Ethiopian Christians abused by Saudi Arabia police – HRW


EDITOR’S NOTE: The Woyanne is exporting 25,000 Ethiopian women to Saudi Arabia where they will be subjected toem to similar treatment.

(Human Rights Watch) — Thirty five Ethiopian Christians are awaiting deportation from Saudi Arabia for “illicit mingling,” after police arrested them when they raided a private prayer gathering in Jeddah in mid-December, 2011, Human Rights Watch said today. Of those arrested, 29 were women. They were subjected to arbitrary body cavity searches in custody, three of the Ethiopians told Human Rights Watch.

The Ethiopians gathered to pray together on December 15, during the advent of Christmas, in the private home of one of the Ethiopians, when police burst in and arrested them, three jailed members of the group, two women and one man, told Human Rights Watch.

“While King Abdullah sets up an international interfaith dialogue center, his police are trampling on the rights of believers of others faiths,” said Christoph Wilcke, senior Middle East researcher for Human Rights Watch. “The Saudi government needs to change its own intolerant ways before it can promote religious dialogue abroad.”

In October, Saudi Arabia, together with Austria and Spain, founded the King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz International Centre for Interreligious and Intercultural Dialogue, located in Vienna, and funded by Saudi Arabia.

The Ethiopian men spent two days at al-Nuzha police station in Jeddah, after which the police transferred them to Buraiman prison. The women had already been transferred to Buraiman prison. Two of the women said that officials there forced the women to strip, and then an officer inserted her finger into each of the women’s genitals, under the pretext of searching for illegal substances hidden inside their bodies. She wore a plastic glove that she did not change, the women told Human Rights Watch. Officers also kicked and beat the men in Buraiman prison, and insulted them as “unbelievers,” the jailed Ethiopian man said.

Both men and women complained of inadequate medical care and unsanitary conditions at Buraiman prison. There were too few toilets, they said. In the men’s wing, six of twelve toilets were reserved for Saudi inmates, while hundreds of foreign inmates were forced to share the remaining six toilets. One female detainee said she suffers from diabetes and was given an injection in the prison clinic that caused swelling, and has received no further medical attention.

The Ethiopians, speaking via telephone from prison, said that about 10 days after being arrested, some in the group were taken to court, where they were forced to affix their fingerprints to a document without being allowed to read it. Officials told the group that they were being charged with “illicit mingling” of unmarried persons of the opposite sex. Some of the Ethiopians have been living in the kingdom for 16 years, while others are newer arrivals. Some of the women and men did not have valid residency papers, but all faced deportation, including those with valid papers, the jailed Ethiopian man said.

In July 2006, the Saudi government promised that it would stop interfering with private worship by non-Muslims. In a “Confirmation of Policies,” a written document the Saudi government sent to the US government, Saudi Arabia said it would “guarantee and protect the right to private worship for all, including non-Muslims who gather in homes for religious practice,” and “ensure that members of the [religious police] do not detain or conduct investigations of suspects, implement punishment, [or] violate the sanctity of private homes.” In this document, the government also said it would investigate any infringements of these policies. Public worship of any religion other than Islam remains prohibited in the kingdom.

“Saudi authorities have broken their promises to respect other faiths,” Wilcke said. “Men and women of other faiths have nowhere to worship in Saudi Arabia if even their private homes are no longer safe.”

The Arab Charter of Human Rights, to which Saudi Arabia is a state party, guarantees “[t]he freedom to manifest one’s religion or beliefs or to perform religious observances, either alone or in community with others,” and prohibits “arbitrary arrest.”

Saudi Arabia has no codified criminal law or other law that defines “illicit mingling.” In 2006, Shaikh Ibrahim al-Ghaith, the president of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, the religious police, told Human Rights Watch in an interview in Riyadh, “Mingling of the sexes is prohibited in public, and permitted in private unless it is for the purpose of corruption.”

Human Rights Watch called on the Saudi authorities to release the 35 Ethiopian men and women immediately if there is no evidence to charge them with offenses that are recognizably criminal under international norms. Saudi authorities should also investigate their allegations of physical and sexual abuse and, if warranted, compensate them for arbitrary arrest and any mistreatment they endured, and to hold accountable any officials found to be responsible for these acts.

Human Rights Watch also called on the authorities to allow members of the group who fear persecution in Ethiopia to lodge asylum claims with the UN Refugee Agency.


47 thoughts on “Ethiopian Christians abused by Saudi Arabia police – HRW

  1. tigist on

    What I am going to say as a christian for this cruel Islam government?
    Saudis are free to worship their faith in my country US.

  2. Selam on

    Islam is forgery,and her socalled prophet Mohamed is an imposter of the truth.Such being the case ,Islam can onlycan survive as a religion under certain curcumstances.That is the Arabs ,on the one hand, must spread it through a swords rather than through an appeal to the human councious.On the other hand they must keep their door closed for other faith ,and make sure followers of christianity be held to anathem. The world know that Islam is forgery,if it be autentic why do the folowers prohibit other religions from peacfully practicing their faith.They know full well if there be freedom of reliogion the majority of the Mulhas and shekis will be put out of business.No wander the Word of God has to say something about these people as in below.

    “But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.”Mt.21:13

    • Abdulilah on

      O Selam.You must either be ignorant or filled with hatred aginst other religions other than yours.Islam was never spread by sword.You can refer to any rational history books and come up with a single statement backing your position,take this as a challenge.you will see how christianity was spread in the philipines and other east asian countries.Given equal opportunity,Islam wins over the minds of human biengs because ,Islam commands what is goodness for human bieng and prohibits what is harmfull one.Islam doesn’t enourage helping the poor for the mere attracting him/her towards the religion,unlike other religions you and i know

    • Islam is the result of a sword, and it has never been peaceful if we have to speak the truth. It is the most untolerant relgion in the world.
      It doesnt allow believes of another faith to live with Islams. They call them infidels, and these infidels have to be converted to islam by force or killed. This is the truth!

      • Anonymous on

        Abdullah and Un,
        If you believe Islam is a peaceful, a merciful, tolerant to others to worship God/Allah or a moon or a stone; your outrage should be on the Saudis who abused and humiliated Ethiopian people who came to Saudi Arabia to be their servants. The Ethiopians were exercising their God given rights in their private time and space without hurting others. Your angers and outrage should not be directed at Ethiopians who are reacting about the despicable act of human rights abuse against young innocent Ethiopians at the hands of Saudis. Exercising religious freedom is every man and woman God given rights. God has given us a will to follow him, or not to follow him; the choice is ours. If God hasn’t given human beings the will and the freedom to worship what he/she chooses, this temporary world of ours, could have been destroyed by God in a matter of seconds without the help of a single Muslim or Christian. For Heaven’s sake, these Ethiopians didn’t commit a crime, they were simply worshiping and Praying to their personal savior God/Allah. As long as one does not hurt others, a Religious Freedom should never be a punishable crime.

