muslim Heritage is quite long to list: Yifat dynasty, the Hadiya, Welasma (King Sebredin for example), and more. We need to errect statues and historic Museums in these areas.

    Moreover, no known Ethiopian leader has a pure christian blood. Haile Selassie, Beyene Petros, Birhanu Nega or Meles have all Muslim blood. All Ethiopians ARE INFACT ARABS ALTHOUGH CHRISTIANS DENY IT.

    2. Who Killed the Muslims of Harar during the invasion of Menelik II? A muslim empire or a christian empire.? Remember Chelenko?

    3. Who kills Oromo and Somali muslims in the name of terror? Pregnant women getting bombed everyday by the christian Army.

    4. You say Meles is supported by Muslims. On the other hand you support the West which gives 1 billion dollar every year to the Meles regime who kills Somalis every day. I know you change sides whenever it feels convenient.

    I urge every black African to embrace the true religion of God, the eternal Allah, who has no son. Islam has emancipated the slaves of Apartheid of South Africa and is free from the crimes purported by Christian colonialists. Christianity is a religion of colonization and neocolonization. Africa especially Ethiopia will not grow when power is still in the hands of Orthodox fanatics- the followers of the most backward religion. They are worshipers of a tabot, a piece of wood plated with Gold. The funny thing is the gold comes from a muslim land, Shakiso, and is mined by a Muslim business man, Al Amoudin.

    How can such a religion still get followers in this modern age? How corrupt is a christian mind? I just don’t understand how Ethiopian christians still stick to these archaic religion- Religion of terror. Read the Bible and you will see the words terror and sword used for the first time in the history of the holy Scriptures. The list goes on and on.

    Christianity is one of the most crime riddled religion.It is rather a cult. Who is going to Afghanistan to kill innocent people? A Muslim? All the guns used in Afghanistan have Bible quotes written on them. To your surprise now microwave weapons(radiation) are being used on civilian Afghans. Is this the teaching of the Bible of Paul?
    I hate this cult religion.

    July 29th, 2010 at 3:01 PM
    1. Gragn Ahmed says:
    Assta,
    Let me make some corrections.
    1. fellowmuslims = fellow muslims
    2. Otherwise you will lose the cinfidence of others.
    I meant to say:
    “confidence”
    3. Islam,Muezzin = Islam Muezzin
    4. in Islam = In Islam

    Final remark, my fellow muslims Assta Getu should not be harmed in any way.

    I admire him for being so blatant about his religous zeal. He fights day and night for what he believes in. That has impressed me a lot. Other than that he has no substance and he has no logic. I ask you my dear fellow muslim readers to fight for your cause first using the hikma, using the pen. Remember the first verse of the Quran “Iqra”. Read, then write in a way that is uplifting to my muslim brothers and sisters who for centuries have been deprived of the right for citixenship, the right to govern, the right to be part of decision making. If I have passed this spirit then my country Ethiopia will be a blessed one- a muslim , sheria abiding and peaceful country with itself and with its good natured Muslim neighbors. Those who respect their neighbors are respected by their God.

    On the other hand, those of you the christians who pretend you love us I have asked you to show your disdain for lunatic and self acclaiming self appointed worshipers of Paul.

    I can not be a part of criminal religion.
    If indeed Assta is supported by the majority christians so be it. We only have to be as strong and hard as diamond.
    Pray the time has finally come to be bold and to take the law into our hands if the Eyane goverment can not defend our religion.

    I advise every muslim Ethiopian to act bold, to raise his or her head up and show disrespect for those who disrespect her hijab or his coffia. Don’t let those insult you or degrade your humanity.

    If I have to respond to every garbage Assta is writing, it will take me weeks. I don’t know if Assta ever sleeps to write such a senseless long article.
    I advise Assta to commit yourself to Islam and we will love you. Remember the Dutch Muslim hater finally reverted to Islam? So free your self from arrogance and come back to Islam.