        • Abdulilah on

          I was just defending Islam.That shouldn’t, in anyway ,be translated as justification for any mistreatement of christians by Saudis.I am categorically aginst oppression of freedom of religion provided one excercises his/her religion legally and peaefully.Any transgression here and there shouldn’t be attributed to Islam.Individual governments or persons can deny this right and right away should be confronted.My heart felt support remains with the victims.this is in no way reflection of Islam’s tolerance which embraced all other religious groups (christians and jews )over the centuries.Had Islam ,by priciple, been intolerant you would’nt have seen coptics,syrian christians,jordanian christians or yemeni jews.When jews were being chased in Europe Islamic countries were save haven for them.So please let’s together fight intolerance without prejudice.

    • Hirut on

      Selam, you are very wrong. you cannot insult a religion and specially their prophet in such a way. Pls refain from such activity. Let me tell you something. Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) has actually told the modern day savages that the great christian nation in Abissiniya would look after them and that they should go there for refuge when they were under attack. Today, they have forgotten even what their prophet, they so love told them. Modern day culture related crimes have got nothing to do with the real Islam which is much politicised and lost its way. Historically Islamic countries have provided protections and home for jews, so if they could live together,what happen today.

      The solution is let us stick with our issue.

  3. Woldu Sebagadis on

    This time I would like to thank you for raising the plight of Ethiopian Christians in the barbaric kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    If there is any mechanism by which we can help our sisters and brothers in that kingdom, please let’s know.

    when you do any thing that promotes the couse of our people and the interest of our beloved country, Ethiopia, we stand by your side.

    However, we want to see you stop your infatuation with the cursed breakawy province of Ethiopia.

    UNITED WE STAND!

    • Tezibt on

      Let us stay focused on what the article is about. Thanks but no thanks is what you are saying. Find the right article for your wrong comment.

  4. Tezibt on

    As a good chritian, i only want to remind the saudis that Mohammed sent his relatives to a safe sanctuary, Ethiopia, where they were safe and were able to pray peacefully. I expect that would be the case for ethiopians in Saudi also. I hope the Saudis take action to correct this. We should all work on making the voiceless heard. I just cant believe how our misery is multiplying. God forgive us.

  5. Anonymous on

    If What happened to Ethiopian Christians, happened to Saudi Arabians or some other Muslims somewhere in the world, Islamic suicide bombers would be bombing some Christian Churches left and right and rioting like mad men. The Saudi government are well aware that, the Woyane illegitimate government don’t care what happens to Ethiopians in and outside of Ethiopia and Ethiopians have no representative anywhere in the world. The Woyane Ambassador puppet in Saudi Arabia should have raised hell and outraged at Saudi Arabians for mistreating, disrespecting and humiliating Ethiopian citizens. The Saudi government would never disrespected and mistreated Americans, British, German, Italians and the French citizens as they mistreated Ethiopians. I don’t know what kind of God the Saudi’s believe in, but in the eyes of the God I believe in, MISTREATING INNOCENT POOR PEOPLE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SINS OF THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR PRAYERS! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

  6. Anonymous on

    We should go out and make mass protest in Saudi Embassy to oppose the crime they have committed against Ethiopian Christians , this is the time to protest. Saudi is spreading WEHABISIM in Ethiopia while they are abusing others for their faith. I urge all advocates of civil liberty to stand for justice,injustice for one is injustuice for all.

  7. observer on

    I am a Muslim and what the Saudis do is shameful. It is a highly repressive and barbaric kingdom. They just have oil.

  8. Abdulilah on

    I wrote a reply to Selam’s comments but you failed to display it,I think you are selective what suits your news,Shame!

    • Anonymous on

      Abdullah,
      If you’re justifying what the Saudis did to Ethiopians, here is a clue for you, go to other website that would accept your garbage. Causing Harm to others, belittling others, beating, torturing, killing, stealing, causing distractions, Selfishness, pouring boiling water on a young woman, raping young women, honor killing is SATANIC, it is as simple as that! The Merciful God is the source of LOVE and KINDNESS, period!

  9. Agazi Forces on

    The Agazi Forces are going to strike lebanon for the terrorist act against the ethiopian airlines flight last year and are also to strike against saudi arabia for the barbaric act against ethiopian christians after the operation against Eritrea.

    Funny woyanes! they chant shabia, shabia but no word against the arabs

  10. peace on

    people,

    do not be mislead. There is coordinated effort from outsiders and with TPLF to bring religion war within Ethiopia which will weaken Ethiopia. That is why, extreme relgions such as Wahabism, Pentecostal and evangelism that push aggressive conversion is being promoted within Ethiopia. So, let us stop and think for a moment before making things worse and falling into the trap of anti Ethiopians.

  11. Semhar on

    the Migration of the early muslims were not to Ethiopia But to Eritrea, and if you don’t like how the arabs treat you simply Don’t go there, Outside your Fairytale Head you are not special just a backward slave like People who are Treated worst than animals.

    • Hirut on

      Semhar, you are still in your narrow bubble. So, you use social issues to dis Ethiopians. How about if I tell you Eritrian brothers and sisters are not imune from these problems, in fact due to their proximity they are much more exposed to the same abuse. Does that brings excitment to me? Not at all. why, cause I am not an idiot and narrow minded nationalist like you. Don’t mix politics to human sufferings. What our respective idiots of politicans do has nothing to do with the ordinary people of the Ethiopia and Eritrea. we are people who suffer a lot-individuals who struggle to make ends meet everyday. open your eyes!!!

  12. Eden1 on

    Correction for Woldu Sebagadis:

    This time I would like to thank you for raising the plight of Ethiopian Christians in the barbaric kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    If there is any mechanism by which we can help our sisters and brothers in that kingdom, please let’s know.

    when you do any thing that promotes the cause of our people and the interest of our beloved country, Ethiopia, we stand by your side.

    However, we want to see you stop your infatuation with the cursed breakawy province of Are-Tera.

    UNITED WE STAND!

  13. Woldu Sebagadis on

    Correction:

    This time I would like to thank you for raising the plight of Ethiopian Christians in the barbaric kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    If there is any mechanism by which we can help our sisters and brothers in that kingdom, please let’s know.

    when you do any thing that promotes the cause of our people and the interest of our beloved country, Ethiopia, we stand by your side.

    However, we want to see you stop your infatuation with the cursed breakawy province of Are-Tera.

    UNITED WE STAND!

    • Berhane on

      This is a very good idea! In Saudi Arabia churchs are not allowed, so why we let the Saudi Arabians to pray in mosques in our country? Yes they should be banned from attending mosques, we have to pinpoint the Saudi citizens.

      • Aster on

        Ok I agree with you, but this is not possible under the Meles regime. Meles is the servant of Saudi Arabia.

  14. Sharif_jijiga on

    Will Tigist and SELAM tell me the religeon of ZENAWI? It is shameful that you spare zenawi religeon and potray it as colourful.. What matters here is not religeon, it is the barbarity of the regime just like MUGABE who is a christian priest and turned Zim into giant prison. We can’t blame Chiristianity on the myhem and disaster in ZIMBABWE, the same applies To Saudi_arabia. To the Editor sorry 4 tolerating and posting some hate_filled comments.

  15. Selam on

    [Sharif_jijiga],

    “Will Tigist and SELAM tell me the religeon of ZENAWI? It is shameful that you spare zenawi religeon and potray it as colourful.. What matters here is not religeon, it is the barbarity of the regime just like MUGABE who is a christian priest and turned Zim into giant prison. We can’t blame Chiristianity on the myhem and disaster in ZIMBABWE, the same applies To Saudi_arabia. To the Editor sorry 4 tolerating and posting some hate_filled comments.”

    First of all I oppose Zenawi on the matter of his policies.you asked what his religion is,I can not answer that for you you must ask Zenawi.if you ask my opinion I think he is irrelegious at best perhaps nominal christian at worst. However,I completely did agree with your assertion neither Zemababewe nor Ethiopia are Teocratic state they both are secular socities.Inother words, The Bible is not taken as state sanctiond judicial administraative law.NBeverthless,we can n ot say the same thing about Saudi Arabia.The Saudi Islamic tocracy sanctions Sharia or Islamic law as arule of duity for its citizens,and it enforces the same law to non Saudis. Unlike your conclusin islam is directly to be blamed in the saudis case.

  16. Lubaba on

    I hate being I am Muslim, if I converting to christian , my families will kill me. I know christian is the true religion.

  17. THESE SO CALLED CHRISTIANS WERE COMMITING A SIN EVEN BY ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS DEFINITION . THE BIBLE SAYS See Hebrews 11:13-16 – We are “strangers and pilgrims” in whatever land we happen to live. We must be obedient to the law of the land insofar as these laws do not contradict God’s law. We must pay our taxes and honour the country’s leadership but our citizenship is not in nor our loyalty to any earthly dominion. When the Lord Jesus Christ returns to establish his Father’s kingdom on the earth, then we will have a country. Until then we remain citizens of the Kingdom of God, “strangers and pligrims” with no other country and no “continuing city.” (Hebrews 13:14).

    IN THIS CASE The concern of the Saudi government WAS NOT whether they were celebrating christmas or doing Islamic prayer of selat at the time . Even if they were muslim Ethiopians they would have been deported for being found guilty OF mixing with unmarried persons of the opposite sex . THE CHARGE AND DEPORTATION IS not for FOR CELEBRATING CHRISTMAS IT is BECAUSE they violated the law of the land and were disgrace to Ethiopians worldwide by commiting an “illicit mingling” IN A WRONG PART OF THE WORLD WHILE KNOWING is outlawed in a Saudi Arabia. These disgraceful Ethiopians have been charged with mixing with unmarried persons of the opposite sex – not for being christianS . EVEN Jesus said to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and that includes obedience to the laws we don’t like. Romans 13:1–“Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities…”
    EthiopiA ALLOWS “illicit mingling”, IT DONOT MEAN ETHIOPIANS ARE ENTITLED TO PERFORM “illicit mingling”, WORLDWIDE SAME AS JUST BECAUSE ETHIOPIANS ARE PERMITED TO DRIVE/OPERATE VEHICLES WHILE DRUNK WITH NO LIMIT TO THEIR BLOOD ALCOHOL LEVEL IN ETHIOPIA IT DONOT MEAN THEY CAN DRIVE WHILE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL WORLDWIDE.

  18. Assta B. Gettu on

    In Ethiopia, if one writes something contrary to the current government, he will be beaten up, arrested, sent to jail, and, finally, he will be sentenced to death, or he will end up the rest of his life in prison.

    In Saudi Arabia, if one prays to the real Christian God in his own house and the Saudi police discover one is praying to a God, who is not the Muslim-Arab god – the moon-god – Allah – one will be beaten up; his property will be confiscated, and he will be sent to a Qaliti-like jail – the Buraiman jail, one of the worst jails in the world.

    As reported by the Human Right Watch, six Ethiopian Christian men and twenty-nine Ethiopian young Christian women had been praying in their house, shutting their doors behind them as the Holy Bible says: “But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees you what is done in secret, will reward you” (Matthew 6:6). However, their silent prayer to the true God of the universe was suddenly interrupted by the satanic police of the satanic Saudi Arabia kingdom under King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz, the king of all evils on this earth.

    As the article indicates, the Saudi government had promised in 2006 that Saudi Arabia would ‘guarantee and protect the right to private worship for all, including non-Muslims who gather in homes for religious practice….” And this document of promise was sent to the United States as if Saudi Arabia were the protectors of non-Muslim believers. The fact is, however, Saudi Arabia was telling a lie to the world according to its taqiyya rule. When ever Arab Muslims get a chance, they will never keep their promises because their Prophet Muhammad had told them to break their promises or their vows: “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath” (Bukhari:V7B67N427). Also, the Satanic Quran 9:3 says: “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.” Again, confirming the same statement in Quran 9:3, Quran 66:2 states: “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.” In this case, the July 2006 promises or obligations by the Saudi King to grant non-Muslim religious groups freedom of worship are fake promises and fake obligations like the Arab-Muslim fake religion and fake Quran.

    The cruelties of the Arab Muslims had been demonstrated in Libya when some Libyan Arabs sodomized their leader Colonel Muhammad Kaddafi in his agonizing death. The cruelties of the Kaddafi family were also shown when they tortured that lovely Ethiopia girl by burning her tender body with hot water. In the same way, the cruelties of the Saudi king were manifested when he ordered one of his officers to insert her dirty finger into each of the twenty-nine Ethiopian Christian women’s genitalia after she had completed her strip search on each one of those Ethiopian women. Such heinous actions are the quintessential of the highest degree of crimes the Arab Muslims commit every day on their subjugated women and children.

    The crime committed by the Saudi police against these twenty-nine Ethiopian Christian women is the most humiliating and embarrassing rape ever perpetrated not only against these religious Ethiopian women but against all Ethiopians all over the world. Inserting one’s finger into a girl’s genital is not different from inserting one’s penis into a female organ and thereby raping her. In this case, the Saudi officer had raped twenty-nine Ethiopian Christian women held in the Saudi jail. If I were Meles Seitanawi (Zenawi), I will immediately declare war on the Saudi Satanic kingdom because the shame of these innocent Ethiopian women is the shame of all Ethiopians who live in Ethiopia and abroad.

    When King David sent some messengers to the Ammonite king, Hanun, to congratulate him for taking his father’s place as a king, however, Hanun mistreated David’s men by shaving off half of each man’s beard and by cutting off their garments in the middle at the buttock. Hearing what had happened to his men, David ordered the men to stay in Jericho until their beards grew (2nd Samuel 10:5). Later on David declared war against the Amonites and destroyed them. Why did David declare war and destroy the Amonites? Because the Amonites had humiliated David’s men by cutting off their beards and garments, David declared war against the Amonites. Should we Ethiopians also declare war on the Saudis for raping our women and tormenting them in the Buraiman Jail?