    Pray for this man my fellow Muslims.

  34. Gragn Ahmed on

    Assta #135: the tabot worshiping disciple of Paul – the author of Trinity.

    First of all, no Amhara can correct me my English. I am Amhara myself. Second, you need an Amhara Muslim to correct your own mistakes let alone correct others. Third, I notice that you are the most confused and a person without a functioning central brain filter system.

    You lack a good writing style. Your style is too boring. It always uses the same style and you tend to repeat words over and over which irritates the reader because it lacks sophistication. You repeat the word “moon –god, allah” so many times that one misses your whole point. You are unable to write something that is focused and logical.

    Moreover, I see that you never respond to any of the questions I asked you. I gave you a reliable, non-muslim web site, a University website, a very well known website as a reliable source of Hadith. However, you ignored it. You are one of those people who went Astray.

    If a Christian gets killed it is because he did something mischievous. So he deserves it. For example, a person like you who writes without logic, whose food and drink is to hate Islam, to call them inferiors, to insult them as weavers deserves death. I am afraid Ethiopian Muslims will get your head soon. I am trying to save you. Please accept your coward act. You failed to provide the publisher of the Book, the name of the translator and the year and place of publication for your fake Hadith.

    Hadith is not Bible- a Book that is carelessly written; has a lot of factual errors; and which contradicts with itself. Hadith is like the modern science book: it requires you to confirm the source of original information through chain of reporters. Hadith is far better written than your disorganized Bible. Similarly, your comments reflect your own Bible’s weaknesses. I guess the disciple Assta cannot be better than his master Paul the big liar.

    I remember one time at nazret.com, you wrote such a comment that openly exposed your panic so much that someone had to reprimand you for showing the weak Christian’s psych. Most of your writings reflect your weakness, panic and your sleepless nights. I see that you lack integrity in your responses and ignore facts or simply dismiss those parts of Bible that don’t suit with your personal preference.

    Having said that, let me specifically point to some of the issues I have from your last posted comments.

    You misquoted the following Hadiths:

    A. “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.'” (Bukhari: V7B67N427).

    Compare it with this:
    Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427:

    Narrated Zahdam:
    We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari and there were friendly relations between us and this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the people there was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), “Come on (and eat), for I have seen Allah’s Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken).” He said, “I have seen it eating something (dirty) and since then I have disliked it, and have taken an oath that I shall not eat it ‘ Abu Musa said, “Come on, I will tell you (or narrate to you). Once I went to Allah s Apostle with a group of Al-Ash’ariyin, and met him while he was angry, distributing some camels of Rakat. We asked for mounts but he took an oath that he would not give us any mounts, and added, ‘I have nothing to mount you on’ In the meantime some camels of booty were brought to Allah’s Apostle and he asked twice, ‘Where are Al-Ash’ariyin?” So he gave us five white camels with big humps. We stayed for a short while (after we had covered a little distance), and then I said to my companions, “Allah’s Apostle has forgotten his oath. By Allah, if we do not remind Allah’s Apostle of his oath, we will never be successful.” So we returned to the Prophet and said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We asked you for mounts, but you took an oath that you would not give us any mounts; we think that you have forgotten your oath.’ He said, ‘It is Allah Who has given you mounts. By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oath and later find something else better than that. then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’ ”

    B. “‘Who informed you Prophet about the Jinn [Demons] when they heard the Qur’an?’ He said, ‘A tree informed me about them.'” (Bukhari:V5B58N199).
    Who told you to add Demons in bracket? I don’t see it in the original. You can not just add whatever suits you. Did not Solomon speak to ants? What is wrong with a tree? The Prophet, S.A.W. also split the moon. Read the following Hadith:

    Volume 5, Book 58, Number 208:
    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    The people of Mecca asked Allah’s Apostle to show them a miracle. So he showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram’ mountain.