    These Ethiopian men and Ethiopian women were charged of two alleged crimes: Praying in their house and mingling with other people outside their homes. It is this type of behaviors most Arab Muslims have toward the Christians, the Jews, the Hindus, and toward many other non-Muslims. To such idiotic Arab Muslims, one should not sell lands, should not export one’s own farm products, and should not send one’s own country’s girls and boys to be raped, sodomized, imprisoned, tortured, and finally deported to the land of their origins. It is to such evil kingdom of Saudi Arabia the United States President, Barack Obama, the most powerful person in the world, bowed his head down in front of the Saudi king and gave homage to the Islamic kingdom, but he never did to the Queen of England what he intentionally did to the Saudi King.

    Even though we are short of resources to assemble a huge army, to buy sophisticated weapons, jets, tanks, war ships, and go and fight the godless Saudis, we are not short of words; therefore, let us denounce and condemn the Saudi Arab Muslims for humiliating our Ethiopian Christian men and Christian women. All non-Muslims in the world must be united to oust the Arab Muslims from wherever they are found, fight them, defeat them, and burry them in one of the great Oceans as the Americans buried the mass murder, Ben laden in the Oceans. For over 1400 years, the Arab Muslims have never contributed to the civilized Christian world; therefore, they should not deserve to live with us who have contributed so many sophisticated technologies to the world. Islam is an accursed religion that allows his adherents to break their promises, to rape small children, to lie to the non- Muslims, and to produce millions of Muslim children to outnumber the non-Muslims.

    As far as the Saudi kingdom continues to govern most of the Islamic world through its abundant oil, there will be no peace, no prosperity, and no tangible progress in this world of ours, so let us fight this satanic kingdom and liberate our non-Muslim brothers and sisters who are languishing in the Saudis Buraiman prison.

  19. Shariif_jijiga on

    Thousands of Ethiopians are languishing in jails everywhere from UKRAINE to BRAZIL, from MALAWI to YEMEN, from NORWAY to Nairobi and libya.. Does anyone need me to continue the list? Yet there are more worse prisons like (ZWAI, KALITI) in Ethiopia then in KSA. Saudi_arabia deports Muslim comunities of Bangladesh, Somali, sudan, egypt. Religeon and HR doesn’t matter to this shekhs and kings and their people answered with ARAB_SPRING. Islam is the religeon of 60 million Ethiopians and we are proud of it.

    • Assta B. Gettu on

      Sharif_jijga #23,

      You are proud of 60 million Ethiopian Muslims who are occupying the land of the indigenous Ethiopian Christians. I don’t think their number is that much high; if so, it will be worrisome and troubling since Islam allows one Muslim man could marry up to four wives and produce more Muslim children every year. I don’t think the country could afford to feed all Ethiopian Muslims who breed like a rabbit with no family planning. This is not fair at all for the Ethiopian Christians in which one Ethiopian Christian man is allowed to marry one wife only. There must be a drastic change in the demography of the Muslim population in Ethiopia. I don’t want to see my Christian country to be like Egypt where the majorities are Muslims who are oppressing, persecuting, and killing the minority Egyptian Coptic Christians. What is happening in Egypt may also happen to the Ethiopian Christians unless the Ethiopian Christians are aware of the impending danger from the growing number of these foreign Muslims from Mecca who have been living in Ethiopia since the seventh century.

    • Amensisa on

      You stupid! Are you on drugs? We christeans should have the right to build churchs in Saudi Arabia or Saudi Arabians should not have the right to go to mosque in Ethiopia. Muslims in Ethiopia are less than 30 million.

  20. Assta B. Gettu on

    As I was reading this afternoon nazret.com, I came across the following comment by Gragn Ahmed:

    “Comment from: Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]
    This news can only be recycled by Elias Kifle, the Eritrean review guy who hates every thing Arab. We Ethiopians have Arab origin and will always love Arabs. If those Ethiopians are Saudi Citizens, then there will be the Law to protect them. If they are caught boiling tella then that is a no no. Any religion which promotes evil like drinking should not be called a religion any where in the world. Hence, orthodox is not a religion at all in which the priests enjoy this soothing drug.

    I hope they will not ask for Harar bera to come to Saudi.”
    02/01/12 @ 19:31

    After I completed reading Gragn Ahmed’s unbalanced comment, I posted my response to his comment on nazret.com:

    Gragn Ahmed, defender of the Saudi kingdom and enemy of the Ethiopian Christian dominion, (visitor):

    Elias Kifle loves everybody, even his enemies who sentenced him to life imprisonment; Elias Kifle has contributed thousands and upon thousands of articles and comments to bring change in Ethiopia and finally to liberate Ethiopia from the oppressive Woyanne regime. Elias Kifle is not an Eritrean: he is a pure Ethiopian who has a fascinating history that goes back to the well-educated member of his family – Ato Kebede Mikael and Ato Seifu; Elias Kifle is indeed a vey proud Ethiopian, and he has never said he hates the Arabs. He has no time to hate people but to love them as they are. As a peerless journalist, Elias Kifle has been a hard working person who tried to bring peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea. What have you done for your Ethiopian Muslims except to incite them to burn Christian Churches and to confiscate their properties? The only thing you know is to sit on your bed in the middle of the day and consume a huge amount of chat like the Janamora goats.

    There is no law in Saudi Arabia that protects non-Muslims such as the Christians, the Jews, the Hindus, and the other kafirs. The only law the Saudis have is the Sharia law that maims human bodies for a peccadillo, and the Sharia law is incompatible with the Christian law that respects the dignity of a woman, the innocence of a child like a little girl Aisha whom the 54-year-old Muhammad raped when she was just 9 years old.

    Drinking the home-made Korefie, Areki, Tej, and eating Difdif is healthier than drinking the camel urine that Arab Muslims always drink by mixing it with their coffee every morning. Your womanizing Muhammad the prophet may have ordered you not to drink wine, tela, Areki or Tej, but he has never prevented you from shedding the blood of innocent Christians, Jews, Hindus, and many other non-Muslims. He has never prohibited you from raping little girls and boys and from sodomizing their mothers and fathers. He may have ordered you never to touch or taste any wine on this earth but he had allowed you to drink a lot of wine in paradise and rape the 72 virgin girls in paradise. Quran 47:15 describes Muhammad’s false paradise this way: “The description of Paradise which the Muttaqun have been promised (is that) in it are rivers of water the taste and smell of which are not changed, rivers of milk of which the taste never changes, rivers of wine delicious to those who drink, and rivers of clarified honey….” Quran 78:33-34 further says: “And young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age and a full cup of wine” will be given to the true Jihadists.

    You wrote, perhaps, unconsciously: “Any religion which promotes evil like drinking should not be called a religion any where in the world.”

    Is there any other religion that enhances more evil, more hostility, more destruction of life and property, and more confusion and chaos in the entire world than Islam? And still such a violent Islam is regarded as a religion of peace by billions of misguided Arab Muslims the world over? The main tenet of Islam is: “I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore, smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes” (Quran 8:12). And if some believers in Islam convert to another religion, they will be immediately killed. Quran 4:90 says: “If they turn back from Islam, becoming renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.”

    You further stated: “…orthodox is not a religion at all in which the priests enjoy this soothing drug.” What about the Arab Muslim imams and sheks who use day in and day out the depressant chat, a drug that enervates the immune systems of a body? Therefore, Islam that exacts its services from such druggist Muslim imams and mullahs should not be regarded as a religion but as witchcraft’s art of deception and mockery.

  21. Assta B. Gettu on

    Lubaba #20,

    It is good you hate Islam because Islam is not a true religion: it is a cult based on the satanic Quran and Hadith. It is a fiction, a false story of Muhammad the false prophet.

    You are absolutely right Christianity is the true religion, and you are also correct your Muslim parents may harm you if you change your religion; however, the God of the Christians, Jesus Christ, is able to protect you from any harm that comes in your way. Therefore, I advise you to leave Islam and join Christianity as soon as you can, and the Almighty God will be with you and guide you through the right way, and that right way is Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God.

  22. Gragn Ahmed on

    As far as my other comments I dont know what happened. You should be glad Arabs did not wage any jihad on Ethiopia. Otherwise what we call coptic Ethiopia will not exist. As far as Ethiopians worshiping their belief as far as they are not selling or drinking alcohol or protstitution or mixing with other sexes. As a believer of rights, there are certain rights any country is entitled too. So Alcohol is not one of those rights to me. You may disagree with me but it is source of evil. So any christian outside of mecaa and Medina may have a right to worship. Other than that dont ask me this question again. I would have seen the egomaniac Elias posting about the plight of the valiant Axumite Muslims denied of the right even to bury. So considering this fact I have no sympathy for Ethiopian christians at all. Ethiopian christians never ever accepted Islam as Ethiopian, they always treated us as Saudis. So unless they compensate for those crimes of 1400 years I ask the Saudi Embassy not to entertain such rif raff prostitutes organizing events for political gain. These people are bent on destroying the sanctity of Saudi. They have no intention of being loyal citizens. The last thing I expect from a christian Ethiopian is being reasonable people. They are never so, they drink coffee as your neighbors and back bite you. So barbaric people.

    As to Assta, you are Eritrean like your Elias Kifle. Elias is a cyber warrior who never went outside of his coffee house to fight any body. Like him Assta is trying to depreciate muslims and Islam as usual he is learning from his forefathers who claim they are the only ones for Shumet.

    But believe me, Muslims are coming and I will see where you will be hiding. Even deporting christians to Ethiopia may not be a possibility if Ethiopia becomes Islamic. All the coffee, oil, and expensive minerals originate from Muslim Ethiopia and your pocket is full of cash and yet come here to spit your trashy words.

    Assta you by each day are becoming like a pest. Copts know only how to be good protsitutes, how to sell tella and get drunk. What they brought us is 3000 years of misery and shame. We dont need you get off our back. This fake coptic religion is such a useless thing. This coward Elias will once again deny my freedom of free press by cuting my post. You are a hypocrite.

    I suggest the christian Ethiopians be sent to Israel.

  23. Gragn Ahmed on

    As far as my other comments, Elias I don’t know what happened he sent them to Sawa. You copts should be glad Arabs did not wage any jihad on Ethiopia. Otherwise, what we call coptic Ethiopia would not have existed. As far as Ethiopians worshiping their belief, well only if they are not selling or drinking alcohol or prostitution or mixing with other sexes. As a believer of rights, there are certain rights any country is entitled to. So Alcohol is not one of those rights to me. You may disagree with me but it is source of evil.

    The egomaniac Elias never posted about the plight of the valiant Axumite Muslims who are denied of the right to even bury their relatives upon death. So considering this fact, I have no sympathy for Ethiopian christians at all. Ethiopian christians never ever accepted Islam as Ethiopian, they always treated us as Saudis. So unless they compensate for those crimes of 1400 years I ask the Saudi Embassy not to entertain such rif raff prostitutes organizing events for political gain. These people are bent on destroying the sanctity of Saudi. They have no intention of being loyal citizens. The last thing I expect from a christian Ethiopian is being reasonable people. They are never so, they drink coffee as your neighbors and back bite you. So barbaric people.

    As to Assta, you are Eritrean like your friend Elias Kifle. Elias is a cyber warrior who never went outside of his coffee house to fight any body. Like him Assta is trying to depreciate Muslims and Islam as usual he is acting like his forefathers who claim they are the only ones for Shumet.

    But believe me, Muslims are coming and I will see where you will be hiding. Even deporting christians to Ethiopia may not be a possibility if Ethiopia becomes Islamic. All the coffee, oil, and expensive minerals originate from Muslim Ethiopia and your pocket is full of cash and yet come here to spit your trash words.

    Assta, you by eachday are becoming like a pest. Copts know only how to be good prostitutes, how to sell tella and get drunk. What they brought us is 3000 years of misery and shame. We don’t need you and get off our back. This fake coptic religion is such a useless thing. This coward Elias will once again deny my freedom of free press by cutting my post. You are a hypocrite.

    I suggest the christian Ethiopians be sent to Israel.

    • Anonymous on

      Gragn Ahmed,
      It is more than obvious that you’re not a Muslim. Actually, you’re a woyane puppet who is assigned to create religious disagreement to divide Ethiopians, that way, the rest of TPLF thugs and your idle Tota Meles can go on looting the country. It is a waste of time for people like Asta Getu to take their valuable time to argue with you. Woyanes, come as Muslims, Christians, Amharas, Eritreans, Gurages, Oromos, Kembatas, Somali Ethiopians…just to divide Ethiopians and take the focus on the leba TPLF. Be alert Ethiopians! Focus on the common Enemies of Ethiopians–woyanes!

    • Assta B. Gettu on

      Gragn Ahmed #27,

      Arab Muslims have never stopped dreaming to take the Christian land of Ethiopia by force but they know how strong, determined, and resolute the Christian mind is, and for that reason they will never attempt to attack Ethiopia, and if they do they know what happened to their member of their faith, Gragn Muhammad, will happen to them, and they know what happened to the Italians at Adwa will happen to them.

      The Jihadist Somalis have attempted more than once to terrorize Ethiopia but they were crashed, and as the result of the heavy blow that fell upon them, they have still unstable government, and the Ethiopian Christian kingdom is as strong as ever, and the timid Arab Muslims have no chance to invade Ethiopia and spread their Islamization in that Christian land of Ethiopia.