    Please also correct your mistakes. I know when you are in panic to respond fast you jump on things and make a lot of errors like the authors of your Bible the devil spirited Paul, Mark, Lukas, Peter and John. You even spelt my name wrong. You are a pathetic old man.

    A. No one said Dirham is the name of a person, and you want to divert the attentions of the readers from the main issues that Islam is the religion of the Arabs and blacks are considered men of no linage:

    B. As the Israelis did such a feat, wee Ethiopian Christians can even do better if we are attacked by Gragn Ahmed’s timid followers- the Arab Muslims in Ethiopia: It will take us only 24 hours to wipe them out of our country.

    C. In the future, the Americans, the British, and the rest of the Christian world will not deter to use not only guns but the most sophisticated weapons that you have never seen in your life. And that will settle our problems with these backward Arab Muslims. Gragn Ahmed says:

    You also need to make the following correction:

    “This is my final comment”? (allah Akbar!). Who told you “Allah Akbar” means it is my final comment? Allah Akbar is Allah is Great. You can say it in the middle or end of any event. This is the person who wants to comment on our Hadith. Since you cannot find mistakes from Quraan, you hopelessly try to create some confusion on our Hadith written by Bukhari.

    Bukhari is the true son of Islam from the former Soviet union who traveled all over the Middle- east to collect the Hadith. He effortlessly collected one of the most historically accurate collections of oral traditions. The Bible does not reach this level of accuracy. Quraan is even far superior to Bible in its accuracy alone. So to come back to my point, I had said it was my final comment but your hate speech was so intense after I said that. You thought I will never come back when you become so wild? I will never stop hunting cowards like you, the family of Lebne Dengil.
    You also wrote:

    “Muhammad perpetrated in the name of the moon-god, allah. You must go back and re-read the following comments: #6; 25; 29; 46; 64; 74; 84; 86; 106; 108; 112; 121; 127; and 128.” I read some of them but this one captured my attention:

    “I warn you, leave Ethiopia and go to the place where you come from; you know you came to Ethiopia as a Muslim refugee from Mecca, and to Mecca you go.” How many times you wrote this type of hate sentences???

    Is this what your Paul says? My way or you get out? Who gave you the power to do so? We are feeding the Amhara Christians by working hard and with our coffee and gold. Tell me what Christian lands offer to Ethiopian muslims? Nothing, nadda. Instead, you guys are parasites; you have evil eyes and characters; you teach how to insult others, spoil girls,and rape innocent girls i.e. the practice of “telefa”. Nothing can be learned from Amhara Christians.

    Infact , unless we change the Amhara Christians from the shackles of the dogma of the “tabot enchet” worshiping orthodox Christianity and bring them to the fold of free mind Islamic life , Ethiopia will go down to history as the most backpedaling nation.

    I can assure you that you love the following:

    Free sex including prostitution, gambling, naked women; gays, alcohol, pornography, rape and slavery of Black men, and finally oppression of women and Muslims

    Exactly this is what your Bible also loves. Bible loves tabot the piece of wood and pornography. Paul loves to eat pork. See this link: http://www.evilbible .com

    Did your devil God not say I created man in his image? Assta loves free sex, so does his God-quite understandable.

    Reference
    Hadith source
    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/
    Quraan source
    1. Yusuf Ali
    http://www.harunyahya.com/Quran_translation/Quran_translation_index.php
    2. Ibn Qatir
    http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=4&id=126&Itemid=35
    I urge Assta to reveal his sources. I think Assta has a foreign coach who helps him with fabricating and corrupting our monumental Islamic works. He is an agent of those who hate us. Otherwise I will respond in kind. Garbage in, garbage out.
    Also, write concisely and preferably shorter ones. If you can not explain yourself in short paragraphs then you lack one of the key elements of good articles. Only Ethiopian review allows such monotonous and excessively long articles to dirty its web site full of garbage.
    If you don’t know how I will find you Muslim writers to coach you.
    Assalamualeikum.

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