      The Ethiopian Christians can do anything they want in their Christian land of Ethiopia: they can drink as much tela as they want to drink: they can eat as much kitfo as they want to eat; they can farm as many lands as they can. The South that produces coffee and gold belongs to the Ethiopian Christians, not to the Muslims in Ethiopia. The Muslims in Ethiopia are guests and do not have the right to own the gold and the coffee products of the Southern Ethiopian Christian regions. If the Muslims in Ethiopia have a desire to possess a land, a coffee farm, and a gold mine, they must return to the land of their origin – Mecca, the barren land.

      The Axumite Christians have the right to deny or to grant a piece of burial place to the handful Muslims who live there as new comers and who worship the moon-god, allah. They can bury their dead on a plot they have bought but never be allowed to bury their loved ones in the holy city of Axum. You must also know the Ethiopian Christians have exclusive rights never to recognize Islam as a true religion, which is not and has never been.

      Whatever crimes the Ethiopian Christians may have committed against the Muslims in Ethiopia, they are not accountable for the crimes they may have unintentionally perpetrated and they should not pay indemnities for the gust Ethiopian Muslims. In fact, the Ethiopian Muslims should pay the Ethiopian Christians for allowing them to stay freely in the Christian land of Ethiopia for 1400 years.

      The Ethiopian Christians have always been reasonable people who worship the true God, Jesus Christ, but Arab Muslims have always been unreasonable people who pay homage to the moon-god, allah, the name of an idle.

      To be an Eritrean is an honor, not a curse because Eritreans are Ethiopians and Ethiopians are Eritreans, but to be a Muslim is a disgrace because Islam is the religion of Arabs and Arabs have committed atrocious crimes against many black Africans and especially against many Ethiopian maidens.

      From Muhammad the pedophiliac prophet up to the present generation, all Arab Muslims have been sexually abusing minors in millions and subjugating their women. In one Muslim-Arab house, it is not strange to find 7 or ten prostitute women held without their wills, and in the same house one can find at least 20 or 25 children. Some of these children are sexually abused by their dirty Arab-Muslim father. Most of the time, Arab Muslims do not have sex with their harems the normal way normal Christian will have with their wives. Arab Muslims like to sodomize their wives and their children, and that is why the civilized world calls Arab Muslims the dirtiest people in the world.

      Before the Cold War started, some Americans used to say: “The Russian are coming, the Russians are coming.” In the same way, Gragn Ahmed is telling me the Muslims are coming and I will have no place to hide. By nature, Ethiopians don’t run and hide when they see their enemies are advancing toward them. They firmly hold their ground and fight their enemies impressively and defeat them. That is what happened when Gragn Muhammad came with multitude of Turkish mercenary armies and with thousands of Somalis and Ethiopian Muslims to attack the Ethiopian Christians, but the Ethiopian Christians never retreated. They fought hard and destroyed the entire Gragn army and killed the Muslim leader, Gragn Muhammad. Ethiopian Christians have never been scared of defending their Christian country from the barbarian Arab Muslims who many times tried to wage war against Ethiopia, the island of Christianity.

      For sure, the Ethiopian Muslims have been a great burden to the Ethiopian Christians all these years, betraying the Ethiopian Christians during war time and peace time: they are now leaning toward waging war against the Ethiopian Christian kingdom by secretly allying themselves with some Islamic countries such as Sudan, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, and Lebanon. But, thank God, we can easily frustrate their propensity to invade Ethiopian. If war breaks out between the Christian Ethiopia and the Ethiopian Muslims, Gragn Ahmed will be the first person to flee Ethiopia and seek shelter somewhere in Sudan.

      • gragn ahmed on

        To Assta and Elias promoters of hate speech,

        I have the record and if you don’t publish this I will keep it as exhibit to your biased hate promoting journalism. This is posted on February 4, 2012 at 1245 pm.

        I am not fleeing any where. Ethiopian Muslims stayed there when they were forced to leave by Atse Yohannes and many Kings and Emperors. Muslim Ethiopians are gallant not cowards. Given enough support I am sure they will chase you out one day. Muslim Ethiopians have never submitted to the christian copts easily. All the wars now taking place to this day are in Muslim areas. Somalis, Afars and Oromo Muslims are rising up all the time and no doubt they will come around this time if it was not for West interference. Somalis who are only 6 million have burnt the Amhara dominated and coptic Kingdom since Ahmed Gragn so did the Afars and now the Oromos.

        We Ethiopian Muslims have respected you and have given you more loaylty than you deserve even though you treat us as foreign agents and Saudi loyals. Let there be no doubt that we love our neighbors more than those copts who refuse us citizenship just because we are Islamic.

        The people of Ethiopian christians I better not call them are such arrogant people that they should be evicted out for treating their own folks as people of their own. Elias and Assta are colleagues who fight for christian immigrant Ethiopians rather than about Axumite Muslims of their own people in blood.

        I never seen any news on this coptic websites about the suffering of Muslim Axums. This is the only case in the world where people are denied the right to bury. I am sure the church of Axum will be demolished one day.

        Our Muslim Ethiopians are Ethiopians who lived there and fed their own people and even fed the christian hodams and beggars. How come you call us parasites?? Christians are the parasites of Ethiopia.

        As to our becoming guests, we are not guests. We are Ethiopians. Islam arrived in two ways in Ethiopia. One through Axum and one through Zeila or Harar.

        The one in Axum was aborted thanks to the priests of Axum. Since day one the Muslims of Axum were excluded from the life of the palace in Axum. Even King Negash was isolated and he died that way. He was unable to change the priests.

        Saudis should not allow any worship in that area because Saudi is not for Saudis as far as worshiping is concerned. Our Book Quran says no christians allowed in that Kingdom or Mecca and Medina.

        So don’t try to change our scripture. But Axum is not a holy place and the Ark of Convenant is fake thing. So why should be respect Axum as such? There is no reason to do that.

        There is no unreasonable people as coptic christians. They refuse to accept their own people as citizens. This is international disgrace. I even am ashamed this happens. Is there no Men in Axum who are Muslims? How can they let this happen when their baby dies they have to leave and bury him somewhere?

        To Assta, Atse Yohannes is reasonable? Menelik II who cut young women breasts because he found it lustful is reasonable? Haileselassie who says he is king of copts is reasonable? He called it the Island of christianity is reasonable? The criminal Meles who kisses a cross openly never considers Islam as official religion is reasonable? The naming of streets and hospital as Meskel Adebabay, nazret, Paulos, Kidist Mariam is reasonable?

        The illegal government who refuses to acknowledge Muslims are University students and can not pray in mass is reasonable? Who denies the wearing of hijab is unreasonable?

        Lubaba is such unreasonable person who wants dancing and not worshiping as a good thing. If you love dancing choose christianity. If you love God choose Islam. Islam has one God but not christianity which is three gods love.

  24. Assta B. Gettu on

    Gragn Ahmed’s comment on nazret.com:

    “Gragn Ahmed [Visitor]

    Matt. 10:37 “Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;
    38 and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
    39
    Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

    verse 10:39 is indeed the Mathew Jihad for Jesus in Christianity. What evil is there more than the evil of Mathew 10:39 that purely permits suicide mission????

    Don’t tell us love in one verse and contradict us Mathew the fake debtera. Jesus will never say this contradictory words.

    But Mathew is the first author of suicide mission.

    This is not even Jihad, this is suicide mission which is to terrorize innocent Muslims.

    Whereas Muslims say Islam is the religion of peace, and say Asalam when they meet you and pray every day asking for peace.

    It is only the christians who always hate love seeking Muslims.

    If indeed christianity preaches love, why we see colonial christian missionaries spying on other gullible poor African indigenous people and some christian copts???

    Why we see slavery to such inhumane degree to such brutal extent of treatment of human life exposing them to scorching deserts of the USA to collect cotton? Why the blacks were lynched as animals, hanged upside down and gated in prisons for a black is considered as unable to control his anger?? Many many unbelievable stories of this barbaric crime were done to human beings on a christian land and on permission of christian Popes.

    No such thing will be encountered in Islamic land.

    We Muslims including the Sudanese people hosted you christians and allowed you to get your visa and enjoyed our land and water including the present Meles and Esayas. But you claim now you are mistreated. What a mockery copts are!!! They never stop attacking Islam.

    I wish they disappear from the face of the earth with their fake religion. Don’t you have manners? You never worship Jesus because if you did you will not act like this. You would have acted like the true follower of Jesus King Ashama who wept upon hearing the story of Meriem by the immigrant Sahaaba of our beloved Prophet Mohammed.

    Thanks for belittling our religion. While your Paul was such a big time liar. while Mathew or Lukas were fake priests, you claim Bible to be from God. Only Satan can instruct these people to fake God and worship a defecating human being and a helpless creature like Jesus. If there is any person who lied big time it was Paul and followers of christianity.

    We are doomed if we follow copts.

    I should not even visit this website as Ethiopian. If this website was Ethiopian why they would the people of Axum never get any attention at all???

    I know Ethiopia is only for copts.

    That is why. Forget it.

    Assta B. Gettu’s response to Gragn’s comment:”

    Gragn Ahmed,

    What does Matthew 10:37-39 has to do with a suicide mission, the every-day mission of the Arab-Muslim world in order to enter Muhammad’s false paradise and have love with the Huris (fair females) with wide lovely eyes? Are you telling the world your suicide mission to blow up hotels, motels, Churches, and the human lives disproportionally is scriptural so that you want to continue your Jihadist mission – beheading Christians, Jews, Hindus and the entire non-Muslims?

    The Gospel of Matthew has never advocated the killings of innocent people but your satanic Quran has when it says “find them, fight them until no more non-believers are left, catch them, drive them out and slay them” (Quran 2:191; 8:39). On the other hand, the Gospel of Matthew says: “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God” (5:9).

    You are not revealing the truth when you say “Islam is the religion of peace”; in fact, Islam has never been and will never be the religion of peace because its founder Muhammad the false prophet was a violent man, and his violence had been attested even by his own child wife, Aisha, who said: “He (Muhammad) struck me on the chest which caused me pain” (Muslim 4:2127). Not to mention the agonies and pains of the Yathrib Jewish tribe who were mercilessly slaughtered by the merciless Muhammad the Prophet in 627 AD in which 900 mail Jews were beheaded, and no one forgets the massacres of millions of Christians and Hindus and many other non-Muslims all over the world by the adherents of the blood-thirsty Muhammad the false prophet.

    Indeed, it was by their swords the Arab Muslims conquered Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Jordan, Turkey, North Africa, and the rest of the world: they have never achieved a piece of land by peaceful means. They tried to conquer Ethiopia using that Jihadist Gragn Muhammad, but they miserably failed to accomplish their goals – to convert the Ethiopian Christians to their cultish religion – Islam.

    Islam cannot be a religion of peace since Muhammad received Islam from the devil at the cave of Mt. Hira in Mecca in the darkness of the night. It was in this dark cave that “magic was worked on Muhammad and he was bewitched so that he began to imagine doing things which in fact, he had not done” (Bukhari: V7B71N661), and it was in this gloomy and dark cave that Satan had cast on Muhammad’s tongue the famous satanic words: “I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken” (Tabari VI: 110). It was in this lonely cave Muhammad declared: “I am the best of plotter. I deceived them (the Christians, the Jews, and the other non-believers) with my guile so that I delivered you from them” (Ishaq: 323). It was in this isolated cave Muhammad learned to hate Christians, Jews, Hindus, and others and commanded his followers: “Believers! Take not into your intimacy those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, and Christians” (Quran 3:118). It was in this frightening cave Muhammad learned everything evil from Satan, such as the Sharia law, the sexual abuse of children, the enslaving of women, the conquering of someone’s territory by force, and the plagiarizing of the Christian and the Jewish Holy Bible and there by creating a false document called Quran or Hadith. And finally it was in the dwelling place of Satan, Mt. Hira, that Muhammad learned the art of terrorism: “Soon we shall strike terror into the hearts of the infidels, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which he had sent no authority: their abode will be in the Fire!” (Quran 3:150)

    You stated Muslims pray five times every day, asking for peace; I wish it were true, but it is not. The history of Muslims’ prayer in their Mosque is absolutely different from their history of meeting and greeting a person on the street. On the street they look innocent, gentle, humble with a smiling face but inside their hearts there is that poisonous thought they have received from their imams who teaches every Friday how to cheat, how to lie to, and how to finally kill the infidels (the Jews and the Christians) and take their lands and build Islamic Mosques on the properties of the Jews and the Christians, because the imams have already warned them not to be friends to the Jews and the Christians, Arab Muslims will never rest from plotting to kill Jews and Christians; therefore, Muslims never pray for peace. One cannot find a simple statement in the Quran or Hadith that tells us Muslims will pray for their enemies; however, one can find in the Christian Bible that says: “ But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! (Matthew 5:44)

    But one can easily find in the Satanic Quran a hatred message such as: “Say unto them (the Christians and the Jews): ‘Perish in your rage’” (Quran 3:118). Again Quran 33:25 sates to the Muslims: “Allah terrorized the people of the Book (the Christians and the Jews) so that you killed some and made many captive.”

    No, the Bible is not a fake book like your Quran or Hadith: the Bible is the word of God: “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness….” (2nd Timothy 3:16)

    However, the Quran is a collection of lies from Muhammad, one of the false prophets who prophesied lies as Jeremiah one of the true prophets declared: “Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds” (14:14). In the same way, Muhammad had never been sent by God as a prophet to teach the word of God, but he was sent by Satan to preach the words of Satan. What are the words of Satan? They are false visions, divinations, idolatries and delusions of one’s own mind. Was there any other prophet more deluded than Muhammad the false prophet? None at all!

    Slavery has been practiced mostly by the Arab Muslims till this day: the Arabs are still buying and selling black Sudanese and killing them if they tried to escape. It happened to the Darfur Black Sudanese by the Sudanese Janjaweed Arab Muslims. Muhammad himself was the owner of many Christian and Jewish women as his slaves and at the same time he used or abused them as his sex objects.

    Gragn Ahmed, I am sure, you are one of the members of the Sudanese Janjaweed Arabs, ready to destroy the Ethiopian Christians, their Churches, their monasteries, their holy books, and their Christian values. You are absolutely right Ethiopia is for the indigenous Ethiopian Christians. Islam, as a foreign product, has no place in Ethiopia, and has no value for the majority of the Ethiopian people, especially for the Ethiopian Christian highlanders. I strongly advise you to take your Islam with you and settle in Somalia or in Sudan or in Egypt or in Saudi Arabia; the problem is, however, you will not be accepted in those Arab-Muslim countries, and you will not be either allowed to live in the Christian land of Ethiopia. You better apply to the United Nations for a refugee status to live in any other Arab-Muslim countries. Do it today and leave Ethiopia for the true Ethiopian citizens!

  25. Gragn Ahmed on

    No one will believe Quraan is a lie. But we believe Bible is the hand of human beings and is the work of Paul, one of the biggest liar that the planet has seen.

    If there is a lie Bible and Paul have no one to match them.

    At any rate, I hate to read your comment because you are not a man of economy of words, Why you have to flood all websites with your useless and repetitive comments again and again. I am appalled you teaching English to young college kids. They must be bored to death with your teaching and writing skills.

    You are no better than a high school drop out. Next time you please write your comments short so I can read them.

    First, let us agree on one God. Then you will tell me how Islam is not a religion. But your mental ability is challenged. So I don’t think you will do that. Quraan has been proven to be miraculous as you may know or may not know as suggested by the French Maurice Buccaile. Also Ahmed Deedat pamphlets can teach you lessons.

    I am not here to talk about the tabot enchet that you guys worship. Don’t tell me you have a religion. Your religion is not better than the pagans of

  26. tigist on

    you are so stupid! you are talking about some one English writing skill. who are you first of all? I can guess that you are Islam, ” the devil’s religion.” you have noting except your stupid faith of devil, who can a individual , a criminal, rapist(even underage kids) that is Mohameed can be a prophet? Shame on you! the good thing is Muslim will be wept of the earth by killing each others, the natural resources of the Arab which is petroleum is depleting, we will see more violent and killing in your stupid Muslim country.

  27. Assta B. Gettu on

    Gragn Ahmed #29,

    One can believe you are still in your mother’s womb that you have miserably failed to identify facts from opinions: the Holy Bible is full of facts, but the Quran is full of opinions, one person’s opinions – the false prophet Muhammad’s fabrication of ideas out of the blue. When the Holy Bible says Jesus is the Son of God; it is a fact: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life” (John 3:16). When the Holy Bible says “Pray for your enemies,” it is a fact Jesus prayed for those who were abusing him: “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing” (Luke 23:34). When the Holy Bible says God is merciful, it is a fact: Jesus said to the adulterous woman brought to him: “Woman, where are they (your accusers)? Has no one condemned you? No one, Sir”, she said. Then Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you.
    Go now and leave your life of sin” (John 8:10-11).

    On the other hand, when Quran says, “Those who reject Islamic faith, Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to any path except the way to Hell, to dwell therein forever….” (Quran 4:168), it is an opinion, not a fact. When Quran says, “Believers, truly the pagan disbelievers are unclean,” it is an opinion, not a fact. When Quran says, “But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you” (Quran 2:64), it is an opinion, not a fact. Jews are intelligent human beings, not apes.

    Therefore, I have the privilege to inundate every legitimate website like the Ethiopian Review website with tangible facts while you may not have the right to waste the readers’ precious time by scribbling fictions you have learned from your prophet Muhammad, the father of lies, violence, deceptions, shenanigans, rape, and obstructions of justice. I write my comments to the highly educated ones, not to you who cannot read a one-page comment because you are always “on high” from the chat you consume lavishly without understanding the permanent damage chat gives to the chat lovers like you.

    I advise you to learn to read fast and to comprehend what you have read; it is not too late to go to a reading school called a “remedial school,” so that you can improve your deficient skills in reading and understanding the English words. When I write my comments, I write them not only to you but to all who have interest in reading them; if my comments have given you some kind of dizziness, stomach ache, bowel movement, and a severe headache, disregard them, and don’t read them. I am still hoping one day you will join Christianity and have freedom from the oppressive Islamic faith and its Sharia law.

    You are a delusional person, and I do not agree with your one god doctrine because your god is one of the 360 idols worshiped by the citizens of Mecca; however, my God is the true God, Jesus Christ, but you do not recognize him that he is the creator of the universe and the savior of the world. Your moon-god allah cannot forgive sins or save his people – the Muslims and the Arabs from their sins.

    I am more than happy to tell you Islam is not a religion at all because its founder Muhammad used it for its political purposes, for abusing sexually and mercilessly subjugating women as his properties, and for forcing others to believe in Islam, a political system. Besides, there is no freedom in Islam. For example, if a person leaves Islam and joins another religion of his liking, Islam commands its followers to murder that person. Islam ridicules Christians, Jews, Hindus, and many other non-Muslims. Almost all religions, except Islam, have the Confucius’s Golden Rule: “Do not do unto others what you would not want others to do unto you.” Therefore, Islam is not a religion, and those who believe in Islam are not religious people; they are warriors, ready to conquer the whole world and force the inhabitants of this earth to submit to the moon-god, allah.

    I am absolutely right in calling you a confused person, for nobody asked you to talk about tabot. I have written in detail about tabot and the Ark of the Covenant. You may ask Elias Kifle to give you my article or comment about the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church thilat, which you called tabot, the replica of the ancient Ark of the Covenant Bezalel made (Exodus 37:1-9).

    From now on, I am going to follow the advice of “Anonymous,
    February 3rd, 2012 at 4:57 PM
    Gragn Ahmed
    It is more than obvious that you’re not a Muslim. Actually, you’re a woyane puppet who is assigned to create religious disagreement to divide Ethiopians, that way, the rest of TPLF thugs and your idle Tota Meles can go on looting the country. It is a waste of time for people like Asta Getu to take their valuable time to argue with you. Woyanes, come as Muslims, Christians, Amharas, Eritreans, Gurages, Oromos, Kembatas, Somali Ethiopians…just to divide Ethiopians and take the focus on the leba TPLF. Be alert Ethiopians! Focus on the common Enemies of Ethiopians–woyanes!”

  28. Anonymous on

    Hello,

    I hope this email finds you well & happy. I am just asking you favor if you post my petition request on your site to get more signature. The petition is about the Statue of Emperor Haile Selassie (HIM) on the AU building. I’m not monarchist or supporter but I believe in our factual history that we inherit as Ethiopians. I know there were others that contributed to League of Nations & African Union Organization but among them was HIM. Thanks for your cooperation in advance :)
    http://www.change.org/petitions/a-statue-for-emporer-haile-selassie

    Best Regards,

    Almaz Mequanint, RSC

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